Very IMPORTANT question about TRAINING...PLease Answer

kenshamrock · 01-19-2002, 01:44 PM

Hi.
I have a couple questions for all you guys.
First off is i cant do morning cardio because i have at 7:50 in the morning, so i was woundering if i could do cardio at 3:00 in the after noon right after school, then at like 7pm at night i do my weight training...is that effective or should i just stay with cardio after my weight training workout.

Next question is can you split up your routine through out the day. for example..

lets take my day 5 of weight training for example... its back and biceps ok....could i do back in the morning, then do biceps at night time...would that be any good, or is it just a waste of time and energy...

Sorry if these seem like dumb questions but im just learning...
Thank you for all your help.
Have a good day.

Rdb2 · 01-19-2002, 02:09 PM

hmmm, thats kinda confusing, but do your exercises every other day

kenshamrock · 01-19-2002, 03:15 PM

My split is

day1--chest, calves
day2--quads and hams
day3--rest...just abbs and cardio
day4--tricpes and shoulders
day5--biceps and back
day6--rest
day7--rest
and low intesity cardio after each workout.
so will cardo after school then weight training at 7pm work

01-19-2002, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenshamrock
Hi.
I have a couple questions for all you guys.
First off is i cant do morning cardio because i have at 7:50 in the morning, so i was woundering if i could do cardio at 3:00 in the after noon right after school, then at like 7pm at night i do my weight training...is that effective or should i just stay with cardio after my weight training workout.

Next question is can you split up your routine through out the day. for example..

lets take my day 5 of weight training for example... its back and biceps ok....could i do back in the morning, then do biceps at night time...would that be any good, or is it just a waste of time and energy...

Sorry if these seem like dumb questions but im just learning...
Thank you for all your help.
Have a good day.

*** Yes and yes.

**Prince** · 01-19-2002, 09:30 PM

As far as cardio, doing it in the afternoon is fine. You're better off doing your cardio on separate days from your weight training if you can. If you're going to use a split, I guess it would be fine.

Using a split routine is ideal, most people do not have the time to do one (except pro bodybuilders). If you do, then do it!

kenshamrock · 01-19-2002, 09:48 PM

shrek dude can u give me an example please

**Prince** · 01-19-2002, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kenshamrock
shrek dude can u give me an example please

Example of a split?

Day 1: Morning Chest / Evening Tri's & Shoulders
Day 2: Cardio
Day 3: Morning Quads / Evening Hamstring & Calves
Day 3: Off
Day 4: Cardio
Day 5: Morning Back / Evening Bi's
Day 6: Off
Day 7: Cardio
Day 8: Repeat

Just an example using 3 days of cardio with a 3 day split. If I had the time I would do something like this

If you wanted to do cardio on the same day as your work-out, then change the Cardio days to Off, and do your cardio on a training day.

Of course this all depends on what your goals are, this is just an example.

kenshamrock · 01-20-2002, 12:32 AM

Hey that sounds good but i cant do anything in the morning because i have school.
Would something like this work good.

day1--right after school i do cardio,then at like 8pm i do chest and calves.
day2--right after school at 3pm i do cardio,then at night at 8pm i do quads and hams.
day3--abs then cardio.
day4--right after school cardio then at night i do triceps and shoulders.
day5--right after school is cardio then at night is biceps and back.
day6--rest.
day7--rest.

or would this work better.

day1--right after school cardio then at night chest,,calves.
day2--right after school at 3pm i do cardio,then at night at 8pm i do quads and hams
day3--rest...abd and cardio
day4--right after school i do shoulders and cardio...then at night i do triceps...or other way around what ever u think works best.
day5--right after school back and cardio....then at night i do bicep.
day6---rest
day7---rest.

So what do ya think would work the best??????????????????

kenshamrock · 01-20-2002, 12:38 AM

by the way this is what i wana look like...
well im 16 right now,,and have a very good build..i have good mass and def. i want to just better my size in rippness...heres a photo of what i wana look like.

http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/d...?fighterid=284

or

http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/d...?fighterid=156

by the way thanx for your great help me...really THANX

**gopro** · 01-20-2002, 12:10 PM

KS...splitting up your training into 2 sessions may work well for you as it will afford you two opportunities to get a large postworkout meal in. At 16 you probably will have the recovery ability to handle this, although I would only do this when necessary. As for cardio, if you can't do it in the morning, than do it right after the weights...but only once per day.

kenshamrock · 01-20-2002, 02:05 PM

GOPRO...hey
can u give me a good example of splitting up a split like i said...like twice a day after school and at night acording to my current split...just an example..like something u would do
thanx

scott1963 · 01-22-2002, 10:50 AM

try doing cardio first thing in the morning on empty stomach

**Prince** · 01-22-2002, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scott1963
try doing cardio first thing in the morning on empty stomach

This was popularized quite a bit by Bill Phillips/Body for LIfe, but if I remember correctly, there is no real evidence to prove that this is any better than doing cardio at night, or whenever.

