Why do personal trainers look like crap?

seabee · 01-15-2005, 12:04 AM

I've decided after 8 years of lifting, I have probably seen 2 or 3 great builds on PTs. It sucks because I've been thinking of getting one to get over this sticking point, but they just are not impressive...or better than me. Shouldn't you admire the body on your PT?

I think I'm better off talking to some gym rat with my height/genetic build who has great development. What do you think? Can a PT help an experienced lifter go to the next level in building muscle mass?

AnabolicFreak04 · 01-15-2005, 03:13 AM

No, I think they have different ideas of training. Actually I think that they could use our advice.

thatguy · 01-15-2005, 10:08 AM

Everybody thinks they're bigger than they really are, and it seems as though everyone that knows a little about BB thinks they know much, much more. Looks like that leaks into people's professions, too.

V Player · 01-15-2005, 11:02 AM

Because 99.99 precent of PTs know dick about actual training.

Du · 01-15-2005, 11:07 AM

Very few personal trainers are in the business of bodybuilding. Most people who use PTs are female, and they dont want to be bulky, they want to be thin and cut. The men who use them very rarely want to be big. PTs cater to these crowds, as these are the ones who are most likely to give them business.

Most people dont have the dedication and desire to get big like we do. Its all about business.

thatguy · 01-15-2005, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by V Player

Because 99.99 precent of PTs know dick about actual training.

They are pretty big wastes of money lots of times, I agree. Sometimes there are some good ones. When I was in highschool, my mom got me three training sessions for Christmas. This guy had me do 3 sets of 10 of what seemed like everything he could think of, and while I was doing certain things he would go talk to girls. Needless to say, he was worthless.

I could probably get more info in 15 minutes on this website than from multiple training sessions with your average PT.

**Prince** · 01-15-2005, 11:19 AM

In the defense of PT's just because they are not buff looking bodybuilders does not mean they do not know anything about training and diet. I do agree they should look the part, but there are very kowledgable people/trainers that do not look like bodybuilders.

V Player · 01-15-2005, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by thatguy

They are pretty big wastes of money lots of times .....

I could probably get more info in 15 minutes on this website than from multiple training sessions with your average PT.

I have to agree 100%, and I myself have a couple of good friends who are trainers. Yes, IMO most are worthless because most of them are trainers simply because they got in shape, took a course, and then got a certificate. Sounds like your guy was one of these.

V Player · 01-15-2005, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

In the defense of PT's just because they are not buff looking bodybuilders does not mean they do not know anything about training and diet.

Oh I agree. Im speaking in general. There's always exceptions to everything.

**P-funk** · 01-15-2005, 11:43 AM

I am a personal trainer. I will admit that a lot of personal trainers look like shit. There is no excuse for that IMO. You should take care of yourself to better promote your product. I agree with Prince in that just because someone isn't bb'er big doesn't mean they are a knowledgable persoanl trainer. Some of my friends that are trainers aren't huge guys, they have good athletic phyisques. But, even though they aren't big and huge doesn't mean that they can't write you a killer program, school your ass in olympic lifting and bury you in a 40yrd sprint. Some guys just have different goals.

thatguy · 01-15-2005, 11:47 AM

Agreed.

V Player · 01-15-2005, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

I am a personal trainer. I will admit that a lot of personal trainers look like shit. There is no excuse for that IMO. You should take care of yourself to better promote your product. I agree with Prince in that just because someone isn't bb'er big doesn't mean they are a knowledgable persoanl trainer. Some of my friends that are trainers aren't huge guys, they have good athletic phyisques. But, even though they aren't big and huge doesn't mean that they can't write you a killer program, school your ass in olympic lifting and bury you in a 40yrd sprint. Some guys just have different goals.

Ah but see arent you one of the rare few that actually have a degree and everything else associated with it? Not just a certificate and a good physique?I wouldnt mind paying for the services of someone like you if I could afford it. But I dang sure would not pay for someone that didnt have the all the credentials. And a measely little certificate sure as hell aint enough credentials in my opinion. I can learn more from forums like this so long as I wade through the bull.

