Thread: I'm lost..

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Oh and dont consider PH/PS's till youve gotten a good bit of "natural lifting" under your belt.

give up smoking iv been clean 4 2months now makes a big difference

Originally Posted by kvyd

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Hello,
Thank you kvyd for the very quick response, Didn't think I'd catch one that fast, heh. So basically I would need to work up a diet, based on good nutrition for me. By "Lift heavy" do you mean I should be lifting sorta max so that I lift about the most I can in small rep's?. Also, Thank you for the information you just gave about the PH/PS.. I was thinking it wouldn't be a good way to just start out for me, but later in time would something like M1T be a good thing to take? Is their better stuff out their then M1T?, or does it have any real dangerous side effect's that could possibly cause death or anything that would effect me down the line?, I would more then likely consider some type of PH/PS down the line from working out and like you said with having alot of weight training under my belt, just wondering what type of thing down the line I should look into or what is good on the market, I could also just wait it out then later on down the line when I am ready for something in the PH/PS field to ask then as I am sure they are coming out with new stuff all the time or atleast on a monthly basis, so today's great's may be tommorow's ok's.

If I misunderstood anything please let me know.

Originally Posted by Flash

give up smoking iv been clean 4 2months now makes a big difference

Hello,
I can give up smoking fairly easy, I just later on down the line find myself smoking again, I'm sure you know how this is.. Alot say it's not a easy thing to just drop and it's not, I mean you can drop it for a while without any help but later on get's a lil hard. I've been smoking for a while tho, but I have been able to stop for over a full year with no problem.. so it will be a easy give up. I just was posting it in my information so those of you helping would be able to know that I do smoke, in the case that it would matter enough to slow me down. I'm going to quit anyway as it isn't anything good all the way around as in appearance and the health risk's.

Thank you tho and good job on your 2 months without smoking, very excellent work.

btw do bit of webdesign myself altho fairly amatuer have you got ne sites i cud have a look at

Originally Posted by Flash

btw do bit of webdesign myself altho fairly amatuer have you got ne sites i cud have a look at

Hello again,
Most of the web design itself I do for Boxed Art and Template Monster. Although, I'm not sure on this board's full rules without running through them so I wont advertise any links to them here. My other work such as programming an so forth have been for Smart CGI's mostly which is mostly Perl/CGI work. Their are other site's which I manage such as for Helping Hand's (US), El Granito Foundation (US/California), and a few random personal site's for clients. Hopefully sometime in the near future will have my own web/graphic design and development company and staff, would be wonderful.

the best way to build muscle is to use high resistance with a low number of reps per set say 3 sets of 8 reps

M1t is a ph or pro hormone not a steroid hence it is legal in some countries (at the min) It converts to testosterone in the body

common side effects are:

loss of sex drive
shrinkage of balls
acne
mood swings

for that reason M1t is often stacked with 4ad this helps to combat loss of sex drive, mood swings and also imporves gains ect altho 4ad can also convert to estrogen which cud leads to gyno (formation of man boobs ) At 19 u hav enuf test bopping about so u dnt need to worry bout pro hormones/roids at all the best thing for you to look at is your diet

M-1-T is a steroid already and doesn't convert into testosterone, it is legal only b/c of a loophole.
The 4-ad does convert into Test that is why it compliments the m-1-t b/c m-1-t inhibits your test production just like "real" steroids.
Add elevated liver enzymes to the list of sides mentioned above.
It does work better than all the others, but IMHO you should gain what you can first, at your age you have an advantage of higher natural Test levels than us old guys.

Also eat at least 150g of protein EVERY day. And I personally would jack up the Cal's to 3,000 if you can, see how that goes.
Also you have to lift HARD core, but first get used to doing the movements for a week or 3.

First off, if you're serious about getting in shape and gaining some muscle, knock the smoking shit out - for good. I don't want to hear any excuses or whining.

You're just starting out... why are you even talking about taking steroids?

Get yourself access to a good gym, research and build yourself a nice routine, and get your diet in check. Eat enough calories, carbs, protein, etc and you'll grow. But most important of all, stay dedicated. If you don't see the results you expect right away, stick with it! They will come in time.

Oh and cut that smoking shit out!

Originally Posted by SJ69

Also eat at least 150g of protein EVERY day. And I personally would jack up the Cal's to 3,000 if you can, see how that goes.
Also you have to lift HARD core, but first get used to doing the movements for a week or 3.

Hey,
That's alot of great advice, I'll certainly do it. I may start the 1st of next month so that I got the chance to have a clean start and I wont have nicotine in my system by then, I flushed my cigarette's down the toilet a little earlier.. So I've had enough of those which will allow me to actually get a clean fresh start in a healthy way without them. Although, You suggested that I eat atleast 105 grams of protein everyday, do you have any suggested protein type/brand that I should take?. I went through bodybuilding.com and noticed that their are so many different brands and type's of protein, I don't know where to go with it, heh. Their is.. Whey, Casein, Egg, Soy, Blends, Low Carb, and Weight Gainer protein's and atleast 50 different brand's under each category. If you know more then 1 suggested protein I should take that would be fine, I have about $5,000 free'd up on my credit card that I could use to get all my equiptment and stuff, I went shopping today and found a nice weight bench and stuff at Big 5 Sporting Good's, and they have I believe it was 250lb's of weight's and 2 dumbell's for a good price their right now.. So I'll be picking up that, I just need to know what supplement's I should pick up such as protein and so forth.

