Thread: Weight Training Q

Muscles don't grow in the gym, and being cut is a function of low body fat.

Originally Posted by Duncans Donuts

Muscles don't grow in the gym, and being cut is a function of low body fat.

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Originally Posted by Duncans Donuts

Muscles don't grow in the gym, and being cut is a function of low body fat.

He's right, but I think I know what you are asking. I like to wait untill my breathing gets back to normal. I preffer not to do my cardio while lifting.

Originally Posted by EL Colombiano

hi,when weight training how meny min between sets sould you wait if you want your muscles to grow and if you want to cut up?

Diet is key...manage your diet properly.

As for rest depending on what you are doing. If you are attempting to go very heavy and stay with low reps I'd say anywhere from 2-4 minutes but if you are chasing the burn so to speak and keeping a higher rep range then 1-2 minutes is fine.

I just started a new routine, and I get between 6-10 reps one set of each excersise. There is no rest between sets, its like one big super set. Its kind of interesting. Almost puked and passed out the last time.

Guess it just depends on your routine, and personal prefference at the time. I used to do one where you rested until you felt ready to do anotherone.

Originally Posted by Twigz

I just started a new routine, and I get between 6-10 reps one set of each excersise. There is no rest between sets, its like one big super set. Its kind of interesting. Almost puked and passed out the last time.

Guess it just depends on your routine, and personal prefference at the time. I used to do one where you rested until you felt ready to do anotherone.

To do this every once in a while is fine but as a standard routine done every day I don't think it is as good. Its good to do it to shock the body and change things up.

Originally Posted by DeadBolt

To do this every once in a while is fine but as a standard routine done every day I don't think it is as good. Its good to do it to shock the body and change things up.

you are right, you need rest in between to gather your strenght so you dont run out of fuel and start doing your reps all wrong. Every once in a while is ok, but not all the time. If you are cutting and working with high reps then it is ok to do it more often then on bulking.

Originally Posted by Twigz

I just started a new routine, and I get between 6-10 reps one set of each excersise. There is no rest between sets, its like one big super set. Its kind of interesting. Almost puked and passed out the last time.

Guess it just depends on your routine, and personal prefference at the time. I used to do one where you rested until you felt ready to do anotherone.

I disagree with the previous two posters. Circuit training type routines are great for conditioning yourself. If you've seen P-funk's workouts, he uses a lot of 30 second rest intervals, or single arm/leg exercises with no rest in between appendages. He's damned big too.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

I disagree with the previous two posters. Circuit training type routines are great for conditioning yourself. If you've seen P-funk's workouts, he uses a lot of 30 second rest intervals, or single arm/leg exercises with no rest in between appendages. He's damned big too.

30 seconds is alot more then 0 seconds though. Yes I agree ciruit training is awsome and many find gains from it but for some it is just not as optimal then some other options out there. Everyone is different, you just need to find what works best for you.

Originally Posted by DeadBolt

30 seconds is alot more then 0 seconds though. Yes I agree ciruit training is awsome and many find gains from it but for some it is just not as optimal then some other options out there. Everyone is different, you just need to find what works best for you.

How is it less optimal? Please explain.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

How is it less optimal? Please explain.

For some it is not optimal...they don't get the best results out of it. Yes you and p-funk have gotten great gains performing your lifts this way but some may not. This is why I said it may not be optimal for some. This is also why I ended my statement with...

Originally Posted by DeadBolt

Everyone is different, you just need to find what works best for you.

Originally Posted by DeadBolt

For some it is not optimal...they don't get the best results out of it. Yes you and p-funk have gotten great gains performing your lifts this way but some may not. This is why I said it may not be optimal for some. This is also why I ended my statement with...

I don't think it has much effect on gains one way or the other, no matter the person. I just think it's better for the cardiovascular system and overall health.

I do not perform this routine everyday. Currently my routine looks like this.

