Keeping the "ponch" off while bulking

ST240 · 11-24-2004, 11:37 PM

Hey guys its been awhile since a posted here because the training has been going great!!

I used to be 140 lbs but i gained all the way up to ~155 (over 4 months) and MOST of it is muscle. Keep in mind this is a huuuuge (and new) thing for me cuz im a super ecto and i could never seem to gain weight before.

But im starting to get somewhat of a ponch or a gut... is there any way to keep this off while bulking? or is this something that must come with bulking and will have to be dealt with later with a cutting phase? suddenly being an ecto doesnt look so bad anymore.... hahaha

Any input?

DimebagDarrell · 11-25-2004, 01:28 AM

eat cleaner. since high school ive gained over 50 lbs but i'm still wearing the same pants i purchased in 10th grade.

yes, it is natural to gain some gut (i have), but you can keep it to a minimum by keeping your sugars down.

**CowPimp** · 11-25-2004, 01:48 AM

Find what your maintenance calories are. Eat 5% more than that. You will gain muscle very slowly, but you won't gain much fat. Also, make sure to eat a lot of low GI carbs that are low on the insulin index, lots of protein, and plenty of EFAs.

mmuscle · 11-25-2004, 09:35 AM

Hi,

A lot of people in bodybuilding say that you need to gain fat to gain muscle and whilst it is true that gaining muscle is easier with a small layer of fat on top, you can still gain without it.

So basically my advice to you is to eat lean, exercise heavy and not to often - and then even with an ecto bodytype you should still be able to grow muscle whilst keeping lean.

I hope this helps

mmuscle

http://www.makemuscle.net

ST240 · 11-25-2004, 08:11 PM

should i knock off the 1001 calorie shakes (252 carbs, 20g fat, 50g whey) i pound back every night??

what about throwing in 20 min of cardio every workout?? or is it mainly in the diet

**CowPimp** · 11-25-2004, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ST240

should i knock off the 1001 calorie shakes (252 carbs, 20g fat, 50g whey) i pound back every night??

what about throwing in 20 min of cardio every workout?? or is it mainly in the diet

It's mainly in the diet. As I said, find out what your maintenance calories are, then increase extremely gradually from there. If you eat 5% above maintenance, you are going to gain very little fat. As soon as weight gain ceases for a couple of weeks, increase your calories another 5%. Also, weight gainer often has a lot of sugar in it, which can lead to increased fat storage due to a variety of reasons.

KarlW · 11-25-2004, 11:23 PM

Personally, I would never use weight gain shakes. As CP said they are usually full of sugar. May as well go eat chips and chocolate it would be cheaper.
Use a good qual low carb protein shake, it will keep your diet cleaner, and if you need more carbs just throw in oatmeal.

**CowPimp** · 11-25-2004, 11:25 PM

Oatmeal, PB, whey, and a blender make a weight gainer shake of champions.

ST240 · 11-26-2004, 06:14 PM

ok... after im done this huge bucket of weight gainer ill buy some quality whey... thx for all the input guys

11-24-2004, 11:37 PM	#1
ST240 ...And justice for all. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 1,390	Keeping the "ponch" off while bulking Hey guys its been awhile since a posted here because the training has been going great!! I used to be 140 lbs but i gained all the way up to ~155 (over 4 months) and MOST of it is muscle. Keep in mind this is a huuuuge (and new) thing for me cuz im a super ecto and i could never seem to gain weight before. But im starting to get somewhat of a ponch or a gut... is there any way to keep this off while bulking? or is this something that must come with bulking and will have to be dealt with later with a cutting phase? suddenly being an ecto doesnt look so bad anymore.... hahaha Any input?

11-25-2004, 01:28 AM	#2
DimebagDarrell Cutting sucks. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Jacksonville Posts: 774 Photos: 4	eat cleaner. since high school ive gained over 50 lbs but i'm still wearing the same pants i purchased in 10th grade. yes, it is natural to gain some gut (i have), but you can keep it to a minimum by keeping your sugars down.
	cutting sucks.

11-25-2004, 01:48 AM	#3
CowPimp Fueled by Testosterone Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 15,428	Find what your maintenance calories are. Eat 5% more than that. You will gain muscle very slowly, but you won't gain much fat. Also, make sure to eat a lot of low GI carbs that are low on the insulin index, lots of protein, and plenty of EFAs.
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11-25-2004, 09:35 AM	#4
mmuscle Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 101 Photos: 1	Keeping lean Hi, A lot of people in bodybuilding say that you need to gain fat to gain muscle and whilst it is true that gaining muscle is easier with a small layer of fat on top, you can still gain without it. So basically my advice to you is to eat lean, exercise heavy and not to often - and then even with an ecto bodytype you should still be able to grow muscle whilst keeping lean. I hope this helps mmuscle http://www.makemuscle.net

11-25-2004, 11:23 PM	#7
KarlW My Little Man Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Sydney Oz Posts: 1,030	Personally, I would never use weight gain shakes. As CP said they are usually full of sugar. May as well go eat chips and chocolate it would be cheaper. Use a good qual low carb protein shake, it will keep your diet cleaner, and if you need more carbs just throw in oatmeal.
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11-25-2004, 08:11 PM	#5
ST240 ...And justice for all. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 1,390	should i knock off the 1001 calorie shakes (252 carbs, 20g fat, 50g whey) i pound back every night?? what about throwing in 20 min of cardio every workout?? or is it mainly in the diet

11-25-2004, 11:25 PM	#8
CowPimp Fueled by Testosterone Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 15,428	Oatmeal, PB, whey, and a blender make a weight gainer shake of champions.
	The only time it's bad to feel the burn is when you're peeing... CowPimp Picks Up Heavy Shit MySpace YouTube Videos

11-26-2004, 06:14 PM	#9
ST240 ...And justice for all. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 1,390	ok... after im done this huge bucket of weight gainer ill buy some quality whey... thx for all the input guys

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