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    max-0-T on a cut woul it be better

    Hi everybody it make a a little while that I haven't post but I'm still very active on reading at this forum.

    I still pursuit the quest of my cut transformation, I'm still a female 5'6" start at 160 pounds and today have reach 124.4 pounds bf surely around 14 or 15% so closely 36 pound lost. I'm not into a comp preparation, but in a near futur will probably be looking for it. From now I have took 91/2 months on cutting plan, slowly but surely. Never have gone crazy on cardio cause I just want to keep my muscle with a good diet plan and very few cardio's per week have beendone until now, maybee 2 times/week HITT.

    So now my question is regarding training, I know it's impossible for me adding muscle mass while being into calorie deficit, but I want to know if I work my weight training by doing max-0-t programm, is there a chance that my muscle will be harder, firmer, better peak, bringing better definition, cause I know with the 5 rep x 5 sets I can definitivaly train and overload much more plate and of course the fun of it, it could be less time consuming in the gym. I always make sure that I have my carbs before and after my training weight with my l. Glutamine.

    So I'm still at the pursuit of my best looking female bodybuilding look, I know someone's could tell me, Hey 124.4 pounds at 5'6" comeone girl, try to add more muscle (bulk) and then get back on the cut. But for now I'm happy with the muscle gain and want to bring that lean body to know what I can be able to do with my self, and when I'll reach and see how far I could go, and then I'll begin to pack on more muscle, look for female competion show, then go on the cut.

    But for now what do you think about having my self getting into the 5 x 5 programs. I'm close to that ripped looking, I think that probably 5 more pounds should bring me to that good lood, but more closer to the goal, more harder it seems to be.

    Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.

    Thank's
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    so your goal is to put on some muscle and create yourself more definition?
    During bulking; muscle synthesis caused by the overload introduced to the muscle. As we know muscle synthesis may not burn all the fats/proteins/carbs you intake. Therefore you will be putting on some fat, but not a considerable amount.

    This is the reason for Max-OT cardio, only problem here is you will be burning a minimal amount of calories in that 16 miniute interval period depending on how itnense you set your intervals. Generally people burn between 150-350 calories.

    If you are looking to increase muscle mass but maintain definition id suggest making your own program based on the Max-OT program. Compound the days by using the machines at your gym. Shorten the weight training schedual by giving yourself a couple more extra days. With these extra days go for a 45 miniute low intesity cardio training session. Dont forget the Max-OT cardio after the weight session.

    So Your Schedual Might Look Like this:

    Monday: Back,Biceps,Forearms + Max-OT Cardio

    Tuesday: 45 Min low Intensity session.

    Wednesday: Triceps, Chest, Abs, Shoulders + Max-OT Cardio

    Thursday: 45 Min low Intensity session.

    Friday: Legs.... + Max-OT Cardio

    Sat: 45 Min low Intensity session.

    Sun: Off Day

    This is all based on the decision you want to gain some muscle and keep your current definition.

    It will take longer than a conventional bulk, or a conventional slim. But shorter than if you were to do both in succession.

    Remeber dont listen to all of the Max-OT bs they feed you. Max-OT cardio does not promote muscle growth at all times. You probably obviously know that if the cardio is performed using the legs; the legs are the muscle who are going to grow. But remember dont overtrain yourself.

    Also you dont have to take all the suppliments they tell you to; half of that program is an add.

    Just use your best judgement.

    Hope that Helps

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    Hi shad,

    Thank you for answering my post, my goal will be eventually, after that I reach my first lean goal, to add more muscle, but for now I'm 200% sure that it's impossible to add muscle because I'm into a caloric deficit and eating under my TDEE. My question is much more, with my weight training, not talking about cardio's or eating plan, but talking only about my weight training. Does max-o-T programm, will play a different role on my muscle, cause I know I'm able to lift more heavy weight. What I mean is do you think that max-o-t will play a better role on my muscle definition, firmer, harder or better peak without talking about cardio's or eating plan. Is keeping the sheme rep heavy, short and intensif will be better or not.
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    not at all.

    Exactley how many calories are you consuming a day?

    In reponse to your other questions: muscle definition is ONLY achieved by low body fat %. No Exceptions. Only reason why ppl continue to lift weights during the cutting trimester is to hang onto muscle, youll also notice people who cut are exercising at realativley low intesity. They probably have lowered their weight considerably from their max, and now performing more reps; causing a greater amount of fat burning.

    Max-OT is for bulking. Short, Intensive, and Heavy. Some of the main ingredients in bulking. Atleast the Max-OT way.

    A good cutting schedual would mainly consist of cardio and low intensity weight lifting inorder to hang onto the muscle.

    Hope that clears it up a bit?

