Hammer Strength Machines

**tonybaloney** · 09-09-2004, 02:41 PM

Are Hammer strength machines as good as free weights. I feel like some people are better at using these machines than other and that they don't give me as good as a workout either. Are they easier for shorter lifters, and what are their advantages and dissadvantages. I really appreciate any help as always. Thank you.

**nikegurl** · 09-09-2004, 02:45 PM

I don't think there will ever be a machine that replaces free weights. That being said - there are certain exercises I do like machines for. I'd say find what works for you and use a variety of machines and free weights. Overall I do like Hammer Strength equipment but I'd never give up free weights AND there are always a few machines that I prefer another brand over the Hammer Strength.

**LAM** · 09-09-2004, 02:49 PM

just like any other machine Hammer Strength should be used in conjuction with a free-weight based training program...IMO they are best used for training to failure and doing rest-pause when you don't have a spotter for the use of free weights...

**Mudge** · 09-09-2004, 02:52 PM

I like some of the hammer stuff but never use the bench stuff for instance, I dont like starting a press from the positive, hate it.

**soxmuscle** · 09-09-2004, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Mudge

I like some of the hammer stuff but never use the bench stuff for instance, I dont like starting a press from the positive, hate it.

starting a set from the positive is awful. I agree.

**Pepper** · 09-09-2004, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by nikegurl

I don't think there will ever be a machine that replaces free weights. That being said - there are certain exercises I do like machines for. I'd say find what works for you and use a variety of machines and free weights. Overall I do like Hammer Strength equipment but I'd never give up free weights AND there are always a few machines that I prefer another brand over the Hammer Strength.

NG spits the troof here.

**gr81** · 09-09-2004, 08:04 PM

I love Hammer strength machines, that is as far as machines go. they are useful

Du · 09-09-2004, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by gr81

I love Hammer strength machines, that is as far as machines go. they are useful

I like them a lot too. Especially the shoulder press. I usually lift by myself, so the lack of a spot puts me in a situation sometimes. The hammer machines help that.

They dont dumbells and barbells, but they complement them well.

**Jodi** · 09-09-2004, 11:20 PM

I like the hammer strenth too. I only like the plate loaded ones though and not the stack ones.

**ponyboy** · 09-10-2004, 03:59 AM

Originally Posted by LAM

just like any other machine Hammer Strength should be used in conjuction with a free-weight based training program...IMO they are best used for training to failure and doing rest-pause when you don't have a spotter for the use of free weights...

What he said . Hammer strength is great for rest-pause.

**BulkMeUp** · 09-10-2004, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by Mudge

I like some of the hammer stuff but never use the bench stuff for instance, I dont like starting a press from the positive, hate it.

Dont know about the hammer machines, but curious to know what "starting a press from the positive" means.

**pmech** · 09-10-2004, 11:13 AM

Starting with the weights at the bottom of the press, pressing away from the body. The negative is the point where it is coming back twoards you. I look forward to that negative to start out with also. Just habit I think.

**I Are Baboon** · 09-10-2004, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by Jodi

I like the hammer strenth too. I only like the plate loaded ones though and not the stack ones.

WuRd

I usually only use the Hammer Strength machines that target the back.

**Mudge** · 09-10-2004, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by BulkMeUp

Dont know about the hammer machines, but curious to know what "starting a press from the positive" means.

Positive is a pushing force or extending like a leg extention. I like starting with a negative and for me on benching a very slow negative is an absolute must, my first rep usually takes probably about 8-10 seconds to complete now when I go heavy.

There is a stack weighted row that I kind of like, but there isn't enough weight on it. I use the plate loaded high row and do like it, although its about maxed out as well unless I throw on 100s.

**pumpchaser** · 10-08-2004, 05:48 PM

Interesting, the continuing dogma and alligiance to weights. Sure, BBs and powerlifters got the way they did using weights, but that's all there was then, or at least that's all that most used.

To me, the best leverage machines, and not just Hammer, meaning the best designed ones from any company-are better than weights. Each company's machines have to be tried to see which are best. If well designed, they're more intense, more direct, more to the point and more efficient at creating growth. I say this after using weights for years and years. Leverage is best, but the weight stack versions are also excellent, if again they're properly designed and if they allow the user to adjust for their body type.

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