my friend the freak

dnale48 · 11-16-2004, 01:56 AM

hey guys i just wanted to share something with yall. OK ive got this buddy of mine who is an absolute best. He's 19 6 ft 245 lbs of pure fuckin muscle. No steriods no special diet. I was asking him a bunch of questions one day about his training and nutrition. I have to say from what i gathered he doesnt have a clue about traing and diet but yet hes a freakin moster, he grown so damn fast at all times. Hes got stretch marks on his lats, bis, tris and chest. I just dont understand how this mother fucker does it. Oh and by the way he presses 430 lbs. Just something to ponder about fellas.

camarosuper6 · 11-16-2004, 01:59 AM

Its called steroids and genetics.

Your friend is lying to you.

dnale48 · 11-16-2004, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by camarosuper6

Its called steroids and genetics.

Your friend is lying to you.

no bro hes not on steriods i know him well enough, hes admitted to taking them in the past but that was along time ago, probably a year or since hes used them and hes gotten bigger since then.

**Mudge** · 11-16-2004, 02:55 AM

A lot of people have wives that dont even know the truth, but either way, a 430 press is certainly respectable.

The only guys I have known to be true mesomorphs, were short, 5'8" 205ish.

camarosuper6 · 11-16-2004, 04:12 AM

430 press for reps at 19 on no anabolics is pretty damn ridiculous.

Impossible, no. Unlikely, yes.

dbolman · 11-16-2004, 07:17 AM

He said he used them "a long time ago", as in a year ago, that's fairly recent. Try to get some pics for us..

LAM · 11-16-2004, 09:27 AM

the right person can easily keep strength gains from steroid cycles. I also don't believe many people who look like they are on gear and claim not to be. I've had childhood friends of 20 + years lie right to my face and say there were clean when the roid dealer told me other wize...

if it looks like a duck...

bulletproof1 · 11-16-2004, 09:33 AM

this chick that cuts my hair, her hubby is a bb. he is 6' and a ripped 230. i have never met him personally but i have seen many pics of him. to my knowledge he doesnt juice but i could be wrong. maybe he uses and she doesnt even know it. i know he has been a bb for about 15 years now. she (the woman that cuts my hair) has recently got into bb as well. he wont go to the gym she has been going to though simply because they dont have 150 pound dumbbells.

ekeke · 11-17-2004, 01:13 AM

I hate to burst you guy's bubble. But, being a freak can be a race-related( I'm African-American) issue. For instance, I am 6'2 300(but I look 260), I bench 475. I have never used steroids, creatine, or prohormones. In my boyhood neighborhood, everyone I knew was muscular and athletic. None of us lifted weights or dieted. For instance, my 2 brothers never lifted or dieted a day in their life, and they both have six packs. I have a friend who is 6'5 330lbs, under 10% bodyfat and 60 years old. He has never taken a drug in his life. And, he eats fried chicken on a regular, and so do I. In my neighborhood these bodytypes are the norm. When people(in my neighborhood) see the 60 year old freak, no one says oh this guys on steroids because he is the norm, and everyone has known him for 60 years. My grandfather smoked, drinked heavily at the age of 65, but I bet he could have won a bodybuilding competition at 65. He was ripped at about 200lbs and 65 years old.

The reason I write this is because I live in a prodominant white/hispanic community. Most of these people have never been to my old community, so they think I am a freek when they see me benching 405 for reps. I see them over in the corners whispering. Some will gain courage and come ask me, " hey man what are you taking - creatine, prohormones, etc..." Then when I tell them that I am natural, they say okay. But I know they don't believe me. I understand why. In their neighborhood, people that look like me are few. But in my old neighborhood, I am the norm. Its a matter of fact, I would consider myself below the norm considering some of my friends I grew up with.

I have found that very jealous people generally are the ones who don't accept when someone tells them that they are natural.

DimebagDarrell · 11-17-2004, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ekeke

But, being a freak can be a race-related( I'm African-American) issue.

i attributed my black friend's athleticism and build to his extra Nigament

(please dont take that as racist, because its not, and im not, its funny if you take it at face value)

gr81 · 11-17-2004, 02:56 AM

first and foremost, WWHHHHHOOOOOOOOO CARES!!

post like this are completely un important and contribute nothing, and this pathetic attempt to be hardcore by association means nothing, especially over the internet. Post something that will benefit people positively b/c no one cares about your friend or who you know. jesus christ get a clue

camarosuper6 · 11-17-2004, 04:04 AM

ROFLMAO.