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    Max-OT is an excellent program. While you may not be able to add much muscle, if any on a calorie deficit, MAX OT and its principles will allow you to keep most of the muscle you have put on, and maybe even add a small amount.

    I would recommend starting with 2 sessions of MAX ot cardio, or HIIT 2 times a week and bump it one day every two weeks, until you start to see yourself shed more muscle than you would like.
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    If I undersand well Shad, you will have me lowering my intensity weight and more reps training and got me into 5 x times a week cardio.

    And if I understand well camarosuper 6, I could keep my low intensity training as the max-o-t and you'll got me into 2 x times hitt and buil up weekly my hitt. (progressive hitt + add of moderate intensity cardio)

    It seems that there is 2 different thinking here. From now I did not get into all the cardio's things, thinking that I should give me rooms, when I'll be hitting a plateau. And Ithink that it is times to built up on my progressive hitt weekly, but for the weight training, I will like to have other feedbacks, I keep intense low rep or I lower everything and higher reps.

    Any other thoughts.
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    since your body fat is getting very low the addition of BCAA's can definetly aid in increasing LBM while losing body fat. I would shoot for 15 grams daily.

    ICE is a great product which also supplies L-Glutamine which also aids in recovery and sustaining LBM while in a caloric defecit...

    http://www.dpsnutrition.net/product_...1464&last=1464
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    enough with the suppliments

    stop wasting money.

    Eat natural.

    Stop buying stuff that has been processed out of recognition.

    eat healthy, eat right youll do fine.

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    Thank's for the the Link Lam.

    For now the supplement I'm taking is a good Multi-vitamin with alot of anti-oxydant and getting for now 4.5g of L.Glutamine, 2 to 4 times a day, Vitamin C and my isolate whey protein and nothing else for now. After reading so much about L.Glutamine and all the benefit's of it that's for sure I will alway's kept that great supplement.

    I'm right now getting into the great reading of BCAAs which are essential amino acids that our body can't produce and knowing they make up 1/3 of my muscle's protein I guess they are important for muscle maintenance and preserve my muscle glycogen reserves and as well preventing my muscle protein breakdown during my training. So I'll keep reading more on that BCAAs.

    Shad, you take any supplement's at all.

    Any other thoughts about the weight training intensity.
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    nop, no suppliments: just the good old sleep, veggies, fresh meat (none processed) and a healthy balanced diet. Wow i sound like a commercial dont I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shad
    enough with the suppliments

    stop wasting money.

    Eat natural.

    Stop buying stuff that has been processed out of recognition.

    eat healthy, eat right youll do fine.
    blah...blah...blah....
    I train differently than most, my beef is with gravity the weights on the bar are just the medium...Thanks to Wall Street your slice of the American Pie has been reduced to a crumb.

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    Hey is this the same shad on the wanna be big forum. I just love reading your xxxxx up post today on that forum telling everyone on wanna get big that there's is the only forum that doesn't have idiots asking stupid ?s. BUDDY YOU OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE coming to this forum and giving advise and ?ing people like MR. LAM. So shad you need to go back to your favorite forum where there's no idiots posting stupid ?'s
    here's shad post today on another forum

    Wanna Be Big - Better than the rest
    Ive concluded that this forum in general is "smarter" in general.

    Ive found most other forums that belong to BBing magazines ask stupid questions, alot

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM
    since your body fat is getting very low the addition of BCAA's can definetly aid in increasing LBM while losing body fat. I would shoot for 15 grams daily.

    ICE is a great product which also supplies L-Glutamine which also aids in recovery and sustaining LBM while in a caloric defecit...

    http://www.dpsnutrition.net/product_...1464&last=1464
    Definitely agree with LAM on the value of using BCAAs while trying to lose fat and maintain muscle. You can buy BCAAs for $18/lb at trueprotein.com.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kim
    I'm still a female
    That's good to know..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPIKE1257
    That's good to know..
    Hey, Hey Spike, don't worry eventhough I lift heavy and train like you guys, there is nothing weird that have growth on my body (just kidding). but probably to much boots lost.(ah.ah.)I have always received good advise from Lam and I think that I'm a big girl and I'm able to judge all info getting by the net. BUT YOU BAD GUYS, have not answer's my questions regarding my intensity training Do I keep everything intense, short and sweet. I know about the cardio's thing, I know how to trick my eating plan but I will like to know if I keep my low sheme reps between 4 to 6 is okay or I should work more with endurance. Okay now I'm waiting some more thoughts

    Spike I hate your abs God dammit
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    When I'm on a cut I like to keep my reps up 8 to 12, I do it like this because I consume less calories and I'm not as strong as when I'm bulking... And as I lose fat it's awesome to see the muscle contract with each rep, the mind muscle connection at this point is incredible. I enjoy seeing the muscle work and as I lose fat .

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