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    Look at my under-developed chest

    As you can see by this picture, my chest is rather underdeveloped compared with my arms and shoulders. A guy with 18" arms should not have a chest that small. I am trying to change this, but I am unsure of what type of a training split to use. In the past, I have gotten good results from working chest twice a week, but I never really got a good split down back then. Tell me how this sounds:

    Chest/Bi's
    Legs/Abs
    Off
    Chest/Tris
    Back/Abs
    Shoulders/Traps
    Off

    This is pretty high volume, but I don't really have many choices. I could also maybe go with this:

    Chest/Tri's
    Legs/Abs
    Off
    Chest/Tris
    Back/Bis
    Shoulders/Abs
    Off

    Tell me what you think...

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    Chest ain't bad, you got no face.

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    do you do any decline pressing movements ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPIKE1257
    Chest ain't bad, you got no face.
    Oh, yeah, I need help with my under-developed face, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM
    do you do any decline pressing movements ?
    Nope, all incline and flat bench.

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    from my experience most people who are not efficient at the flat bb bench experience less then optimum hypertrophy from that exercise. if that is the case with you then I would concentrate on decline pressing movements, which will probably bring you better results.
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    My chest workout is usually

    Either Incline or Flat BB Bench
    Either Incline or Flat DB Bench (depending on what I did for BB)
    Some kind of fly movement (cable, peck deck, or free weights)

    ...just for some background.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM
    from my experience most people who are not efficient at the flat bb bench experience less then optimum hypertrophy from that exercise. if that is the case with you then I would concentrate on decline pressing movements, which will probably bring you better results.
    What do you mean by "not efficient," LAM?

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    IMO and adult male with several years of training under their belt should easily be able to bench the minimum of 100 lbs over their BW for reps
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM
    IMO and adult male with several years of training under their belt should easily be able to bench the minimum of 100 lbs over their BW for reps
    Wow, well I have several years of training experience, but not as an adult. I trained for several years until I was 19, and I stopped for two years. (I just turned 22.) I have been back into it for about three months now. I don't know if you can then say I have three months of experience or three years. However, my reps on BP are 225 lbs, which is clearly not even close to the figures you mentioned.

    My strength is growing, and my size is increasing, but my arms are growing much faster.

    How would you suggest I work in decline? Should I replace my flat bench with decline and see how that works for me?

    Also, what do you think about working chest twice a week?

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    This is open to anyone that has an opinion, not just LAM, BTW.

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    i do a lot more excercises for chest. how many sets is your chest workout?
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    Quote Originally Posted by titans1854
    i do a lot more excercises for chest. how many sets is your chest workout?
    Usually 9 or 10. More if I do low reps.

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    If you never have done decline work I bet your in for some serious dom's the next day or to,what about weighted dip's for your chest development?for an aternitive.

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    bro, its your arms that make ya chest look small, there huge, im kinda the opposite bigger chest in comparison to arms and shoulders. any tips on arms 4 me? i find my chest needs a lot of recovery time. make sure its quality training good form, warm up stretch etc and Make sure it doesnt get used to any set routine, change it up regularly.

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    Weighted dips!

    Also, your arms are bigger than your chest sure, but your chest is still impressive.
    What this means is that when we drop a ball and it falls to the ground, it wasn't the ball that moved (down to the ground), but the ground that moved (up to the ball)

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    I expected to be flamed for this... IMO i think doing some widegrip bp would help put more stress on the outside of your chest... blah blah blah chest is one muscle blah blah, i would try wg bp... if it indeed does hit the outer portion of your chest your chest will grow outward giving you the appearance of having more definition and such... some people my disagree, in my experience i feel it helps add width
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    Quote Originally Posted by cider303
    I expected to be flamed for this... IMO i think doing some widegrip bp would help put more stress on the outside of your chest... blah blah blah chest is one muscle blah blah, i would try wg bp... if it indeed does hit the outer portion of your chest your chest will grow outward giving you the appearance of having more definition and such... some people my disagree, in my experience i feel it helps add width
    You should read this.. Hope you can understand it.
    Isolating the upper, middle and lower pecs (chest)
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    he was looking for people's opinions, thats mine
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    Ok, so decline work, weighted dips, and maybe widen my grip a bit.