Yea, if you got big by association, Johnnny would be huyyyuuuge.

camarosuper6 · 11-17-2004, 04:08 AM

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In my boyhood neighborhood, everyone I knew was muscular and athletic

Where the fuq did you live, some top secret radiation infested base in New Mexico?

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For instance, my 2 brothers never lifted or dieted a day in their life, and they both have six packs. I have a friend who is 6'5 330lbs, under 10% bodyfat and 60 years old.

Do you live in a family of Ogre's?

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And, he eats fried chicken on a regular

Oohh... so friend chicken is a black thing...

Sounds like a SLIGHTLY embellished story to me... but hey, like Gr81 said.. who cares anyway.

wtfzor · 11-17-2004, 04:56 AM

if you think THAT is freak, you ain't seen nothing yet...

Flex · 11-17-2004, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by camarosuper6

Yea, if you got big by association, Johnnny would be huyyyuuuge.

so would MANY BB's at IM

BigDyl · 11-17-2004, 06:37 AM

I can relate mang, i bench 585 49 times. All natural. My great grandfather won Mr. Olympia this year.

Luke9583 · 11-17-2004, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dnale48

no bro hes not on steriods i know him well enough, hes admitted to taking them in the past but that was along time ago, probably a year or since hes used them and hes gotten bigger since then.

HE's 19 and he used roids a couple years in the past? hmmmm

I have a freind that's 20 180 and presses 380 like butta'. But he's been in the game for a long time. He's never touched even the simplest supplements.

Flex · 11-17-2004, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

I can relate mang, i bench 585 49 times. All natural. My great grandfather won Mr. Olympia this year.

impressive

**CowPimp** · 11-17-2004, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ekeke

I have a friend who is 6'5 330lbs, under 10% bodyfat and 60 years old.

Who is your friend, Ronnie Coleman's dad? Give me a fucking break.

BigDyl · 11-17-2004, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Flex

impressive

Yeah, and that was on a bad day.

stats: 7'8, 530 LB's, 4.3% BF.
1RM BB Bench: 987
1RM Squat ATF: 1240
1RM Deadlift: 1038

All natural (obviously)

gr81 · 11-17-2004, 12:07 PM

ain't nuthin but that LITE WATE BABY!!

lol

ekeke · 11-17-2004, 04:13 PM

As I stated before, because none of you grew up in my neighborhood and you're jealous, you won't accept the truth.

The truth is "cowpimp" probably more like small d*ck - in your neighborhoods(white ones) you don't see 6'5 330lbs under 10% bodyfat people walking around. I do. I live in a prodominant white neighborhood now and on average I see a bunch of skinny or fat or average teenage kids, including adults. This was not the case in my old neighborhood.

You guys are so narrow-minded because you have never lived in my-type hoods. The only reason I wrote this was to support the original poster who stated that his friend was natural. And as usually the genetically weak automatically assume he was lying. I understand why you would because in your neighborhood the norm is physically genetic weakness, but in my old neighborhood, if someone has weak physical genetics they were beat up or outcasts.

And to the guy who want to say something about being a nigg*r. I am sure your girl friend was one of the cheerleaders from my college days who begged me to let her touch my 12 inches. Jealousy will get you no where. Leave the comfort of your homes one day and go to a recreational center in your local black neighborhood( at your own risk of course, except for the jealous guy making references to nigg*rs).

You can say alot from a keyboard, but when you're face-to-face with a 6'2 300lbs freak staring you in the eye, ready to knock all of your teeth out, then we would see the real jealous bitc* that you are. ( this statement directed to the guy making nigg*r references and of course cowbitch)

Your statements are a guarantee that american will remain the racists monster she has always been. Accept it, decendants of africa have very good physical genetics; therefore everytime you see a freak don't assume everyone is weak like you and uses steroids...

Oh my point about eating fried foods(chicken), was to assert that I don't diet with foods like baked chicken, tuna, yams, etc...

Flex · 11-17-2004, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ekeke

Your statements are a guarantee that american will remain the racists monster she has always been. Accept it, decendants of africa have very good physical genetics; therefore everytime you see a freak don't assume everyone is weak like you and uses steroids...

