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Old 01-09-2005, 06:11 PM   #1
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I have gained about 15 lbs(138-155) and have had my bench, curl, and tricep pushdowns all go up in the past 4-5 months. Here are my results.. tell me what you think and if i should work out any another muscle groups that look weak... thanx (p.s. i am 15 years old)

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you should be working out all muscle groups on a weekly basis regardless of what looks like it needs work.



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i do traps,quads,lats,bi's,tri's,shoulders, and chest..
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lookin' good man ! ......look better on a solid set of pins.



What this means is that when we drop a ball and it falls to the ground, it wasn't the ball that moved (down to the ground), but the ground that moved (up to the ball)
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He looks fine, real skinny, but thats beside the point. He is avoiding working on any body part that simply doesn't need more work. Thats ridiculous.



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for being 15 u look good man.. keep up the work.. testosterone levels arent even high in 15 year olds.. are they?
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for being 15 u look good man.. keep up the work.. testosterone levels arent even high in 15 year olds.. are they?
They could be raging, it just depends when he started puberty.



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Looks like a mesomorph to me. Did I mention I hate mesomorphs?



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ive been reading alot on Im about mesomorphs and other sorts of morphs.. what is up with that.. i looked around and couldnt find an explanation.. does it have to do with ur metabolism or metabolic rate
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Looks like a mesomorph to me. Did I mention I hate mesomorphs?
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Looks like a mesomorph to me. Did I mention I hate mesomorphs?
No offense intended, but I am guessing you have never seen one in your life. I have seen mesomorphs, and it took me years of training to even figure out how to match them. Not to say that people are not of mixed types, but being lean with small amounts of muscle does not make one a mesomorph.

138 to 155 pounds is not a mesomorph at 15 years of age. The mesomorphs I have known were no taller than 5'9" and all weighed over 200 pounds with ZERO training or attention to diet, at 15 they would have weighed more than 155 which is what I weighed, being somewhat average.

I would suggest hitting the legs. I dont think an unbalanced physique looks very pleasing to the eye, and women like legs believe it or not.



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No offense intended, but I am guessing you have never seen one in your life. I have seen mesomorphs, and it took me years of training to even figure out how to match them. Not to say that people are not of mixed types, but being lean with small amounts of muscle does not make one a mesomorph.

138 to 155 pounds is not a mesomorph at 15 years of age. The mesomorphs I have known were no taller than 5'9" and all weighed over 200 pounds with ZERO training or attention to diet, at 15 they would have weighed more than 155 which is what I weighed, being somewhat average.

I would suggest hitting the legs. I dont think an unbalanced physique looks very pleasing to the eye, and women like legs believe it or not.

Yeah, but once he hits the legs he will be well beyond 155. Maybe 170@ 15. Maybe he is not 100% meso, but I think he is close.



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yeah viper man hit the legs after all you wouldnt want huge upper body and twigs for legs would you, myself i enjoy doing the legs expecially the squats as i can now do 1 set of 10 reps at 65 kg which is roughly 145lbs and i ahve only been doing legs myself for 6-7 weeks maybe shows how much can be acheived if you put your mind to it

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He looks fine, real skinny, but thats beside the point. He is avoiding working on any body part that simply doesn't need more work. Thats ridiculous.
damn, man, take it easy on him. He didn't post that he thinks he's the shit. Do i sense a wee bit of jealousy? instead of criticizing, why not offer advice?

I think you look great for a 15yr old, WAY ahead of where i was.

In your situation, there's a few thing you need to do:
1. Learn as much as you can about BB (training, diet, rest etc.)
2. Train the entire body (add back, forearms, calves, abs, lower back, and train all 3 different heads to the delts)
3. EAT EAT EAT as much as you can. Your in the most anabolic age of your life, and you need cals to grow. Eat all the (mostly clean) protein and carbs you can handle.

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Yeah, but once he hits the legs he will be well beyond 155. Maybe 170@ 15. Maybe he is not 100% meso, but I think he is close.
With zero training he would weigh more. If someone were 100% meso they would be scientific freaks, like the baby who can hold 15 pounds in front of himself with one arm, he is a freak. Again I'm not discounting what anyone looks like here, I am not mesomorphic myself. If I were by comparing my height and weight to those I have known, I would have been about 235 pounds to start with not having lifted a damn thing.

Paul Demayo said he was 205 pounds in high school before he lifted a weight, he is 5'10". The mesos I have known were over 200 in high school AND lean, and the last one I worked with about 6 years ago, also lean, 215 pounds at 5'9" where I was only 205 at 6'2". Neither of the two of them did anything physical in terms of weights, jogging or anything of the like.

Not eating properly, when I was 15 I would have been about 155 pounds, 5'8", with under 16" arms and closing out the year benching about 185 which was ok but not stupendous by any means and far from mesomorphic.



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With zero training he would weigh more. If someone were 100% meso they would be scientific freaks, like the baby who can hold 15 pounds in front of himself with one arm, he is a freak. Again I'm not discounting what anyone looks like here, I am not mesomorphic myself. If I were by comparing my height and weight to those I have known, I would have been about 235 pounds to start with not having lifted a damn thing.

Paul Demayo said he was 205 pounds in high school before he lifted a weight, he is 5'10". The mesos I have known were over 200 in high school AND lean, and the last one I worked with about 6 years ago, also lean, 215 pounds at 5'9" where I was only 205 at 6'2". Neither of the two of them did anything physical in terms of weights, jogging or anything of the like.

Not eating properly, when I was 15 I would have been about 155 pounds, 5'8", with under 16" arms and closing out the year benching about 185 which was ok but not stupendous by any means and far from mesomorphic.

I see what your saying. But, would they not be super meso's, or something to that extent then? I thought Mesomorphs were fairly common...



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Mesomorphs are RARE, I think you are confusing being lean and showing a little muscle as being a mesomorph.

There are meso/endos that I would call "super," those are the guys that walk into a gym for the first time and bench 400-500 pounds with zero training. A guy who weighs in the 130-150s in high school, is not a mesomorph unless he is extremely short.

That is just my observation. Someone who is midly athletic doesn't appeal to me as a mesomorph, obviously though there is more variety in society than just 3 different sizes of people, we are mixes of bodytypes. But someone I'd call mesomorphic would be both lean and large without touching a damn thing.



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But someone I'd call mesomorphic would be both lean and large without touching a damn thing.
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And again I dont say any of that to belittle anyones "genetics," I am not anywhere near mesomorphic myself. I lifted weights and still did not match the strength or muscularity of the mesomorphs I knew, although admitedly I did not know the true importance of diet at that time.

Mesomorphs are not at all common, I have known maybe 4 in my life that I can think of, that were more meso than meso-endo.



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That sucks... but there we have a nice example of a true mesomorph. Brad Pitt is not a mesomorph.

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And again I dont say any of that to belittle anyones "genetics," I am not anywhere near mesomorphic myself. I lifted weights and still did not match the strength or muscularity of the mesomorphs I knew, although admitedly I did not know the true importance of diet at that time.

Mesomorphs are not at all common, I have known maybe 4 in my life that I can think of, that were more meso than meso-endo.
I know one, Glenn Murray. The guy wrestles for Michigan state. I watch the kid eat 4 donuts for breakfast. and then meatloaf for a dinner (that's it.)

I've known him for 17 years. I still remember the pull up contest they made us do in 2nd grade. I did 6 (2nd place) we all sat on the floor(indian style) and counted as Glenn did 27. And that's not a joke.

He was about 5'7" 165 in sophmore year of HS. I think he was benching about 315 back then.

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