current fat loss progress

419Para_Dice · 01-06-2005, 09:01 AM

Hey guys i have got a question about my current bf loss progress

ive lost about 6 lbs, not much showing loss in inches, but my friends and i can both see visible fat loss in the love handles, and lower stomach.

my question is, i seem to have lost this weight very quickly. its never happend like this before, but its been about 7 days, and im down 6 lbs.

Now i dont know how this happends like this, im using lipoderm ultra, and L-carnitine to try to kill burn off my lower abdominal/back fat, and eating a low carb 1300 calorie diet.

needless to say this is cool, i mean dropping weight this quickly, but i have two questions, first..

1. do you think i am losing muscle, i dont think i am but im not sure because i mean i can see visible fat loss in the love handle/lowerback area

2. do you think i am losing too fast to where it will be bad

thanks guys, halp he appreatiated..

-Efrin

**IainDaniel** · 01-06-2005, 09:04 AM

Couple of Q's

What are your Current stats?

1300 cals seems pretty low- but not know your stats it is hard to tell

6lbs if this is the first week of the diet isn't unlikely. Prolly alot of water. If it is 6 lbs later on I might be concerned about muscle loss.

bulletproof1 · 01-06-2005, 09:12 AM

unless you weigh 130 pounds, you are not eating enough. you have to eat to burn fat. starving yourself will kill your lbm.

sgtneo · 01-06-2005, 09:36 AM

questions whats lbm?

thanks

neo

bulletproof1 · 01-06-2005, 09:42 AM

lean body mass

sgtneo · 01-06-2005, 09:43 AM

i thought to be lean you had to have low body fat which ive been told i have so eating less would decrease your body fat is that not a good thing then?

Neo

bulletproof1 · 01-06-2005, 09:46 AM

the whole purpose in cutting is to lower your body fat while protecting your muscle. if you try to lose weight by starving yourself your body will use muscle for energy. make sense?

sgtneo · 01-06-2005, 09:53 AM

yeah i see your point all making sense now wouldnt a bit of cardio help lower body fat and keep musclerather than starving yourself

Neo

bulletproof1 · 01-06-2005, 09:59 AM

absolutely. cardio raises metabolism and so does eating. most are too lazy to do cardio though.

sgtneo · 01-06-2005, 10:04 AM

i loved doing cardio but i was told that i am very lean and need to bulk up and to do so ive got to stop cardio so i have done that but when i first started at the gym it did me wonders

Neo

bulletproof1 · 01-06-2005, 10:05 AM

cardio is the key to fat loss. personally, i think it sucks ass.

BulkMeUp · 01-06-2005, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sgtneo

i loved doing cardio but i was told that i am very lean and need to bulk up and to do so ive got to stop cardio so i have done that but when i first started at the gym it did me wonders

Neo

The bottom line is 'Cals in, Cals out'. If you dont intake adequate cals you wont grow. If you take in less then you may burn fat. If you take in too little, your body may burn fat but also muscle (which is a ready source of enegry compared to fat) as well as you will start to have other probs in the longer term. On the other hand. If you take in a huge amount of cals on an unclean diet, you can put on more fat than muscle. So knowing your diet and understanding your cal intake is crucial.

BulkMeUp · 01-06-2005, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bulletproof1

cardio is the key to fat loss. personally, i think it sucks ass.

Dont let the cardio police hear you say that. Some ppl are cardio maniacs. But i hate cardio as well.

But IMO, diet is the key to fat loss.

On my last cut i only did a few weeks of cardio and then stopped as i was loosing without much of a prob. One can adjust their cals to such a certain level and make their training more intense to create a cal deficit. Worked for me.

sgtneo · 01-06-2005, 10:15 AM

yeah i kinda get the picture as i do try and eat alot more healthy and have stoped the cardio so i dont burn what i put on. i definatly dont want to take in all those calories in an unhealthy way i eat alot of roles and sandwhiches, pasta chicken and fish when i can. also roles have good fillings like ham and salad, subways etc. im just as of yet not as precise on my diet as alot of you are which i will need to sit down very soon and work out a managable diet which i can afford as i can task my parents to be buying me all this food on top of the normal dinners they cook me.

thanks for the help and i will definatly be sorting out my diet and posting it here so it can be ripped to shreds lol

Neo

419Para_Dice · 01-06-2005, 10:16 AM

well i actually eat about 1500-1600 calories/day, because i wanted to be in a calorie defecit of 500 calories/day, which would eaqual a lb in a week, but then i also do 2 30 minute cardio sessions, at which time a apply the lipoderm ultra.

what do you guys think i should do?