This is just MY personal general view. Doesnt apply to all trainers.

j rizz · 01-15-2005, 01:41 PM

yeah.. whenever i walk into my local rec. center and watch these trainers showing their clients what to do. i think to myself..why isnt their money in my back pocket right now?!?! it pisses me off because half the stuff they show their clients is general knowledge mixed in with bullshit that their clients want to hear. i agree when you say "its all business".

**Prince** · 01-15-2005, 01:42 PM

then you guys should become personal trainers.

j rizz · 01-15-2005, 02:08 PM

..dont have the time..

V Player · 01-15-2005, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

then you guys should become personal trainers.

No. Im honest enough to say that Im not qualified. I get asked to train people from time to time. I decline.

And also because I dont think I would like putting up with people.

Like I said , Rob, my views are general. There's always exceptions to every rule. Like P-funk, Gopro....

min0 lee · 01-15-2005, 04:31 PM

I met a guy at the gym where I go to and we started training together. I taught him alot while we trained.

Well anyway he disappeared for a while and next thing you know he is a personal trainer at my gym. He didn't know crap, but he learned from me and now he's taking bodybuilding courses from our gym.

One thing though, he is good with people unlike me. I am anti-social......expect here.

min0 lee · 01-15-2005, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by V Player

No. Im honest enough to say that Im not qualified. I get asked to train people from time to time. I decline.

And also because I dont think I would like putting up with people.

Like I said , Rob, my views are general. There's always exceptions to every rule. Like P-funk, Gopro....

I agree with what you said, I feel the same way.
Not all PT are lame...........but since my gym is Ballys you do get to see a lot of fat trainers or skinny trainers.

**P-funk** · 01-15-2005, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

I met a guy at the gym where I go to and we started training together. I taught him alot while we trained.

Well anyway he disappeared for a while and next thing you know he is a personal trainer at my gym. He didn't know crap, but he learned from me and now he's taking bodybuilding courses from our gym.

One thing though, he is good with people unlike me. I am anti-social......expect here.

bbing courses???

min0 lee · 01-15-2005, 04:36 PM

I don't know what his training classes were called but they taught him about nutrition, weightlifting...alot of stuff.

min0 lee · 01-15-2005, 04:37 PM

"bbing" Isn't that a word?

**P-funk** · 01-15-2005, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

"bbing" Isn't that a word?

shut up min0 or I will start a thread about you.

**Jodi** · 01-15-2005, 04:45 PM

It was probably that stupid Apex program

I've seen some gyms require this. I dont' know what it entails though.

I have a measly certificate but I don't train anymore. I couldn't handle the lack of dedication that people had. They pay you and then they don't want to work.

It drove me insane.

min0 lee · 01-15-2005, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

shut up min0 or I will start a thread about you.

**P-funk** · 01-15-2005, 04:56 PM

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I have a measly certificate but I don't train anymore. I couldn't handle the lack of dedication that people had. They pay you and then they don't want to work. It drove me insane

yes, i get really argavted at times. maybe all the people that are really in shape don't want to be personal trainers because they can't handle the lack of dedication, leaing the fat asses that are good at selling to train people....lol

V Player · 01-15-2005, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by min0 lee

I met a guy at the gym where I go to and we started training together. I taught him alot while we trained.

Well anyway he disappeared for a while and next thing you know he is a personal trainer at my gym. He didn't know crap, but he learned from me and now he's taking bodybuilding courses from our gym.

One thing though, he is good with people unlike me. I am anti-social......expect here.

This right here is what Im talking about. "next thing you he is a personal trainer". That scares the piss out of me.

Now this may not be the EXACT same thing, but would you trust your car to someone that took a "course"? Or a doctor that took a "course". Yes, its an extreme comparison but the point is still that there's a bunch of goofs who just "take courses".

