machinehead

Hello,

i'm training about 4 months, for biceps i always did barbell curls as the first exercise (i do 3 exercises, each exercise 12,10,8,6). before 3 days i did barbell curls 60 degrees in this way : http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...nclineRow.html
i feld that this exercise is harder for me.
what is better? regular barbell curls or incline 60 degrees barbell curls?

ChrisROCK

huh? That's isn't a barbell curl...it's an incline row... It's a BACK exercise...which obviously recruits use of the biceps... but by no means is that an incline curl!

Furthermore, I've never even heard of "Barbell Incline Curls". Dumbbell incline curls....YES....barbell...no!

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Phred

Well the link you cite is for a T-Bar row not an incline curl. Here is a link for an incline curl http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...clineCurl.html

As far as regular BB curl vs incline curl - BB curls are a good mass builder and inlcine curls pull the bicep and allow for a more isolated movement (with lighter wts). IMO - It is good to encorporate BB and DB movements.

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ChrisROCK

That's an incline DUMBBELL curl... The thread title says Incline BABBELL curl...which i've never heard of. Maybe he mis-typed it!

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Newt

T-Bar

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machinehead

you didnt understand me! :-)
i ment that i gave this link is the example for the bench, 60 degrees bench, the exercise is like that, i lie on the bench and do the curls.
i dont have any picture for example.

machinehead

i got a pic:



but i do this in 60 degrees not on 0 degrees

ChrisROCK

i see sorry.

I think both are critical exercises in that case. Maybe not in the same workout, but they should both be worked in. Barbell curls are critical for big mass... Incline curls are great as well...good to hit the bis from an angle...keep them guessing.

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machinehead

untill the last week i did those exercise:
barbell curls
dumbell incline curls from mid position to sufination
in the last week:
barbell curls
barbell preachers curls
dumbell incline curls from mid position to sufination
in the last 3 days i did this:
barbell curls
barbell preachers curl
and the exercise that i talked about, i think i can call for this exercise:
Incline Lying High Bench Barbell Curl

ChrisROCK

That's not your typical "Incline curl"... That's a nice variation to include from time to time...but I wouldn't make it a staple of my routine. For me, it puts too much strain on my anterior delts.

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machinehead

i think in this case, u right about that this exercise contains the anterior delts. but when you do this in incline (45-60 degrees) the exercise works more on the biceps than the anterior delts.

ChrisROCK

yes, i agree...but the nature of hanging the weights down like that, WILL STRESS the shoulder... Trust me. For someone like myself who has had his share of shoulder ailments...this isn't something i could use regularly...thats all i was saying. Perhaps it will work for you.

It's not a mass building exercise, however...it's really a variation of a concentration curl. It's more of a sculpting exercise...for building peak!

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machinehead

thanks.
what variations so should i do this on my biceps exercise:
1.
standing barbell curls 3 sets
barbell preachers curls 3 sets
dumbell curls from mid position to sufination 3 sets
incline lying high bench barbell curls 3 sets
2.
standing barbell curls 4 sets
barbell preachers curls 4 sets
incline lying high bench barbell curls 4 sets

3.
any other suggestions?

ChrisROCK

My first impression is that 12 sets is too much. But hey, you have to figure out what set/rep range works for you. For me, I think that would be overtraining... I like to keep my sets in the 7 to 9 range....and after back work....in the 4 to 6 range. That's sufficient after bombing my back and pre-exhausting my bis.

Try this out:

Standing Barbell Curls: 3 sets ( 8 to 10 reps)
Preacher Curls w/Ez-curl: 3 x (8 to 10)
Lying Incline Hammer curls: 3 x (10 to 12)

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machinehead

10x, i'll try this too.
my problem is that my biceps didn't grow as i wanted to, it still small, so that why i trying variations of exercises. (i satisfied from my big muscles)

ChrisROCK

are you working out to failure with your bis?

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machinehead

yep, every exercise i work out to faliure, but the problem , i talked with people that tell me they feel the biceps that they going to explode. i dont feel this and i dont have any doms in the small muscles (tri,bi,shoulders) for example i have strong doms on the chest day after.

Newt

John H. will offer to give you a rear spot on this lift.

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ChrisROCK

Maybe that's your thang pal... I'll pass!

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