At least you're not stereotyping

I have MANY black friends, among my best friends in fact, and IMO black people are JUST as racist as white people.

And ya, i don't assume Ronnie Coleman takes steroids, i think he just eats alot of chicken

BigDyl · 11-17-2004, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekeke

As I stated before, because none of you grew up in my neighborhood and you're jealous, you won't accept the truth.

The truth is "cowpimp" probably more like small d*ck - in your neighborhoods(white ones) you don't see 6'5 330lbs under 10% bodyfat people walking around. I do. I live in a prodominant white neighborhood now and on average I see a bunch of skinny or fat or average teenage kids, including adults. This was not the case in my old neighborhood.

You guys are so narrow-minded because you have never lived in my-type hoods. The only reason I wrote this was to support the original poster who stated that his friend was natural. And as usually the genetically weak automatically assume he was lying. I understand why you would because in your neighborhood the norm is physically genetic weakness, but in my old neighborhood, if someone has weak physical genetics they were beat up or outcasts.

And to the guy who want to say something about being a nigg*r. I am sure your girl friend was one of the cheerleaders from my college days who begged me to let her touch my 12 inches. Jealousy will get you no where. Leave the comfort of your homes one day and go to a recreational center in your local black neighborhood( at your own risk of course, except for the jealous guy making references to nigg*rs).

You can say alot from a keyboard, but when you're face-to-face with a 6'2 300lbs freak staring you in the eye, ready to knock all of your teeth out, then we would see the real jealous bitc* that you are. ( this statement directed to the guy making nigg*r references and of course cowbitch)

Your statements are a guarantee that american will remain the racists monster she has always been. Accept it, decendants of africa have very good physical genetics; therefore everytime you see a freak don't assume everyone is weak like you and uses steroids...

Oh my point about eating fried foods(chicken), was to assert that I don't diet with foods like baked chicken, tuna, yams, etc...

coughbulltshitcough*

It's a hood full of scary monsters that put all of us skinny weaklings to shame. Too bad people who are on hardcore roid cycles with decent genetics don't reach the apex of these natural guys in these mystical hood... somewhere.

I tend to think alot of the guys on ironmag forumns are beasts, and I'm sure quite a few would put your beastmaster friends to shame. I'm 6'7 myself, and I'm a pretty big guy, but just because I'm tall doesnt mean shit. Just because some guy is tall and strong does not mean shit. Sure they can intimidate, but it doesnt mean they can fight. Oh, wait here comes the rant about the 10 time kickboxer/kung fu campion/nfl foot ball player/professional ninja.

sabre81 · 11-17-2004, 06:33 PM

i have a little brother who is 11 years old and weighs 109 lbs and presses 485 for reps. And hes only cycled roids 6 or 7 times.

ekeke · 11-17-2004, 06:48 PM

Of course ronnie uses steroids. I never said he didn't. I was talking about natural people like me and others who you don't see everyday in your community, but I see in mine. Of course no one can look like ronnie and not use steroids. I bench 475 without the help of steroids, creatine, or prohormone crap. I grew up with people stronger and bigger than me who I saw everyday, which were the norm.

I played professional football for 11 years and feel that I have seen what the norm is when it comes to identifying the norm - which is why blacks outnumber all races in sports that require speed, power, strength, size, and agility. Don't be mad. Just be glad you are non-black and dont have face racism everyday of your life you live no matter how much money you have.

DimebagDarrell · 11-17-2004, 06:52 PM

this is fuckin stupid. WHO GIVES A FUCK WHO YOU KNOW?

and ekeke, if you think im racist, shut the fuck up. i dont give a fuck what color you are. i have several black friends. i just care about the attitude. there's people of all races with bad attitudes. my dislike towards people with bad attitudes includes all races, including whites, not just one.

and by the way, statistically, white guys are bigger than blacks. so stfu. http://www.sizesurvey.com/result.html. remember, i dont dislike you because you are black. i dislike you because you think that knowing huge guys makes you the coolest guy ever.

and if you think i have a bad attitude and should hate myself, im a nice guy except when people turn everything anybody says into something racist. THAT is what america is these days. universities have to let in a certain amount of black people or else they get sued, even if their test scores are lower and they are less qualified, and white people can't bring up race at all on tv, but blacks can slander whites and say "punk cracker bitch" just because we're white? fuck that! people need to shut up about race. its about the attitude of the individual, not the color of their skin.