Routine 1
Squats
Calf Raises
Flat Bench
Dips (negative only 10sec)
Pull Ups (negative only 10sec)
Military Press
Barbell Curls
Deadlifts

Routine 2
Leg Press
Reverse Calf Raises
Inclined Bench Press
Dips (negative only 10sec)
Bent Barbell Rows
Upright Rows
Incline Bench Dumbell Curls
Deadlifts

I take at least 3 days of rest between the routines, to fully recooperate. Its a max effort to failure on everthing, one set for each excersize, shoot for between 6-10 reps. Everthing I do is done in strict form, why do it any other way, but to injure yourself (in my opinion). Yes this routine is very draining, and intense, but push yourself to the limit, and you can really feel that you have worked out. I'll say this, the next day I felt as though a train had hit me. It was a great feeling, I think ill keep at this until i find something better, or it kills me. Also, it gives you a great secondary arobic workout, breathing heavy, sweating like a pig, heart racing, all the good stuff in life, well maybe not all.
Like you and I both said, everyone is different, and everyone has to find there own way of doing things to best suit them.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

I don't think it has much effect on gains one way or the other, no matter the person. I just think it's better for the cardiovascular system and overall health.

Now I know why we were disagree'ing. I was refering to doing your weight training this way...not as a cardio experience but rather as a muscle building experience. You were refering to your style of cardio...I should have known thats what you were talkin about....my bad bro.

What are Reverse Calf Raises?

Originally Posted by Duncans Donuts

Muscles don't grow in the gym

What if I work out at home?

Originally Posted by Vieope

What if I work out at home?

DOH, no DB we are still not on the same page. I do this as my weight training. working pretty well to. The cardio part just comes along with it, do to the fast pace. Hopefully that explains it.


Reverse Calf Raises = same as calf raises, but you put the heels of your feet on the platform. Then you lower your toes down, and then push your hells into the platform to bring your toes up again. I find it really starts to burn in the front of your shin. I'll try to find a picture for ya.

Originally Posted by Twigz

I do not perform this routine everyday. Currently my routine looks like this.

Routine 1
Squats
Calf Raises
Flat Bench
Dips (negative only 10sec)
Pull Ups (negative only 10sec)
Military Press
Barbell Curls
Deadlifts

Routine 2
Leg Press
Reverse Calf Raises
Inclined Bench Press
Dips (negative only 10sec)
Bent Barbell Rows
Upright Rows
Incline Bench Dumbell Curls
Deadlifts

I take at least 3 days of rest between the routines, to fully recooperate. Its a max effort to failure on everthing, one set for each excersize, shoot for between 6-10 reps. Everthing I do is done in strict form, why do it any other way, but to injure yourself (in my opinion). Yes this routine is very draining, and intense, but push yourself to the limit, and you can really feel that you have worked out. I'll say this, the next day I felt as though a train had hit me. It was a great feeling, I think ill keep at this until i find something better, or it kills me. Also, it gives you a great secondary arobic workout, breathing heavy, sweating like a pig, heart racing, all the good stuff in life, well maybe not all.
Like you and I both said, everyone is different, and everyone has to find there own way of doing things to best suit them.

I like this routine.

I agree with Cowpimp. There is nothing wrong with circut training at all. I like to cycle my training through different programs and I go through phases of circut training. I think it is great. Don't think you can get big doing this program?? I got a buddy that lifts strongman style and he does circuts like........Chain Drag, farmers walk, atlas stone carry........He is just about as big as you can get.

Originally Posted by Twigz

DOH, no DB we are still not on the same page. I do this as my weight training. working pretty well to. The cardio part just comes along with it, do to the fast pace. Hopefully that explains it.

I was refering to cow in that statement...the callistetics he does not his weight training.

As for your training...well hell if it works it works keep it up if you are getting no gains then maybe its not working.

I know I use to train that way and never experinced results...not even as a noob so I always stayed away from it.

Originally Posted by DeadBolt

Now I know why we were disagree'ing. I was refering to doing your weight training this way...not as a cardio experience but rather as a muscle building experience. You were refering to your style of cardio...I should have known thats what you were talkin about....my bad bro.

That's not really what I meant. We are disagreeing because we believe that circuit weight training has a different effect on hypertrophy relative to timed rest intervals. I beg to differ. I think you can gain nearly identical amounts of muscle mass using a circuit training routine compared to a standard session where you have timed rest intervals. The added benefit is that you improve cardiovascular health and muscular endurance.

There are exceptions. For pure strength training, it is probably best, at least for really heavy sets, to have extended timed rest intervals. However, circuit training is also a great addition to a strength training routine because it improves general physical preparedness.

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