Hit Dosn`t Work

Uzi9 · 01-09-2005, 07:25 AM

I have trained using HIT for 2 years now and have just converted to volume after watching pumping iron on DVD

, I tried all sorts of HIT workouts and kept to each for longer then 3 months always eating more calories and protien then i need, now 3 months ago i have started training 5 days a week doing 12 sets for large body parts and 9 sets for small body parts and i have now put on 8lbs of muscle and lost bodyfat (and yes my muscles now look more defined and and more like a bodybuilder, they used to look just bland even with a low bodyfat now they look almost aways pumped with striations) I anit taking any supplements and no steriods just i uped my calorie intake.

HIT does work to an extent I belive because you spend less time in the gym people with high metabolisims gain better from it then volume because they burn less calories throughout the week so the fibres they stimulate have the surplus calories to repair because so called hard gainers mostly have high metablisms so they dont realise that if they train using volume they have to eat huge amounts of food so they gain better on less volume eating what they think is enough, but if they were to use volume (and i know that my muscles feel twice as sore the next day doing 12 sets for quads as any HIT ball outs 1 set 20 rep squats superseted with 1 set of leg extensions do for me) and eat the amount of food they need they will grow better, I certainly am now, also i feel more switched on, happier and beacuse I dont push my muscles to death on each sets I belive injury is much less likely.

Machher · 01-09-2005, 09:54 AM

doing the same routine for 2 years straight?

ofcoarse youll see less gains. the body is an adaptation machine and you gotta switch it up so that it doesnt adapt so well to the style of training / work.

sabre81 · 01-09-2005, 10:50 AM

i use a combination of volume, 'HIT" and any other routine classification out there. I basically just wing it according to what my body seems to respond to. Simple as that.

**CowPimp** · 01-09-2005, 11:04 AM

You probably didn't perform your exercises with the utmost intensity. As well, if you also changed your diet and increased your caloric intake when you went to a higher volume routine, then that could easily explain your gains.

Pumpster · 01-09-2005, 11:35 AM

Many using HIT are going through the motions, thinking that few sets = easy. It's called high intensity for a reason; that's the whole point. Each set should be done with ridiculous intensity, with plenty of reps in the post-failure zone using techniques like rest-pause, forced reps, negatives, etc. No free rides; less than all-out isn't HIT IMO, and is just another way of skimping on workouts. Have some more potato chips.

Duncans Donuts · 01-09-2005, 02:12 PM

Yeah, HIT doesn't work

This is a great thread title. You contradict the title in your second paragraph. Inflammatory rhetoric is fantastic.

soxmuscle · 01-09-2005, 02:17 PM

"HIT doesn't work for me" would be the proper title.

Duncans Donuts · 01-09-2005, 02:22 PM

or perhaps, "I didn't know what I was doing"

or "HIT does work to an extent I belive"

**P-funk** · 01-09-2005, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Duncans Donuts

or perhaps, "I didn't know what I was doing"

Gotta love DuncanDonuts!!

GIZmo_Timme · 01-09-2005, 04:04 PM

I combine HIT with volume It works great!

Duncans Donuts · 01-09-2005, 04:18 PM

You know, it's one thing to disagree with the principles of a program, but to have a thread started by someone named Uzi (a machine gun recognized for it's high volume of fire) with a picture of HIT's greatest adversary in his avatar (Arnold) with the title of the thread as "HIT dosn't work" (despite the spelling, at least the punctuation was accurate) in which the author of said title DIRECTLY AND SPECIFICALLY CONTRADICTS THE TITLE HE CREATED, making one of the most inelegant and ineloquent arguments I've ever had the displeasure of reading, which featured 2 paragraphs composed of nearly 300 words and only two periods- well, to call this ridiculous would be an understatement. There was even a thread asking if you were for or against HIT as though the topic were on the same philosophical level of debating political philosophy (e.g. are you for or against Marxism?)

Give me a break..

**CowPimp** · 01-09-2005, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Duncans Donuts

or perhaps, "I didn't know what I was doing"

That's the one.

BigDyl · 01-09-2005, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Duncans Donuts

You know, it's one thing to disagree with the principles of a program, but to have a thread started by someone named Uzi (a machine gun recognized for it's high volume of fire) with a picture of HIT's greatest adversary in his avatar (Arnold) with the title of the thread as "HIT dosn't work" (despite the spelling, at least the punctuation was accurate) in which the author of said title DIRECTLY AND SPECIFICALLY CONTRADICTS THE TITLE HE CREATED, making one of the most inelegant and ineloquent arguments I've ever had the displeasure of reading, which featured 2 paragraphs composed of nearly 300 words and only two periods- well, to call this ridiculous would be an understatement. There was even a thread asking if you were for or against HIT as though the topic were on the same philosophical level of debating political philosophy (e.g. are you for or against Marxism?)

