Thread: Big Arms!!

Fancy way of avoiding the work if you buy into it. Funny, none of the most massive 'builders do. It's only one school of thought, with a new theory poppin' up weekly. I'm out before the masses circle the wagons, initiate the inevitable defense. That's what i like about them-equal parts open-minded and conversational.

Avoiding the work?

It may be one theory, and you may disagree with it, but to trivialize the opinions of those who do ("fancy way of avoiding the work") by implying that they are lazy (that is my perception of your comment) is simply a low-class tactic that avoids the discussion itself and points to the person's character (laziness). It is, in a sense, an Ad Hominem attack, and therefore a logical fallacy...

I'm out before the masses circle the wagons, initiate the inevitable defense.

You just insulted people who have a different opinion, it is only appropriate that we defend our position while you degrade our opinions by insulting our work ethic.

Originally Posted by camarosuper6

Funny, all these massive bodybuilders could grow from mowing lawns with all the anabolics they take.

Give them credit, they do have to work fuckin' hard to get where they've gotten.

Your right TCD. I dont mean to demean them. Im just trying to make a point about their routines, knowledge, etc.

this mmuscle guy is the same guy that posted something about a 60 set shoulder routine...condoned by "Ahnaald"

Originally Posted by camarosuper6

BTW, good article Randy.

Thanks, I thought you might like it.

Originally Posted by Randy

I found an article that backs up Duncan, Camaro and I believe Cows recent discussion about working Arms.. I pulled this article from tripod.com

Bicep Curls and other variations of bicep exercises:

Tricep Extension, kickbacks and other variations of the tricep exercise:
- Tricep extension are not functional in terms of daily action such as pushing and pressing.
- More tricep muscle is activated during functional exercise such as bench presses and dips. Heavier loads are lifted by the triceps during these exercises and they have to work much harder.
- Bench presses and dips are more functional and far more effective than isolated tricep exercises and they activate more muscle fibers than "fluffy" isolated tricep exercises.
- If you are doing bench presses, dips and push ups there is no need to train the triceps again and you will not gain any further results.

Are you saying you dont think different types of tricep extensions with a rope are benificial?

Originally Posted by WilliamB

Are you saying you dont think different types of tricep extensions with a rope are benificial?

William,

The information I posted was just an article of another perspective of how the arm muscles can be exercised.

If you believe the article, and the opinion stated within it then it is saying that for triceps you benefit more in doing bench presses (close grip of course), dips, and pushups. It indicates that if you are doing those then you will not gain any futher results doing any other tricep exercise such as the rope extensions.

Personally, I try never to stick to one method. I am always rotating my routine and trying different things. I like to change all my exercises every 6 weeks. All I can say is try this method and see if you notice more gains than doing the rope extensions and anything else you have been doing for triceps.
I know for a fact that the rope works great. I also know that close grip benching, dips and pushups are three #1 exercises for the triceps.

Originally Posted by WilliamB

Are you saying you dont think different types of tricep extensions with a rope are benificial?

I think it's a good idea to incorporate pressing and extension movements into your tricep routine. Then there are Tate and JM presses, which are sort of a combination of the two types of movements.

Originally Posted by Pumpster

Fancy way of avoiding the work if you buy into it. Funny, none of the most massive 'builders do. It's only one school of thought, with a new theory poppin' up weekly. I'm out before the masses circle the wagons, initiate the inevitable defense. That's what i like about them-equal parts open-minded and conversational.

Why does everyone equate lowering direct arm work with laziness when they support doing more direct arm work? That is nonsense. Arms are the easiest bodypart to work. If you want to consider someone lazy, then how about people who do countless sets for their arms and never step into the squat rack?

Furthermore, bodybuilder's arm routines have no bearing on me. I'm a totally natural lifter. Arms are very easily overtrained in a natural lifter. However, for someone on all kinds of anabolics, their rate of recovery surpasses the natural lifter by leaps and bounds. They can get away with far more direct arm work without overtraining.

Direct arm work is good, but only to supplement a good base of compound movements. That is my opinion, but you can do all the bicep supersets you want.

Funny how the original poster hasn't responded yet.