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Old 12-09-2004, 06:03 PM   #1
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Does anyone here ever train til failure? I do. Would it be better not to? I lift a lot less when I train til failure though to give my muscles ample time to heal.
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Old 12-09-2004, 06:05 PM   #2
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Old 12-09-2004, 06:37 PM   #3
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Old 12-09-2004, 07:26 PM   #5
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my workouts don't usually last 30 mins, LOL!!!
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Old 12-09-2004, 07:33 PM   #6
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I train a few reps shy of failure.



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Old 12-09-2004, 07:39 PM   #7
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I train a few reps shy of failure.
I do the same most of the time...



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Old 12-09-2004, 08:23 PM   #8
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PreMier, LAM -- Why would you guys choose to not give it your all on each and every set and go to utter failure?



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PreMier, LAM -- Why would you guys choose to not give it your all on each and every set and go to utter failure?
I train w/o a spotter I'm not trying to get hurt...



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Old 12-09-2004, 08:30 PM   #10
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I train w/o a spotter I'm not trying to get hurt...
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Old 12-09-2004, 08:30 PM   #11
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I train w/o a spotter I'm not trying to get hurt...
As do I. Not to mention that if I dont train to 'utter failure', doesnt mean I dont train with intensity or give it my all..

You dont have to go to failure for hypertrophy to occur.



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Old 12-09-2004, 08:31 PM   #12
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As do I. Not to mention that if I dont train to 'utter failure', doesnt mean I dont train with intensity or give it my all..

You dont have to go to failure for hypertrophy to occur.
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Old 12-09-2004, 08:45 PM   #13
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As do I. Not to mention that if I dont train to 'utter failure', doesnt mean I dont train with intensity or give it my all..

You dont have to go to failure for hypertrophy to occur.
so whats the secret to getting results training shy of failiure?
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I train w/o a spotter I'm not trying to get hurt...
so if you don't have a spotter you'll get hurt? The only exercise i need a spotter on while going to failure is benchin'.



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Old 12-09-2004, 09:24 PM   #16
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I train w/o a spotter I'm not trying to get hurt...
If I have a spotter I train to failure. If I don't have a spotter I usually train with dumb bells as my odds of survival are a little better if I hit failure in the middle of a rep



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Traditionally, in the past, I trained to failure, or maybe one repetition shy, on every working set I did. Lately I have been trying the cumulative fatigure approach, and I really enjoy it. That is, I try to match the same weight and number of repetitions on all sets for the same exercise. Basically, I try to hit failure on the last set I do with the exercise. It allows me to condition myself more, therefore increasing my GPP, while simultaneously giving my CNS some leeway.



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Old 12-10-2004, 02:00 AM   #18
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I think as I start over again in Jan I will not train to failure anymore but rather hit it as you just said CowPimp. I'm worried about getting injured again and at 45 it takes waaaaaaaay too long to heal. I didn't notice a bicep injury as it occured and kept on going. I am now 4 months later ready to start over. I will not do anything to lose that kind of time ever again. It sucked.
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Old 12-10-2004, 04:06 PM   #19
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so whats the secret to getting results training shy of failiure?
I dont understand your question? I train for hypertrophy(6-9reps). Sometimes I will mis judge, and fail on a set though.



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Old 12-10-2004, 04:17 PM   #20
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I train to failure except on incline leg press without a spot because sometimes what comes down doesn't necessarily go back up! I've been pinned before.
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so if you don't have a spotter you'll get hurt? The only exercise i need a spotter on while going to failure is benchin'.
I guess I mistated that. I don't train to failure on any pressing movements...



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Failure = Success

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Traditionally, in the past, I trained to failure, or maybe one repetition shy, on every working set I did. Lately I have been trying the cumulative fatigure approach, and I really enjoy it. That is, I try to match the same weight and number of repetitions on all sets for the same exercise. Basically, I try to hit failure on the last set I do with the exercise. It allows me to condition myself more, therefore increasing my GPP, while simultaneously giving my CNS some leeway.
Ya beat me to it CP...I was gonna use this as an example as well...I need to hit the boards more often you beat me to all the good posts LOL.

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I don't purposely but I have 2 times, once while DB Benching, and other doing bench press on the smith machine (Smith sucks ass if you fail w/o a spotter...)
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I don't purposely but I have 2 times, once while DB Benching, and other doing bench press on the smith machine (Smith sucks ass if you fail w/o a spotter...)
A)why are you benching on a smith?
B)just spin the bar and it locks into place...easiest thing to bench on without a spotter...getting stuck under a oly BB with some lbs on there is another story...that sux.



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Training to failure is ironic if you think about it; your training until you fail.



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