Vieope · 01-15-2005, 04:58 PM

How about Mr. Miyagi?

01-15-2005, 12:04 AM	#1
seabee Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 165	Why do personal trainers look like crap? I've decided after 8 years of lifting, I have probably seen 2 or 3 great builds on PTs. It sucks because I've been thinking of getting one to get over this sticking point, but they just are not impressive...or better than me. Shouldn't you admire the body on your PT? I think I'm better off talking to some gym rat with my height/genetic build who has great development. What do you think? Can a PT help an experienced lifter go to the next level in building muscle mass?
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01-15-2005, 11:02 AM	#4
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01-15-2005, 11:07 AM	#5
Du Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: London, UK Posts: 4,085 Photos: 5	Very few personal trainers are in the business of bodybuilding. Most people who use PTs are female, and they dont want to be bulky, they want to be thin and cut. The men who use them very rarely want to be big. PTs cater to these crowds, as these are the ones who are most likely to give them business. Most people dont have the dedication and desire to get big like we do. Its all about business.
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01-15-2005, 11:19 AM	#7
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,931 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	In the defense of PT's just because they are not buff looking bodybuilders does not mean they do not know anything about training and diet. I do agree they should look the part, but there are very kowledgable people/trainers that do not look like bodybuilders.
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01-15-2005, 11:43 AM	#10
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,573	I am a personal trainer. I will admit that a lot of personal trainers look like shit. There is no excuse for that IMO. You should take care of yourself to better promote your product. I agree with Prince in that just because someone isn't bb'er big doesn't mean they are a knowledgable persoanl trainer. Some of my friends that are trainers aren't huge guys, they have good athletic phyisques. But, even though they aren't big and huge doesn't mean that they can't write you a killer program, school your ass in olympic lifting and bury you in a 40yrd sprint. Some guys just have different goals.
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01-15-2005, 03:13 AM	#2
AnabolicFreak04 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 26	No, I think they have different ideas of training. Actually I think that they could use our advice.

01-15-2005, 10:08 AM	#3
thatguy Training again...finally Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 904	Everybody thinks they're bigger than they really are, and it seems as though everyone that knows a little about BB thinks they know much, much more. Looks like that leaks into people's professions, too.

01-15-2005, 11:47 AM	#11
thatguy Training again...finally Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 904	Agreed.

01-15-2005, 01:41 PM	#13
j rizz Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cleveland Posts: 326	yeah.. whenever i walk into my local rec. center and watch these trainers showing their clients what to do. i think to myself..why isnt their money in my back pocket right now?!?! it pisses me off because half the stuff they show their clients is general knowledge mixed in with bullshit that their clients want to hear. i agree when you say "its all business".

01-15-2005, 01:42 PM	#14
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,931 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 320	then you guys should become personal trainers.
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01-15-2005, 02:08 PM	#15
j rizz Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cleveland Posts: 326	..dont have the time..

01-15-2005, 04:31 PM	#17
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 33,683 Blog Entries: 3 Photos: 542	I met a guy at the gym where I go to and we started training together. I taught him alot while we trained. Well anyway he disappeared for a while and next thing you know he is a personal trainer at my gym. He didn't know crap, but he learned from me and now he's taking bodybuilding courses from our gym. One thing though, he is good with people unlike me. I am anti-social......expect here.

01-15-2005, 04:36 PM	#20
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 33,683 Blog Entries: 3 Photos: 542	I don't know what his training classes were called but they taught him about nutrition, weightlifting...alot of stuff.

01-15-2005, 04:37 PM	#21
min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 33,683 Blog Entries: 3 Photos: 542	"bbing" Isn't that a word?

01-15-2005, 04:45 PM	#23
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,259 Photos: 1	It was probably that stupid Apex program I've seen some gyms require this. I dont' know what it entails though. I have a measly certificate but I don't train anymore. I couldn't handle the lack of dedication that people had. They pay you and then they don't want to work. It drove me insane.
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01-15-2005, 04:58 PM	#27
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