-Efrin

bulletproof1 · 01-06-2005, 10:19 AM

how much do you weigh ?

bulletproof1 · 01-06-2005, 10:20 AM

i agree diet is crucial, but when your cals cant go any lower, then you must rely on cardio.

419Para_Dice · 01-06-2005, 10:21 AM

i am 6' 2.5'', im about 19-20% bf. most of my fat is on my lower abs, and lower back, and butt.

-Efrin

419Para_Dice · 01-06-2005, 10:22 AM

205.75 lbs this morning

-Efrin

419Para_Dice · 01-06-2005, 10:25 AM

do you guys think i should up my calorie intake to 2000?

-Efrin

bulletproof1 · 01-06-2005, 10:28 AM

205 eating 1500 cals a day?

dont eat less than 10x your body weight.

truth · 01-06-2005, 10:30 AM

too low on calories, para.

you probably want to be at around 1900calories at least

i'm starting monday, i'm about 180lbs, 17%bf, and will be consuming 1839calories

and most of that weight you lost is water weight.

what's your training program look like

truth · 01-06-2005, 10:31 AM

holy shit, you're eating 1300 calories at your current stats? say hi to catabolism for me, would you??

unless you're taking PH's, you're starving your body, and that is NOT the way to lose fat and preserve muscle.

Tom_B · 01-06-2005, 10:32 AM

Porbably I doubt your maintenance would be 2000 , 2100 (well I'm guessing since you said you wanted to be in a caloric defict of 500) when your 200lbs , I'm 130lbs and my maintenance is 2500 calories.. How tall are you?
If you want you could probably keep your calories 1500-1600 just incorporate some refeeds into your diet , maybe 2-3 times a week if your metabolism is indeed that slow..

419Para_Dice · 01-06-2005, 10:32 AM

when i wake up i do a 30 minute brisk pace walk (power walk) on the treadmill, and i do the same thing later that evening.

-Efrin

419Para_Dice · 01-06-2005, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom_B

Porbably I doubt your maintenance would be 2000 , 2100 (well I'm guessing since you said you wanted to be in a caloric defict of 500) when your 200lbs , I'm 130lbs and my maintenance is 2500 calories.. How tall are you?
If you want you could probably keep your calories 1500-1600 just incorporate some refeeds into your diet , maybe 2-3 times a week if your metabolism is indeed that slow..

what are refeeds?

-Efrin

Tom_B · 01-06-2005, 10:34 AM

You also lifts weights right?.. probably one of the most important thing when it comes to fat loss, second to diet of course

Tom_B · 01-06-2005, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 419Para_Dice

what are refeeds?

-Efrin

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...ad.php?t=25250 (Refeeds and Leptin)

419Para_Dice · 01-06-2005, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom_B

You also lifts weights right?.. probably one of the most important thing when it comes to fat loss, second to diet of course

i havent been too much lately, because i just got done with x-mas break, and then this week (we were supposed to go back to school) but then weve been out of school now for 4 days of the week because of snow

-Efrin

01-06-2005, 09:01 AM	#1
419Para_Dice Saiyan Prince Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 120 Photos: 1	current fat loss progress Hey guys i have got a question about my current bf loss progress ive lost about 6 lbs, not much showing loss in inches, but my friends and i can both see visible fat loss in the love handles, and lower stomach. my question is, i seem to have lost this weight very quickly. its never happend like this before, but its been about 7 days, and im down 6 lbs. Now i dont know how this happends like this, im using lipoderm ultra, and L-carnitine to try to kill burn off my lower abdominal/back fat, and eating a low carb 1300 calorie diet. needless to say this is cool, i mean dropping weight this quickly, but i have two questions, first.. 1. do you think i am losing muscle, i dont think i am but im not sure because i mean i can see visible fat loss in the love handle/lowerback area 2. do you think i am losing too fast to where it will be bad thanks guys, halp he appreatiated.. -Efrin
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01-06-2005, 09:04 AM	#2
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 15,854	Couple of Q's What are your Current stats? 1300 cals seems pretty low- but not know your stats it is hard to tell 6lbs if this is the first week of the diet isn't unlikely. Prolly alot of water. If it is 6 lbs later on I might be concerned about muscle loss.
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01-06-2005, 10:16 AM	#15
419Para_Dice Saiyan Prince Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 120 Photos: 1	well i actually eat about 1500-1600 calories/day, because i wanted to be in a calorie defecit of 500 calories/day, which would eaqual a lb in a week, but then i also do 2 30 minute cardio sessions, at which time a apply the lipoderm ultra. what do you guys think i should do? -Efrin
	"chaos is a way of life, order is the dream of man" http://re2.mm-b.yimg.com/image/540986275 currently bulking

01-06-2005, 10:21 AM	#18
419Para_Dice Saiyan Prince Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 120 Photos: 1	i am 6' 2.5'', im about 19-20% bf. most of my fat is on my lower abs, and lower back, and butt. -Efrin
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01-06-2005, 10:22 AM	#19
419Para_Dice Saiyan Prince Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 120 Photos: 1	205.75 lbs this morning -Efrin
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01-06-2005, 09:12 AM	#3
bulletproof1 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: * Posts: 2,428	unless you weigh 130 pounds, you are not eating enough. you have to eat to burn fat. starving yourself will kill your lbm.