Give me a break..

rangers97 · 01-10-2005, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Duncans Donuts

You know, it's one thing to disagree with the principles of a program, but to have a thread started by someone named Uzi (a machine gun recognized for it's high volume of fire) with a picture of HIT's greatest adversary in his avatar (Arnold) with the title of the thread as "HIT dosn't work" (despite the spelling, at least the punctuation was accurate) in which the author of said title DIRECTLY AND SPECIFICALLY CONTRADICTS THE TITLE HE CREATED, making one of the most inelegant and ineloquent arguments I've ever had the displeasure of reading, which featured 2 paragraphs composed of nearly 300 words and only two periods- well, to call this ridiculous would be an understatement. There was even a thread asking if you were for or against HIT as though the topic were on the same philosophical level of debating political philosophy (e.g. are you for or against Marxism?)

Give me a break..

BRAVO!

Ever consider a career in politics???

Stu · 01-10-2005, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uzi9

I have trained using HIT for 2 years now and have just converted to volume after watching pumping iron on DVD

, I tried all sorts of HIT workouts and kept to each for longer then 3 months always eating more calories and protien then i need, now 3 months ago i have started training 5 days a week doing 12 sets for large body parts and 9 sets for small body parts and i have now put on 8lbs of muscle and lost bodyfat (and yes my muscles now look more defined and and more like a bodybuilder, they used to look just bland even with a low bodyfat now they look almost aways pumped with striations) I anit taking any supplements and no steriods just i uped my calorie intake.

did you not think of upping your calorie intake whilst on HIT?

Uzi9 · 01-11-2005, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Duncans Donuts

or perhaps, "I didn't know what I was doing"

or "HIT does work to an extent I belive"

Well duncan my knowledge of HIT out weighs yours and its not possible for any human to train harder then I do on that 1 very important set, so bulls to to any one thinking I dont train with HIT hard enough, also duncan my title "HIT dosnt work" like all great books or films is to grab peoples attention i arnt gonna write "HIT dosnt work as well as volume because people dont eat enough calories to compensate for the extra volume" am I

. I have been dedicated to HIT for longer then you Duncan but now I dropped the SHIT oh i mean HIT its all plain sailing for me.

Dont be girlie men.

Rocco32 · 01-11-2005, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Uzi9

Well duncan my knowledge of HIT out weighs yours and its not possible for any human to train harder then I do on that 1 very important set,

I think that's the funniest thing said in this thread so far. How do you know your knowledge outweighs DD's?

Pumpster · 01-11-2005, 09:45 AM

Take it lite dude; you're outnumbered by a factor of 3 Duncan groupies. Easy.

Uzi9 · 01-11-2005, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by rock4832

I think that's the funniest thing said in this thread so far. How do you know your knowledge outweighs DD's?

How do you know it dosnt and you must have a bland sence of humor if you find that funny "groupie"

Rocco32 · 01-11-2005, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Uzi9

How do you know it dosnt and you must have a bland sence of humor if you find that funny "groupie"

Because I know DD and find him extremely knowledgable. I've found very few actually intelligent posts from you. Just the fact that you claim to know more than DD gives insight to your ignorance. Not to mention the fact you can't spell to save your life and you need help from pumpster to come up with the original thought of "groupie". And no, there are no groupies. There are people who are right, and there are people who are wrong and blatantly ignorant. Guess which category you fall under.

Uzi9 · 01-11-2005, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by rock4832

Because I know DD and find him extremely knowledgable. I've found very few actually intelligent posts from you. Just the fact that you claim to know more than DD gives insight to your ignorance. Not to mention the fact you can't spell to save your life and you need help from pumpster to come up with the original thought of "groupie". And no, there are no groupies. There are people who are right, and there are people who are wrong and blatantly ignorant. Guess which category you fall under.

On dear another girlie man....

Rocco32 · 01-11-2005, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uzi9

On dear another girlie man....

Very intelligent response. What are you, Arnold?!? At least come up with your own insults.

Uzi9 · 01-11-2005, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rock4832

Very intelligent response. What are you, Arnold?!? At least come up with your own insults.

The only thing that is funny around here is your avatar

Rocco32 · 01-11-2005, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Uzi9

The only thing that is funny around here is your avatar

Hmmmm... coming from a man with no pics at all. Wonder why

And is that really the best thing you can come up with?

Uzi9 · 01-11-2005, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rock4832

Hmmmm... coming from a man with no pics at all. Wonder why

And is that really the best thing you can come up with?

