Dips, more dips, and SLDL

Skyliner · 01-20-2002, 03:42 AM

When performing Bar Dips, is it better to use a wide grip or parallel? I know it's personal preferences, but which grip will emphasize the chest more?

Speaking of Dips, are BENCH DIPS mainly a Tricep workout or do they work on our chest as well?

Is is possible to isolate the hamstrings completely while doing SLDL and keep the Traps from doing minimum work?

**Prince** · 01-20-2002, 09:08 AM

The wider you go on dips the more they emphasize your chest.

A narrow grip dip will be felt mostly in your tri's.

archer · 01-20-2002, 09:23 AM

I agree with Prince ....I have two stations and when I use the wide position the lower peck is extremely sore the next day
with the nrrow and elbows in close you hit the tris

try a set to max one way and then the other you 'll feel it

good luck

**gopro** · 01-20-2002, 12:05 PM

Yes, a wider grip will emphasize your chest more, as will lowering your body further. Chest works harder during the first 2/3 of lifts like dips and bench press, while the tris tend to take over during the final 1/3, or lockout of the lift.

SLDL is not really an isolation exercise, as it uses "muscle synergy" to perform the movement. SLDL will call upon many of the back muscles to stabilize your body through the lift, along with the gluteus, hips, erectors, and even the calves. However, properly performed, the SLDL will hit those hammies hard!

Scotty the Body · 01-22-2002, 02:06 PM

Gopro had once told me that putting a board or a plate under your toes while doing sldl will help to hit your hams more if your not feeling it.
I tried it and it did work for me, I felt the stretch more in my hams and didn't have to lower the weight down as much.

I've found that bench dips hit my tri's more than my chest.

**gopro** · 01-23-2002, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scotty the Body
Gopro had once told me that putting a board or a plate under your toes while doing sldl will help to hit your hams more if your not feeling it.
I tried it and it did work for me, I felt the stretch more in my hams and didn't have to lower the weight down as much.

I've found that bench dips hit my tri's more than my chest.

I agree with you about bench dips...they are much more a tri exercise than a chest exercise.

As for the SLDL...yes, the board really does increase effectiveness

Pemburu · 01-23-2002, 06:20 PM

Quote:

When performing Bar Dips, is it better to use a wide grip or parallel? I know it's personal preferences, but which grip will emphasize the chest more?

What everyone else already said, but one thing more. Remain upright with a shoulder width grip for triceps. If you're leaning forward you're gonna start pushing those pecs.
jc

**gopro** · 01-24-2002, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pemburu

What everyone else already said, but one thing more. Remain upright with a shoulder width grip for triceps. If you're leaning forward you're gonna start pushing those pecs.
jc

Good advice

Rick C · 01-24-2002, 10:36 AM

Wide grip dips with a slight foward lean is great for spreading out your chest and defining you lower pecs

Pemburu · 01-24-2002, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick C
Wide grip dips with a slight foward lean is great for spreading out your chest and defining you lower pecs

You trying to start something there Mr. Rick??

Rick C · 01-25-2002, 07:30 AM

I honestly have no idea what you are talking about.

Scotty the Body · 01-25-2002, 07:46 PM

When people start talkin upper/lower pecs, some get the idea that the pec is more than one muscle.

**gopro** · 01-26-2002, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scotty the Body
When people start talkin upper/lower pecs, some get the idea that the pec is more than one muscle.

It is...pec major/pec minor

01-20-2002, 03:42 AM	#1
Skyliner Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Whisper in the Wind Posts: 265	Dips, more dips, and SLDL When performing Bar Dips, is it better to use a wide grip or parallel? I know it's personal preferences, but which grip will emphasize the chest more? Speaking of Dips, are BENCH DIPS mainly a Tricep workout or do they work on our chest as well? Is is possible to isolate the hamstrings completely while doing SLDL and keep the Traps from doing minimum work?
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01-20-2002, 09:08 AM	#2
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,931 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	The wider you go on dips the more they emphasize your chest. A narrow grip dip will be felt mostly in your tri's.
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gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Florida Posts: 10,521	Yes, a wider grip will emphasize your chest more, as will lowering your body further. Chest works harder during the first 2/3 of lifts like dips and bench press, while the tris tend to take over during the final 1/3, or lockout of the lift. SLDL is not really an isolation exercise, as it uses "muscle synergy" to perform the movement. SLDL will call upon many of the back muscles to stabilize your body through the lift, along with the gluteus, hips, erectors, and even the calves. However, properly performed, the SLDL will hit those hammies hard!
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01-22-2002, 02:06 PM	#5
Scotty the Body I'm Dead Sexxxxy!! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 4,970	Gopro had once told me that putting a board or a plate under your toes while doing sldl will help to hit your hams more if your not feeling it. I tried it and it did work for me, I felt the stretch more in my hams and didn't have to lower the weight down as much. I've found that bench dips hit my tri's more than my chest.
	Cool

01-25-2002, 07:46 PM	#12
Scotty the Body I'm Dead Sexxxxy!! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 4,970	When people start talkin upper/lower pecs, some get the idea that the pec is more than one muscle.
	Cool

01-20-2002, 09:23 AM	#3
archer Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 34	I agree with Prince ....I have two stations and when I use the wide position the lower peck is extremely sore the next day with the nrrow and elbows in close you hit the tris try a set to max one way and then the other you 'll feel it good luck

01-24-2002, 10:36 AM	#9
Rick C Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: East Coast Posts: 30	Wide grip dips with a slight foward lean is great for spreading out your chest and defining you lower pecs

01-25-2002, 07:30 AM	#11
Rick C Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: East Coast Posts: 30	I honestly have no idea what you are talking about.

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