11-16-2004, 01:56 AM	#1
dnale48 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 44	my friend the freak hey guys i just wanted to share something with yall. OK ive got this buddy of mine who is an absolute best. He's 19 6 ft 245 lbs of pure fuckin muscle. No steriods no special diet. I was asking him a bunch of questions one day about his training and nutrition. I have to say from what i gathered he doesnt have a clue about traing and diet but yet hes a freakin moster, he grown so damn fast at all times. Hes got stretch marks on his lats, bis, tris and chest. I just dont understand how this mother fucker does it. Oh and by the way he presses 430 lbs. Just something to ponder about fellas.
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11-16-2004, 01:59 AM	#2
camarosuper6 Back Home In SOCAL Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,354	Its called steroids and genetics. Your friend is lying to you.
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11-16-2004, 02:55 AM	#4
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,071 Photos: 1	A lot of people have wives that dont even know the truth, but either way, a 430 press is certainly respectable. The only guys I have known to be true mesomorphs, were short, 5'8" 205ish.
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11-16-2004, 04:12 AM	#5
camarosuper6 Back Home In SOCAL Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,354	430 press for reps at 19 on no anabolics is pretty damn ridiculous. Impossible, no. Unlikely, yes.
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11-16-2004, 07:17 AM	#6
dbolman Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 30	He said he used them "a long time ago", as in a year ago, that's fairly recent. Try to get some pics for us..
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11-16-2004, 09:27 AM	#7
LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	the right person can easily keep strength gains from steroid cycles. I also don't believe many people who look like they are on gear and claim not to be. I've had childhood friends of 20 + years lie right to my face and say there were clean when the roid dealer told me other wize... if it looks like a duck...
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11-16-2004, 09:33 AM	#8
bulletproof1 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: * Posts: 2,428	this chick that cuts my hair, her hubby is a bb. he is 6' and a ripped 230. i have never met him personally but i have seen many pics of him. to my knowledge he doesnt juice but i could be wrong. maybe he uses and she doesnt even know it. i know he has been a bb for about 15 years now. she (the woman that cuts my hair) has recently got into bb as well. he wont go to the gym she has been going to though simply because they dont have 150 pound dumbbells.

11-17-2004, 01:13 AM	#9
ekeke Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 17	Believe it or not some people are natural I hate to burst you guy's bubble. But, being a freak can be a race-related( I'm African-American) issue. For instance, I am 6'2 300(but I look 260), I bench 475. I have never used steroids, creatine, or prohormones. In my boyhood neighborhood, everyone I knew was muscular and athletic. None of us lifted weights or dieted. For instance, my 2 brothers never lifted or dieted a day in their life, and they both have six packs. I have a friend who is 6'5 330lbs, under 10% bodyfat and 60 years old. He has never taken a drug in his life. And, he eats fried chicken on a regular, and so do I. In my neighborhood these bodytypes are the norm. When people(in my neighborhood) see the 60 year old freak, no one says oh this guys on steroids because he is the norm, and everyone has known him for 60 years. My grandfather smoked, drinked heavily at the age of 65, but I bet he could have won a bodybuilding competition at 65. He was ripped at about 200lbs and 65 years old. The reason I write this is because I live in a prodominant white/hispanic community. Most of these people have never been to my old community, so they think I am a freek when they see me benching 405 for reps. I see them over in the corners whispering. Some will gain courage and come ask me, " hey man what are you taking - creatine, prohormones, etc..." Then when I tell them that I am natural, they say okay. But I know they don't believe me. I understand why. In their neighborhood, people that look like me are few. But in my old neighborhood, I am the norm. Its a matter of fact, I would consider myself below the norm considering some of my friends I grew up with. I have found that very jealous people generally are the ones who don't accept when someone tells them that they are natural.
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11-17-2004, 02:56 AM	#11
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	first and foremost, WWHHHHHOOOOOOOOO CARES!! post like this are completely un important and contribute nothing, and this pathetic attempt to be hardcore by association means nothing, especially over the internet. Post something that will benefit people positively b/c no one cares about your friend or who you know. jesus christ get a clue
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11-17-2004, 04:04 AM	#12
camarosuper6 Back Home In SOCAL Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 3,354	ROFLMAO. Yea, if you got big by association, Johnnny would be huyyyuuuge.
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11-17-2004, 04:56 AM	#14
wtfzor Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 245 Photos: 1	if you think THAT is freak, you ain't seen nothing yet...
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11-17-2004, 06:37 AM	#16
BigDyl Elite Kiki Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Securityland Posts: 15,736 Photos: 2	I can relate mang, i bench 585 49 times. All natural. My great grandfather won Mr. Olympia this year.