Also, I have seen alot of different stuff like blend's an stuff along with protein bar's, would they be considered about the same as tablets or anything?, I'm just confused on what protein(s) I should take to help me out.

I also looked at alot of different diet's an so on that were pretty nice, Just let me know.

Thanks again.

As far as weight training goes, I recommend starting with a full body routine done 3 times per week for the first 9-12 weeks of training. Use compound exercises and free weights to begin. This should give you a good place to start.

Starting with higher reps such as 12-15 for a few sessions is a good idea to get the form down on all your lifts. Make sure to know the proper form on all lifts for the best results and redcued chance of injury.

Here is a you might want to try. I did a similar routine when I first started lifting on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday:

Full Squats 3 x 8-12
Romanian Deadlifts 2 x 8-12

Deadlifts 3 x 8-12
Bent Rows 2 x 8-12

Bench Press 3 x 8-12
Military Press 2 x 8-12

Decline Situps 3 x 8-12

Optimum Nutrition (ON) whey is what I'm using now, Strawberry. I do 1 one shake pre workout and one post wo + whenever I feel I'm not eating enough protein. I always mix with milk which will give you more protein and more Cal's. Try to eat as much meat as possible also, you should get most of your protein from food rather than shakes. Bars make a good snack, though alot of people disagree.
MetRx makes a a good mixed proteins that digest slower and would be good for right before you crash for the night.

You could also check out http://www.allthewhey.com/ they are one of the sponsors for this board and I heard their products are good.

Originally Posted by Chr1stoph3r

I have about $5,000 free'd up on my credit card that I could use to get all my equiptment and stuff, I went shopping today and found a nice weight bench and stuff at Big 5 Sporting Good's, and they have I believe it was 250lb's of weight's and 2 dumbell's for a good price their right now..

I'd join a good gym instead. You'll have access to far more equipment. At first it may seem intimidating to workout around people who seem so much stronger or advanced then you, but trust me, it will motivate you. Plus you'll eventually make some friends, and a good workout partner is priceless.

I was 155 at 17 years old and 6 foot tall. A lightning fast bean pole. I started to lift at 18 and by 19 was at 200 pounds. No roids, no dietary help. My body provided all the help I needed. At your age bro all you need is desire and balls. Oh, and access to steel helps a lil too.

LOL ... watch as the people you know change in how thet treat you as you get biger while they stay the same. It is funny ... every guy here that started off slender or small can relate to what I am saying.

Good luck and enjoy the journey.

Hello again everybody and thank you for all your help.

I have went through a extensive time of trying to research on everything I could to see what all I could pull from it. Truth is, It's hard to find exactly what will help and what wont as every single document I have read differ's from the others.. which yes, bring's alot of question's in mind.

1.) I'm confused at how I should start.. I was told I should eat more, etc.. and gain some weight.
a.) How much pounds should I gain before starting on weight lifting?
b.) How long should I work on gaining?
c.) Should I gain just in the beginning? Or should I start gaining in the beginning, then every month gain? This is a big one...
d.) Do you know of any resource's that would give me a sort of chart on how many time's a day I should eat, good things to eat during the period of gaining, etc..?

2.) I'm also confused on what I should do after putting on the pounds(see #1), I was told to lift heavier weight's in smaller reps, along with eating nutrious and have a diet ready.
a.) During the process of lifting heavier weights, If my weight starts to drop.. Should I; Continue with my lifting/diet and not worry about it?, or should I add/take from my diet and try to keep at a specific weight gain/loss?.
b.) I have found on this board a shopping list and a outline of a healthy diet, Would any of you have any resources or suggestion's that would help me decide just exactly how I would put my diet together?
c.) Since I was suggested to get Whey Protein (If I didn't read wrong, heh). What would be a proper good use of it?, Could I make up of lost protein's during the meal and replace it with Whey Protein instead? or even.. If I can't handle so many meal's a day, could I take whey protein and other supplement's to make up for the lost meal without losing my protein an so forth I should have recieved during that time?
d.) How often should Whey Protein be taken?, Is it good for anytime or only works best during a specific time?, If it's not good for anytime, is their any other protein I could take to make up for the extra time during the day without throwing off my diet?

These are all the question's as of right now that come to mind.. You guys have been so much help and have gave me so much motivation to start body building/weight training, it's pretty nice and I can't wait to start... I just want to make sure I start off the correct way.

Thanks again for all your help!

Sincerely,
Chris

PS: Is their any like live public chatroom available from Iron Magazine Forums?, I'd like to get the chance to actually discuss with you guy's without having to post long post's.. I'd more then prefer to have a live discussion but if their is no way for this to happen, posting on the forum would be ok.