Empty Stomach Cardio

Jill · 07-29-2004, 11:22 AM

What is the recommended max amount of time to do cardio on an empty stomach?

SPIKE1257 · 07-29-2004, 11:57 AM

I never go more then 30 mins. Usually 25 mins, and always have water.

Jill · 07-29-2004, 12:02 PM

45 mins too much??

SPIKE1257 · 07-29-2004, 12:21 PM

I wouldn't go that long. Don't need to.

atherjen · 07-29-2004, 12:23 PM

30mins is long enough. is it steady state or intervals?

**Prince** · 07-29-2004, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jill

45 mins too much??

I would never do 45mins of cardio, typical for me is 20mins HIIT.

LAM · 07-29-2004, 01:15 PM

I would never exercise on a completly empty stomach. at least take some glutamine and BCAA's to reduce catabolism...

BoneCrusher · 07-29-2004, 01:50 PM

Catabolism? Uhh .. whas dat?

**CowPimp** · 07-29-2004, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAM

I would never exercise on a completly empty stomach. at least take some glutamine and BCAA's to reduce catabolism...

Good advice.

Beyond that, there is no need to go for 45 minutes. 30 minutes should be plenty on a totally empty stomach. If you really want to do more cardio, then you should consider doing a second session of 15-20 minutes of HIIT cardio later in the day.

Another time to consider doing cardio is immediately proceeding a weight training session. The effects should be similar to those of doing cardio first thing in the morning.

atherjen · 07-29-2004, 05:16 PM

Quote:

would never do 45mins of cardio, typical for me is 20mins HIIT.

same here. Id reccomend HIIT over moderate longer cardio anyday.

Ok think of it this way.... you have 2 pots of water that need heated.
Pot #1- you put it on a medium heat to slowly heat up.
Pot#2- you put it on high heat and it comes to a rapid boil much quicker.
.... then you let these cool. Which one cools off the fastest?
answer: Pot # 1.

moral of story. compare to metabolism. In less time pot # 2 came to a boil. The after effect is that it takes much longer to cool. With interval cardio or HIIT it works the same. Your metabolism GREATLY revs up in shorter period compared to longer length cardio. Yes you may not burn AS many calories during the cardio... BUT the your metabolism is MUCH more elevated, ie after the calorie burn after, from the intervals.
I hope someone sees my point

SPIKE1257 · 07-29-2004, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atherjen

same here. Id reccomend HIIT over moderate longer cardio anyday.

Ok think of it this way.... you have 2 pots of water that need heated.
Pot #1- you put it on a medium heat to slowly heat up.
Pot#2- you put it on high heat and it comes to a rapid boil much quicker.
.... then you let these cool. Which one cools off the fastest?
answer: Pot # 1.

moral of story. compare to metabolism. In less time pot # 1 came to a boil. The after effect is that it takes much longer to cool. With interval cardio or HIIT it works the same. Your metabolism GREATLY revs up in shorter period compared to longer length cardio. Yes you may not burn AS many calories during the cardio... BUT the your metabolism is MUCH more elevated, ie after the calorie burn after, from the intervals.
I hope someone sees my point

Holy smokes.

SPIKE1257 · 07-29-2004, 05:29 PM

Or in laymen's terms....

**calalily1972** · 07-29-2004, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atherjen

same here. Id reccomend HIIT over moderate longer cardio anyday.

Ok think of it this way.... you have 2 pots of water that need heated.
Pot #1- you put it on a medium heat to slowly heat up.
Pot#2- you put it on high heat and it comes to a rapid boil much quicker.
.... then you let these cool. Which one cools off the fastest?
answer: Pot # 1.

moral of story. compare to metabolism. In less time pot # 1 came to a boil. The after effect is that it takes much longer to cool. With interval cardio or HIIT it works the same. Your metabolism GREATLY revs up in shorter period compared to longer length cardio. Yes you may not burn AS many calories during the cardio... BUT the your metabolism is MUCH more elevated, ie after the calorie burn after, from the intervals.
I hope someone sees my point

Nice post Jen

I recently started running the morning. I know me do cardio

Well, with all the recent changes lately I need to do something to keep lean and I use to run so why not. Besides it gives me time to think about my day ahead and clears my mind.

Well, I hate doing ANY cardio in the gym so instead I do it in the am outdoors early in the morning. I run for 3 miles but its not flat, its a constant up and down hills. I like to think of it as intervals. I wear a HR monitor and I'll go from 155 to 175.

Anyway, one thing I noticed for me, is if I run on an empty stomach, I am very tired all day long. I mean extremely tired and no energy. So this week I started having a shake, wait 1/2 hour and then run. My energy is back up and I feel great. I'm not saying empty stomach cardio is bad but for me it is because I seem to be very lathargic the rest of day.