01-06-2005, 09:36 AM	#4
sgtneo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: UK South east Posts: 725	questions whats lbm? thanks neo

01-06-2005, 09:42 AM	#5
bulletproof1 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: * Posts: 2,428	lean body mass

01-06-2005, 09:43 AM	#6
sgtneo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: UK South east Posts: 725	i thought to be lean you had to have low body fat which ive been told i have so eating less would decrease your body fat is that not a good thing then? Neo

01-06-2005, 09:46 AM	#7
bulletproof1 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: * Posts: 2,428	the whole purpose in cutting is to lower your body fat while protecting your muscle. if you try to lose weight by starving yourself your body will use muscle for energy. make sense?

01-06-2005, 09:53 AM	#8
sgtneo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: UK South east Posts: 725	yeah i see your point all making sense now wouldnt a bit of cardio help lower body fat and keep musclerather than starving yourself Neo

01-06-2005, 09:59 AM	#9
bulletproof1 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: * Posts: 2,428	absolutely. cardio raises metabolism and so does eating. most are too lazy to do cardio though.

01-06-2005, 10:04 AM	#10
sgtneo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: UK South east Posts: 725	i loved doing cardio but i was told that i am very lean and need to bulk up and to do so ive got to stop cardio so i have done that but when i first started at the gym it did me wonders Neo

01-06-2005, 10:05 AM	#11
bulletproof1 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: * Posts: 2,428	cardio is the key to fat loss. personally, i think it sucks ass.

01-06-2005, 10:15 AM	#14
sgtneo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: UK South east Posts: 725	yeah i kinda get the picture as i do try and eat alot more healthy and have stoped the cardio so i dont burn what i put on. i definatly dont want to take in all those calories in an unhealthy way i eat alot of roles and sandwhiches, pasta chicken and fish when i can. also roles have good fillings like ham and salad, subways etc. im just as of yet not as precise on my diet as alot of you are which i will need to sit down very soon and work out a managable diet which i can afford as i can task my parents to be buying me all this food on top of the normal dinners they cook me. thanks for the help and i will definatly be sorting out my diet and posting it here so it can be ripped to shreds lol Neo

01-06-2005, 10:19 AM	#16
bulletproof1 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: * Posts: 2,428	how much do you weigh ?

01-06-2005, 10:20 AM	#17
bulletproof1 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: * Posts: 2,428	i agree diet is crucial, but when your cals cant go any lower, then you must rely on cardio.

01-06-2005, 10:25 AM	#20
419Para_Dice Saiyan Prince Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 120 Photos: 1	do you guys think i should up my calorie intake to 2000? -Efrin
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01-06-2005, 10:28 AM	#21
bulletproof1 Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: * Posts: 2,428	205 eating 1500 cals a day? dont eat less than 10x your body weight.

01-06-2005, 10:30 AM	#22
truth Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 116	too low on calories, para. you probably want to be at around 1900calories at least i'm starting monday, i'm about 180lbs, 17%bf, and will be consuming 1839calories and most of that weight you lost is water weight. what's your training program look like

01-06-2005, 10:31 AM	#23
truth Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 116	holy shit, you're eating 1300 calories at your current stats? say hi to catabolism for me, would you?? unless you're taking PH's, you're starving your body, and that is NOT the way to lose fat and preserve muscle.

01-06-2005, 10:32 AM	#24
Tom_B Tom_B Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Amherst, Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 3,589	Porbably I doubt your maintenance would be 2000 , 2100 (well I'm guessing since you said you wanted to be in a caloric defict of 500) when your 200lbs , I'm 130lbs and my maintenance is 2500 calories.. How tall are you? If you want you could probably keep your calories 1500-1600 just incorporate some refeeds into your diet , maybe 2-3 times a week if your metabolism is indeed that slow..

01-06-2005, 10:34 AM	#27
Tom_B Tom_B Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Amherst, Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 3,589	You also lifts weights right?.. probably one of the most important thing when it comes to fat loss, second to diet of course