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Pimp Gimp
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Trick Yourself Into a PR
OK, as many of us know, mental blocks happen. Maybe you can bench 225 for 6 reps but you can't get 235 at all. Obviously you have the strength but your block is mental. Here's a little trick to fool your CNS a bit and help you break out a new PR.
Get a couple of basic warmup sets in. (REALLY light, 2 sets of 10 maybe) Immediately follow this up with your PR. Hit it. Drop 40 pounds and do 6 reps. Reload the bar, this time go 5 pounds OVER your PR. Hit it. Drop 40 pounds and do 6 reps. Reload the bar with 5 pounds more than your NEW PR. Hit it. Here's why this works. Your CNS will notice the extreme jump to your PR and go into something like a panic mode. This will carryover into that set of 6. (Trust me, you'll hit 6 reps and feel like it was nothing.) At this point your CNS has become quite confused. What the hell are you trying to do, anyways? You've just given yourself the means to break that mental block. Your CNS will be too confused to hinder you. Give it a shot, let me know how it works for you guys and gals. |
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another tip when going for a PR is to not load the bar yourself. have your spotter, partner etc. do it. loading the bar for yourself can have a negative effect on your psyche...
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Patrick
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Join Date: Dec 2002
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Isn't that called wave loading?
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Filthy Animal
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Finally back in New England!!
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But when you disarm them, you at once offend them by showing that you distrust them, either for cowardice or for want of loyalty, and either of these opinions breeds hatred against you.
-N. Machiavelli |
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Filthy Animal
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Finally back in New England!!
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I read a pretty good article on this recently. I'll see if I can find it.
Edit: I can never find anything twice! I believe Poliquin developed Wave Loading. ![]() |
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But when you disarm them, you at once offend them by showing that you distrust them, either for cowardice or for want of loyalty, and either of these opinions breeds hatred against you.
-N. Machiavelli |
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Hey Saturday Fever I just wanna get this thing rite b4 i try it. my PR bench press at the moment is a single 45 pound plate on each side of the bench. I have been stuck on that for like 2 weeks now. So today when I go to my gym I should first start of with say 25 pounds on each side and do 2 sets of 10 reps. Then immediatly after that load it upto 45 and do like 6-7 of that then immediatly drop to 5 pounds and do 6 of that. After this how long of a rest should I take before reloading the bar with 50 pounds on each side? Plus when I am benching the 5 pounders should I do it at a fast speed or a slow speed?
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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sounds like a plan to me ... but just one confusion .. i know this will sound dumb but when you said:
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2 Samuel 24:24
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He should NOT warm up with 135 if that's his max, 135 should be his first set after a warm up set or two according to Saturday's routine listed above.
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"I don't like small cars or real big women, but somehow I always find myself in 'em" - KR
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Your right about having your partner load the bar, but for me I love slidding those plates on, the sound and feel of it psyches me up and gets me ready to blow out my 1 rep max. But if I thought too much about the actual number it would F' up my concentration. If I start thinking "damn I've never got 305 before" then I wouldn't get it. That's why get psyched, load it and jump right on the bench and do it before I think about it.
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"I don't like small cars or real big women, but somehow I always find myself in 'em" - KR
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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I am kinda new at this so can someone please explain it to me how doing just 1 rep of my PR is any good for me? PLus can someone please answer the other two questions from my last post.
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Pimp Gimp
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When I employed this idea, I would rest just long enough for my brother to do his set, then I'd jump back in.
I would only do this "every so often." When you hit a plateau, do this. Like anything, your CNS will have no problem getting adjusted to what you're doing if you keep doing it. As far as how it will benefit you, weightlifting is about progress. Why go to the gym if you never get bigger or never get stronger? |
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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no i know lifting heavier makes you big and stronger .. iwas just wondering that for some weight to be effective shouldn't one be doing 5-6 reps .. so how is 1 rep of a heavy weight gonna help me out?
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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just one last question ... in your stats you have bench 360 pounds .. is that ur 1 rep max thingy?
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Pimp Gimp
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Yes, though I recently benched over 370 in the gym. My squat in the gym has also recently hit 555. I do not use this method, however. I did as a beginner, but the principle is still very sound if you lift using a "bodybuilding" type split.
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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man that's some massive stats .. hats off to you ...
just one thing to confirm ... as you said that i shuld do 1 rep of 135 then go down to 95 and do 6 reps of that .. after that should i take a break or rite away move to 140 and so on? |
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jersey's here
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so its like a dropset in a way?
my max is around 215.. so i would... bench 215 drop 40 pounds (takes about 20 seconds my guess) bench 175 up to 6 times ... put on 45 pounds (takes around 25 seconds my guess) bench 220 drop 40 pounds bench 180 up to 6 times... and then once more... or should their be a 2 minute break between each of the three sets? |
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somehow trying to get the abs but bulk at the same time.......
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i work at 85-95 at the moment noramlly hittin 8-4 reps depending on the weight, struggling to get my reps up on 95 so i can move on to the elusive 100kg (which is 2x20kg on each side equivilent to your 2x45lbs i think), so that would be a nice weight to work at, for me shuld i do something like this...?
1x100 6x80 rest 1x102.5 6x82.5 rest 1x105 6x85 done then the next week i can try n' push out 3-4 on the 100? then i've progressed on to a heavier weight, that sound good to you SNF? holla bacc bro |
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but this has gone off track!
You stated above about a mental block You said exe: You do 225x6, but you dont think you can do 235 for 1... obviously you can, but its just a mental block what yall have gotten into is actually going past your strength limits.... its different...go back and read the original post... On a side note: this routine will be great for me SF cuz i always do enough to hit say 200lbs on the charts, like 165x6 but then when i try 200 i only get half way.... |
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: New York
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I incorporated this into my training today, and it really worked. I couldn't believe it. Normally my last set on bench press I can barely squeeze out 5 reps, the same weight that last set on every bench workout, if I try to go just 5 pounds heavier I fail at 3 reps. With this formular I actually increased my bench 15 pounds and hit 4 reps for 2 sets with the 15 pound increase.I can't wait for my next chest workout. Saturday Fever you are the man..
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Pimp Gimp
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Awesome! Give it try again in 2-3 weeks (actually after 2-3 bench days) and let's see what you can do. I'm really glad you got a boost from it. I'm anxious to see where your bench goes from here.
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yay.
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