Jill · 07-29-2004, 06:53 PM

Great info peeps!

Aj-I always do interval cardio, ALWAYS. I do cardio after weights, except for my rest day when I ONLY do cardio.

Jodi run?? I never thought Id see the day.

Good for you hot stuff!

aztecwolf · 07-29-2004, 07:51 PM

early morning runs on the beach are the best, i usually do like Jodi does, down a protein shake and wait a little then go.

atherjen · 07-29-2004, 07:55 PM

Jodi, glad to hear that your running!

as for my post..

either you get it... or you dont.

Jilly, glad you always do intervals.

aztecwolf · 07-29-2004, 08:13 PM

also wouldn't you also get the same benefits because if you down a protein shake, you still are not supplying yourself with carbs for energy so you will use up a greater % of fat for the cardio

atherjen · 07-29-2004, 08:24 PM

to my best of knowledge I believe that holds some validation aztec. I think it greatly depends upon how much glycogen one has stored in the muscle tissues. If one was following a ketogenic or extremly low carb diet, I would persume that the protein would be converted to glucose via glucogenisis to supply energy.

07-29-2004, 12:23 PM	#5
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	30mins is long enough. is it steady state or intervals? " To dream anything you want to dream: That is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything you want to do: That is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself to test your limits: that is the courage to succeed." NPC Southern Classic, June 3rd NPC Cajun Classic, June 10th NPC Mississippi State July 22nd

07-29-2004, 01:15 PM	#7
LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	I would never exercise on a completly empty stomach. at least take some glutamine and BCAA's to reduce catabolism... Dumbest statement made in the Anabolic Zone for Nov TBD ----------------------------------------------------- What you talking about Willis ?

07-29-2004, 07:51 PM	#15
aztecwolf Sackin' up every day Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: san diego Posts: 1,267 Photos: 3	early morning runs on the beach are the best, i usually do like Jodi does, down a protein shake and wait a little then go. -Sack Up- "If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding. How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?" Pink Floyd, Another Brick in the Wall

07-29-2004, 07:55 PM	#16
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	Jodi, glad to hear that your running! as for my post.. either you get it... or you dont. Jilly, glad you always do intervals. " To dream anything you want to dream: That is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything you want to do: That is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself to test your limits: that is the courage to succeed." NPC Southern Classic, June 3rd NPC Cajun Classic, June 10th NPC Mississippi State July 22nd

07-29-2004, 08:13 PM	#17
aztecwolf Sackin' up every day Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: san diego Posts: 1,267 Photos: 3	also wouldn't you also get the same benefits because if you down a protein shake, you still are not supplying yourself with carbs for energy so you will use up a greater % of fat for the cardio -Sack Up- "If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding. How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?" Pink Floyd, Another Brick in the Wall

07-29-2004, 11:22 AM	#1
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Empty Stomach Cardio What is the recommended max amount of time to do cardio on an empty stomach?

07-29-2004, 11:57 AM	#2
SPIKE1257 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New York Posts: 1,532	I never go more then 30 mins. Usually 25 mins, and always have water.

07-29-2004, 12:02 PM	#3
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	45 mins too much??

07-29-2004, 12:21 PM	#4
SPIKE1257 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New York Posts: 1,532	I wouldn't go that long. Don't need to.

07-29-2004, 01:50 PM	#8
BoneCrusher Lift or Die Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Austin Texas Posts: 8,589	Catabolism? Uhh .. whas dat?

07-29-2004, 05:29 PM	#12
SPIKE1257 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New York Posts: 1,532	Or in laymen's terms....

07-29-2004, 06:53 PM	#14
Jill Back to reality Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Re-Motivated Posts: 5,861	Great info peeps! Aj-I always do interval cardio, ALWAYS. I do cardio after weights, except for my rest day when I ONLY do cardio. Jodi run?? I never thought Id see the day. Good for you hot stuff!

07-29-2004, 08:24 PM	#18
atherjen DS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: MS Posts: 5,757	to my best of knowledge I believe that holds some validation aztec. I think it greatly depends upon how much glycogen one has stored in the muscle tissues. If one was following a ketogenic or extremly low carb diet, I would persume that the protein would be converted to glucose via glucogenisis to supply energy. " To dream anything you want to dream: That is the beauty of the human mind. To do anything you want to do: That is the strength of the human will. To trust yourself to test your limits: that is the courage to succeed." NPC Southern Classic, June 3rd NPC Cajun Classic, June 10th NPC Mississippi State July 22nd

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