Decline bench presses a waste?

min0 lee · 01-10-2005, 08:37 PM

I've heard and read various reports on declines..i was wondering is this a waste of time exercise or what? i've read in a few mags that they really do nothing for the chest and then i've seen a few pros use the exercise..can i get a few opinions? are they worth it or worth-less??

I feel dips do a better job.

BigDyl · 01-10-2005, 08:42 PM

Well, since they hit the bottom chest muscle, while de-activating, and hence, atrophying your middle and upper chestoralis muscles, you shouldnt do them.

Or at least thats what Johnnnnnnnnnny told me.

PreMier · 01-10-2005, 08:53 PM

I never do them. Dont think their that important.

Flex · 01-10-2005, 08:56 PM

i like 'em

Flex · 01-10-2005, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDyl

while de-activating, and hence, atrophying your middle and upper chestoralis muscles

DAMN!

i think i was born w/o a chestoralis!

cman · 01-10-2005, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PreMier

I never do them. Dont think their that important.

Me either. How have you been Premier?
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j rizz · 01-10-2005, 09:56 PM

cant u get the same effect if you just use the fly cables and put it on the lowest position.??

LAM · 01-10-2005, 11:06 PM

I would always include some type of decline movement in your chest training. I've yet to meet a person who has weak pectoral development that regularly uses a decline movement for chest.

**CowPimp** · 01-11-2005, 12:42 AM

I haven't incorporated them into my routine in a while, but I'm thinking I might next week. I see nothing wrong with them, although very people tend to do them regularly it seems.

westb51 · 01-11-2005, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by j rizz

cant u get the same effect if you just use the fly cables and put it on the lowest position.??

i think you need the cables in the highest position to get the effect of decline flys or maybe not

westb51 · 01-11-2005, 08:42 AM

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Vieope · 01-11-2005, 08:54 AM

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Uzi9 · 01-11-2005, 09:12 AM

Decline are a great chest exercise that works your lower pec, you should always include a decline or dip movement in a chest routine for overall pec devlopment, I call then clevage cleavers

**Mudge** · 01-11-2005, 10:56 AM

Dips versus decline benches, with big weights I prefer the bench over a dip any day of the week. I like a stable platform for my wrists, versus trying to crawl into position with weights hitting me in the nads and swinging to and fro.

I dont currently do any decline work or dips, but I prefer declines to dips unless its bodyweight only.

machinehead · 01-11-2005, 01:19 PM

what about decline flyes vs decline bench press?

LAM · 01-11-2005, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by machinehead

what about decline flyes vs decline bench press?

flys are a stretch muscle movement that are not that good of a mass building exercise...

machinehead · 01-11-2005, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LAM

flys are a stretch muscle movement that are not that good of a ass building exercise...

ok, so if i want to build mass, should i stay away from flyes? only just bench presses?

thatguy · 01-11-2005, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by machinehead

ok, so if i want to build mass, should i stay away from flyes? only just bench presses?

Flyes certainly don't hurt mass, they just shouldn't be the staple of your chest routine. I think it's good to put them at the end of a chest workout. I do incline flyes because I feel like it maybe correctly distributes the mass I gain with my chest. Even after doing incline BB or DB press, if I don't do incline flyes my upper, inner chest is not as defined and it changes the shape of my chest over time.

tenxyearsxgone · 01-11-2005, 02:03 PM

i never did declines till a powerlifter reccommended them to me...great way not only to target your lower pecs but to incorporate the movement and muscles of the shoulder that aid in your regular flat bench press ... I have used them the last two weeks with much success...make sure you hit the bottom of your chest and not your fat stomach you lazy bastards!!!

BigDyl · 01-11-2005, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tenxyearsxgone

i never did declines till a powerlifter reccommended them to me...great way not only to target your lower pecs but to incorporate the movement and muscles of the shoulder that aid in your regular flat bench press ... I have used them the last two weeks with much success...make sure you hit the bottom of your chest and not your fat stomach you lazy bastards!!!

Uh-oh... the old bottom of the chest isolation....

LAM · 01-11-2005, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by machinehead

ok, so if i want to build mass, should i stay away from flyes? only just bench presses?

use them at the end of your chest training to stretch out the muscle facia. I use a variety, I do them on the incline bench, flat bench and decline bench...

ChrisROCK · 01-12-2005, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by j rizz

cant u get the same effect if you just use the fly cables and put it on the lowest position.??

Nah, try it. Putting the cables in the lowest position targets the upper chest. In the high position it hits the lower portion more.

**CowPimp** · 01-12-2005, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisROCK

Nah, try it. Putting the cables in the lowest position targets the upper chest. In the high position it hits the lower portion more.

I think this is nonsense, but you are welcome to try it.

ChrisROCK · 01-12-2005, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

I think this is nonsense, but you are welcome to try it.

no need to have another thread debating the same thing. I know what i feel when i do the above cable exercises...whether or not it's doing anything to develop a particular region of the pecs, more than another, I'm not sure.

But again, there is no harm at all to varying degrees of angle when working out a particular muscle group. We do it with everything else!

**P-funk** · 01-12-2005, 11:51 AM

I thought you have to do decline bench press to work your lower chest??

**Prince** · 01-12-2005, 11:55 AM

seeing that I do not believe in chest isolation, I highly recommend decline presses. declines put the least amount of stress on the shoulders compared to flat and incline.

j rizz · 01-12-2005, 12:07 PM

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