Anyone else have more info?

**gopro** · 01-24-2002, 06:59 AM

C'mon Prince...you know that doing cardio on an empty tummy is far more effective than when you have food in your system.

01-19-2002, 01:44 PM	#1
kenshamrock Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CANADA Posts: 83	Very IMPORTANT question about TRAINING...PLease Answer Hi. I have a couple questions for all you guys. First off is i cant do morning cardio because i have at 7:50 in the morning, so i was woundering if i could do cardio at 3:00 in the after noon right after school, then at like 7pm at night i do my weight training...is that effective or should i just stay with cardio after my weight training workout. Next question is can you split up your routine through out the day. for example.. lets take my day 5 of weight training for example... its back and biceps ok....could i do back in the morning, then do biceps at night time...would that be any good, or is it just a waste of time and energy... Sorry if these seem like dumb questions but im just learning... Thank you for all your help. Have a good day.
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01-19-2002, 03:15 PM	#3
kenshamrock Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CANADA Posts: 83	this might help My split is day1--chest, calves day2--quads and hams day3--rest...just abbs and cardio day4--tricpes and shoulders day5--biceps and back day6--rest day7--rest and low intesity cardio after each workout. so will cardo after school then weight training at 7pm work
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01-19-2002, 09:30 PM	#5
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,988 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	As far as cardio, doing it in the afternoon is fine. You're better off doing your cardio on separate days from your weight training if you can. If you're going to use a split, I guess it would be fine. Using a split routine is ideal, most people do not have the time to do one (except pro bodybuilders). If you do, then do it!
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01-19-2002, 09:48 PM	#6
kenshamrock Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CANADA Posts: 83	shrek dude shrek dude can u give me an example please
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01-20-2002, 12:32 AM	#8
kenshamrock Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CANADA Posts: 83	Shrek dude Hey that sounds good but i cant do anything in the morning because i have school. Would something like this work good. day1--right after school i do cardio,then at like 8pm i do chest and calves. day2--right after school at 3pm i do cardio,then at night at 8pm i do quads and hams. day3--abs then cardio. day4--right after school cardio then at night i do triceps and shoulders. day5--right after school is cardio then at night is biceps and back. day6--rest. day7--rest. or would this work better. day1--right after school cardio then at night chest,,calves. day2--right after school at 3pm i do cardio,then at night at 8pm i do quads and hams day3--rest...abd and cardio day4--right after school i do shoulders and cardio...then at night i do triceps...or other way around what ever u think works best. day5--right after school back and cardio....then at night i do bicep. day6---rest day7---rest. So what do ya think would work the best??????????????????
	obsession is just a word the lazy use to describe the DEDICATED

01-19-2002, 02:09 PM	#2
Rdb2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: n/a Posts: 23	hmmm, thats kinda confusing, but do your exercises every other day

01-20-2002, 12:38 AM	#9
kenshamrock Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CANADA Posts: 83	shrek dude by the way this is what i wana look like... well im 16 right now,,and have a very good build..i have good mass and def. i want to just better my size in rippness...heres a photo of what i wana look like. http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/d...?fighterid=284 or http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/d...?fighterid=156 by the way thanx for your great help me...really THANX
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01-20-2002, 12:10 PM	#10
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida Posts: 10,523	KS...splitting up your training into 2 sessions may work well for you as it will afford you two opportunities to get a large postworkout meal in. At 16 you probably will have the recovery ability to handle this, although I would only do this when necessary. As for cardio, if you can't do it in the morning, than do it right after the weights...but only once per day.
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01-20-2002, 02:05 PM	#11
kenshamrock Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CANADA Posts: 83	hey gopro GOPRO...hey can u give me a good example of splitting up a split like i said...like twice a day after school and at night acording to my current split...just an example..like something u would do thanx
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01-22-2002, 10:50 AM	#12
scott1963 Junior Member Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: ne Posts: 38	try doing cardio first thing in the morning on empty stomach

01-24-2002, 06:59 AM	#14
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida Posts: 10,523	C'mon Prince...you know that doing cardio on an empty tummy is far more effective than when you have food in your system.
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