11-17-2004, 12:07 PM	#21
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	ain't nuthin but that LITE WATE BABY!! lol
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11-17-2004, 04:13 PM	#22
ekeke Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 17	jealousy As I stated before, because none of you grew up in my neighborhood and you're jealous, you won't accept the truth. The truth is "cowpimp" probably more like small dck - in your neighborhoods(white ones) you don't see 6'5 330lbs under 10% bodyfat people walking around. I do. I live in a prodominant white neighborhood now and on average I see a bunch of skinny or fat or average teenage kids, including adults. This was not the case in my old neighborhood. You guys are so narrow-minded because you have never lived in my-type hoods. The only reason I wrote this was to support the original poster who stated that his friend was natural. And as usually the genetically weak automatically assume he was lying. I understand why you would because in your neighborhood the norm is physically genetic weakness, but in my old neighborhood, if someone has weak physical genetics they were beat up or outcasts. And to the guy who want to say something about being a niggr. I am sure your girl friend was one of the cheerleaders from my college days who begged me to let her touch my 12 inches. Jealousy will get you no where. Leave the comfort of your homes one day and go to a recreational center in your local black neighborhood( at your own risk of course, except for the jealous guy making references to niggrs). You can say alot from a keyboard, but when you're face-to-face with a 6'2 300lbs freak staring you in the eye, ready to knock all of your teeth out, then we would see the real jealous bitc that you are. ( this statement directed to the guy making nigg*r references and of course cowbitch) Your statements are a guarantee that american will remain the racists monster she has always been. Accept it, decendants of africa have very good physical genetics; therefore everytime you see a freak don't assume everyone is weak like you and uses steroids... Oh my point about eating fried foods(chicken), was to assert that I don't diet with foods like baked chicken, tuna, yams, etc...
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11-17-2004, 06:33 PM	#25
sabre81 mmmm weights.. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Western New York Posts: 386	i have a little brother who is 11 years old and weighs 109 lbs and presses 485 for reps. And hes only cycled roids 6 or 7 times.

11-17-2004, 06:48 PM	#26
ekeke Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 17	steroids Of course ronnie uses steroids. I never said he didn't. I was talking about natural people like me and others who you don't see everyday in your community, but I see in mine. Of course no one can look like ronnie and not use steroids. I bench 475 without the help of steroids, creatine, or prohormone crap. I grew up with people stronger and bigger than me who I saw everyday, which were the norm. I played professional football for 11 years and feel that I have seen what the norm is when it comes to identifying the norm - which is why blacks outnumber all races in sports that require speed, power, strength, size, and agility. Don't be mad. Just be glad you are non-black and dont have face racism everyday of your life you live no matter how much money you have.
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11-17-2004, 06:52 PM	#27
DimebagDarrell Cutting sucks. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 774 Photos: 4	this is fuckin stupid. WHO GIVES A FUCK WHO YOU KNOW? and ekeke, if you think im racist, shut the fuck up. i dont give a fuck what color you are. i have several black friends. i just care about the attitude. there's people of all races with bad attitudes. my dislike towards people with bad attitudes includes all races, including whites, not just one. and by the way, statistically, white guys are bigger than blacks. so stfu. http://www.sizesurvey.com/result.html. remember, i dont dislike you because you are black. i dislike you because you think that knowing huge guys makes you the coolest guy ever. and if you think i have a bad attitude and should hate myself, im a nice guy except when people turn everything anybody says into something racist. THAT is what america is these days. universities have to let in a certain amount of black people or else they get sued, even if their test scores are lower and they are less qualified, and white people can't bring up race at all on tv, but blacks can slander whites and say "punk cracker bitch" just because we're white? fuck that! people need to shut up about race. its about the attitude of the individual, not the color of their skin.
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