Well its enough thought I need to give someone like you

Uzi9 · 01-11-2005, 10:31 AM

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01-09-2005, 07:25 AM	#1
Uzi9 Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: England Posts: 394	Hit Dosn`t Work I have trained using HIT for 2 years now and have just converted to volume after watching pumping iron on DVD , I tried all sorts of HIT workouts and kept to each for longer then 3 months always eating more calories and protien then i need, now 3 months ago i have started training 5 days a week doing 12 sets for large body parts and 9 sets for small body parts and i have now put on 8lbs of muscle and lost bodyfat (and yes my muscles now look more defined and and more like a bodybuilder, they used to look just bland even with a low bodyfat now they look almost aways pumped with striations) I anit taking any supplements and no steriods just i uped my calorie intake. HIT does work to an extent I belive because you spend less time in the gym people with high metabolisims gain better from it then volume because they burn less calories throughout the week so the fibres they stimulate have the surplus calories to repair because so called hard gainers mostly have high metablisms so they dont realise that if they train using volume they have to eat huge amounts of food so they gain better on less volume eating what they think is enough, but if they were to use volume (and i know that my muscles feel twice as sore the next day doing 12 sets for quads as any HIT ball outs 1 set 20 rep squats superseted with 1 set of leg extensions do for me) and eat the amount of food they need they will grow better, I certainly am now, also i feel more switched on, happier and beacuse I dont push my muscles to death on each sets I belive injury is much less likely.

01-09-2005, 11:04 AM	#4
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01-09-2005, 11:35 AM	#5
Pumpster Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 106 Photos: 3	Many using HIT are going through the motions, thinking that few sets = easy. It's called high intensity for a reason; that's the whole point. Each set should be done with ridiculous intensity, with plenty of reps in the post-failure zone using techniques like rest-pause, forced reps, negatives, etc. No free rides; less than all-out isn't HIT IMO, and is just another way of skimping on workouts. Have some more potato chips. Last edited by Pumpster : 01-09-2005 at 05:24 PM.

01-09-2005, 02:12 PM	#6
Duncans Donuts Stay puffed, baby. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: CA Posts: 2,774 Photos: 2	Yeah, HIT doesn't work This is a great thread title. You contradict the title in your second paragraph. Inflammatory rhetoric is fantastic.
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01-09-2005, 02:17 PM	#7
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01-09-2005, 09:54 AM	#2
Machher Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 318	doing the same routine for 2 years straight? ofcoarse youll see less gains. the body is an adaptation machine and you gotta switch it up so that it doesnt adapt so well to the style of training / work.

01-09-2005, 10:50 AM	#3
sabre81 mmmm weights.. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Western New York Posts: 386	i use a combination of volume, 'HIT" and any other routine classification out there. I basically just wing it according to what my body seems to respond to. Simple as that.

01-09-2005, 02:22 PM	#8
Duncans Donuts Stay puffed, baby. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: CA Posts: 2,774 Photos: 2	or perhaps, "I didn't know what I was doing" or "HIT does work to an extent I belive"
	"in the howling bleeding nights, the dogs plunge into the Volga and swim desperately to gain the other bank. The nights of Stalingrad are a terror for them. Animals flee this hell; the hardest stones cannot bear it for long; only men endure."

01-09-2005, 04:04 PM	#10
GIZmo_Timme tjwes, I can flex fat ;) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 165 Photos: 8	I combine HIT with volume It works great!

01-09-2005, 04:18 PM	#11
Duncans Donuts Stay puffed, baby. Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: CA Posts: 2,774 Photos: 2	You know, it's one thing to disagree with the principles of a program, but to have a thread started by someone named Uzi (a machine gun recognized for it's high volume of fire) with a picture of HIT's greatest adversary in his avatar (Arnold) with the title of the thread as "HIT dosn't work" (despite the spelling, at least the punctuation was accurate) in which the author of said title DIRECTLY AND SPECIFICALLY CONTRADICTS THE TITLE HE CREATED, making one of the most inelegant and ineloquent arguments I've ever had the displeasure of reading, which featured 2 paragraphs composed of nearly 300 words and only two periods- well, to call this ridiculous would be an understatement. There was even a thread asking if you were for or against HIT as though the topic were on the same philosophical level of debating political philosophy (e.g. are you for or against Marxism?) Give me a break..
	"in the howling bleeding nights, the dogs plunge into the Volga and swim desperately to gain the other bank. The nights of Stalingrad are a terror for them. Animals flee this hell; the hardest stones cannot bear it for long; only men endure."

01-11-2005, 09:45 AM	#18
Pumpster Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 106 Photos: 3	Take it lite dude; you're outnumbered by a factor of 3 Duncan groupies. Easy. Last edited by Pumpster : 01-11-2005 at 10:13 AM.

01-11-2005, 10:31 AM	#26
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