    Any thoughts on whether or not to work it twice a week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cider303
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    Thats what I thought. You know nothing of human physiology.
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    What do you think, PreMier?

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    I would do like LAM said, and add a decline movement.. Switch it up a number of ways. Just mix and match your routine as you see fit, but prioritize heavy decline pressing, and minimize flat pressing.
    Incline BB
    Decline BB
    Flat DB
    ***
    Decline BB
    Incline DB
    Flat Flye
    etc..

    Out of your splits, I like the second one better. Are those the only options your willing to do split wise? Just tossing out ideas, but I used to do a push/pull like this

    Day 1:chest/shoulder/tri's
    Day 2:back/rhomboid/bi's
    Day 3:Legs
    Day 4: Off
    Day 5:chest/shoulder/tri's
    Day 6:back/rhomboid/bi's
    Day 7: Off

    And then just continue on with the routine. That way your routine will vary week to week. Hitting certain parts twice weekly, but not always consistently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PreMier
    I would do like LAM said, and add a decline movement.. Switch it up a number of ways. Just mix and match your routine as you see fit, but prioritize heavy decline pressing, and minimize flat pressing.
    Incline BB
    Decline BB
    Flat DB
    ***
    Decline BB
    Incline DB
    Flat Flye
    etc..

    Out of your splits, I like the second one better. Are those the only options your willing to do split wise? Just tossing out ideas, but I used to do a push/pull like this

    Day 1:chest/shoulder/tri's
    Day 2:back/rhomboid/bi's
    Day 3:Legs
    Day 4: Off
    Day 5:chest/shoulder/tri's
    Day 6:back/rhomboid/bi's
    Day 7: Off

    And then just continue on with the routine. That way your routine will vary week to week. Hitting certain parts twice weekly, but not always consistently.
    Thanks for your input, PM. I will definitely use your suggestions.

    As far as the split goes, I'm not too attached to those two I named, but a push/pull split makes for really long workouts - at least for me. I respond best to fairly high volume (about 9 sets per body part). So for Day 1, I'd be doing 27 sets in one workout, which is a lot of sets! I may try it, though. I'm open to change if it'll help balance everything out...

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    Thats close to what im doing. Chest is 3 exercises, at 3 sets a piece. Shoulders is usually one exercise of heavy pressing(3 sets), and then I do front/lateral raises or some rear delt work(3-4 sets). Triceps I usually do 2 exercises, because doing chest hits them.. maybe 6-8 sets total.

    So that comes to around 20-24 sets throughout the workout. If you keep your rest intervals to 60 seconds on the heavy movements, and 30-60sec on the rest, you workout should come in under 60 minutes

    Same goes for back/traps/biceps. More sets on the large movements/muscles and fewer on the smaller muscles. PLUS your hitting them twice a week some weeks, so there is plenty of volume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PreMier
    Thats close to what im doing. Chest is 3 exercises, at 3 sets a piece. Shoulders is usually one exercise of heavy pressing(3 sets), and then I do front/lateral raises or some rear delt work(3-4 sets). Triceps I usually do 2 exercises, because doing chest hits them.. maybe 6-8 sets total.

    So that comes to around 20-24 sets throughout the workout. If you keep your rest intervals to 60 seconds on the heavy movements, and 30-60sec on the rest, you workout should come in under 60 minutes

    Same goes for back/traps/biceps. More sets on the large movements/muscles and fewer on the smaller muscles. PLUS your hitting them twice a week some weeks, so there is plenty of volume.
    Thanks, PreMier.

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    No problem bro. Now I just need some guns like you got lol
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    hey guy,

    IMO you should loosen up the weight and make sure you're squeezing your chest with whatever exercize(s) you do.

    95% of people in the gym use too much weight and don't know how to correctly SQUEEZE the weight up with the correct muscle(s), as opposed to just lifting it, and they don't know how to "peak contract" the muscle at the top.

    So when you do chest, remember these few pointers:
    1. Keep your shoulder blades squeezed back the entire set
    2. SQUEEZE the weight up with your chest, don't push it up using your shoulders
    3. Flex your chest as hard as you can at the top of the movement

    the best BB's are the ones who can feel their muscles during the entire set, and who take it beyond the pain.

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