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    How much is too much?

    Hey guys, i'm relatively new to the world of cutting and I have 9 weeks untill spring break when me and some friends hit the beach to loose as much fat as possible without loosing what muscle I have. So I have a few questions.


    1. I actually like to run. I usually go for 30-45 min at a time. Is running every day for that amount of time overdoing it or should I stick to Monday, Wednesday, and Friday?

    2. If it's not too bad, could I run once in the morning and once in the evening?

    3. I have a HUGE appetite (duh, i'm 300 FREAKING pounds). Is it ok to have some sunflower seeds when I get the munchies? They are salted but I can't stand them any other way and they keep me from pigging out.

    Thanks for any help and if it helps, I am 19, 6'4", and 300lbs with about 20%BF. I used to powerlift and run all the time and I was in real good shape but after football season and getting to college, it got worse.

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    post your diet.

    run?? Do you lift weights? I wouldn't do two a days of cardio.
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    Hey P-funk......thanks for the quick reply. I do lift a little weights as I am trying to get back to where I used to be. As for the diet, i'm still working on putting one together but I can tell you it will have a lot of tuna, chicken, and salads. I can say that b/c thats what I like the most of. I also have some whey protein, vitamin c, calcium, and a multivitamin.

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    you should right out a meal plan to follow for the next 8 weeks so everyone can help you out.

    Start getting to the gym more. Increasing your lean muscle mass will help you lean out imensly!!

    Read some of the journals to get ideas for eating and training. Also, you may want to start a journal of your own to get some indivdual help.

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    Thanks for the advice man. Any info on the sunflower seeds? I'll get on writing out a diet right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitar_man04
    Thanks for the advice man. Any info on the sunflower seeds? I'll get on writing out a diet right now.

    if they fit calorically in your diet and part of a well balanced meal i see no problem.
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    id say sure... just as long as your not getting a full stomach off of the sunflower seeds alone. or choose an alternative snack that will better fit into your diet.

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    No way I could get a full stomach off them. The ones I like are the ones where they still have the shell on them and I couldn't eat that many of them. I just use them to nibble on when I get really strong cravings.

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    dang regular running at 300 lbs id be careful on the wear and tear of your knees.

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    I have patella femoral syndrome in both knees and have had it for years. (perminate partially dislocated knee caps). Because of it, I have done LOTS of physical therapy and my knees are just about the strongest joint I have. I'm not real worried about them and my doc says its ok as long as I stop if it hurts too bad. Thanks for the concern though.

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    that seems like a lot of running, but you can do it. my dad's been doing it for a loooooong time. he always runs first thing in the morning, sometimes again. he never takes a day off. running isnt like lifting, i think u can do it every day. my brother does it once a day too. i prefer twice a week, but i used to do it every day as well.

    id say every day is fine. twice a day is a bit much.... but you could do it if u want to.

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    Well too much is too much when it exceeds the barrier of enough.

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    You wanna lose weight but keep your lean muscle? It is all about calories. I know it's a drag, but it really does help when you've got a precise or rough idea about how much you consume and burn up etc. Typically the rule is 'consume more calories than you burn up and you will put on weight, burn up more than you consume and you will lose weight. Obviously, the extent of how quick this happens depends on factors like age, metabolic rate etc.
    I found a few sums that help you determine calorie needs etc, it came from a magazine we have here in the UK called mens health and fitness.

    1. Weight (pounds) x 11 = Basic calorie intake (Maintenance ammount)

    2.Maintenance amount x 30%, 40%, 50% (depending on how intense you exercise, 30% being lower, 40% medium and 50% high intensity etc). This gives you a rough idea of metabolic rate etc.

    3.maintenance amount x metabolic rate = maintenance total.

    4. maintenance total + 500 = amount of calories consumed daily to maintain bodyweight and grow.

    To reduce weight like you asked, change the added 500 calories to a reduction in 500 calories.

    You could probably pick a few holes in this, but it has worked for me for years. Remember a gram of carbs and protein is 4 calories, whereas a gram of fat is 9 calories. Try working it out, labels on foods nowadays tell you all the nutritional info and sometimes tell you the calories per serving etc anyway.
    Keep re-applying the formula as your weight lowers and be sure to maintain you body weights (1-1.5g of protein per pound of body weight) amount of protein to ensure only fat is burnt and so to spare as much of your lean muscle.

    Train, run, lift, whatever, but a good diet makes it a whole lot easier.

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    Thanks for the info mags. I have already figured my maintenance at about 3200 cals and am on a diet that gives me about 1900 cals. It seems too low but I am never hungry and I have to remind myself to eat so I am assuming I am wrong like usual about fitness stuff. My diet is posted in the nutrition forum under "ANOTHER diet review please" if you want to give it a look and/or correct it.

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