Thread: An explination for Arnold...well atleast part of it..

My thoughts are that you need grammar and spelling training!

Originally Posted by topolo

My thoughts are that you need grammar and spelling training!

GOOD 1... clap clap... did u write that one by yourself? I mean really props to you, i have nothing to say to that. Take a bow!

Originally Posted by Machher

just thinking that androgen receptors may have built up as a result of his vigorous and intense training producing some great results?

what are your thoughts.

I think Arnold did a lot of steroids.

Yeah, I hear stuff like he only ran small doses of Dbol and Primobolan or winny etc for his cycles, but the sheer mass of the fucker at that time in BB makes me tend to believe the other stories I've heard, like how he was banging shit loads of steroids since he was about fifteen etc and still training in Germany or Austria etc. Really don't know to be sure though, only Arnold and a few close pals will only know that I guess. He's still a legend though, his chest and arms will always be phenomenol.

They all take roids. Period. Roids though don't give them the muscle, they give peopel the capability to train heavier, harder, and to get bigger. They're still great athletes.

yeah, i agree with musclepump. All the athletes are pretty much up on the same level as they all juice (obviously, some do more than others and more different types), but it still demands BB's to have the discipline, determination and overall athletic competitive mind in order to become the best. people tend to think that BB's on gear just sit around and the muscle grows itself just because of the drugs, never thinking about the hours lifting, the sweat poured or the calories consumed or reduced. They are still great athletes and to be honest, BB without steroids would IMO be boring and not half as amazing or inspiring.

Originally Posted by Mags

people tend to think that BB's on gear just sit around and the muscle grows itself just because of the drugs, never thinking about the hours lifting, the sweat poured or the calories consumed or reduced. They are still great athletes and to be honest, BB without steroids would IMO be boring and not half as amazing or inspiring.

I used to think the same thing until recently. I've been meeting a lot or pros and people that used to train with IFBB heavyweights. many of them do not train 1/2 as hard as people would think.

Originally Posted by LAM

I used to think the same thing until recently. I've been meeting a lot or pros and people that used to train with IFBB heavyweights. many of them do not train 1/2 as hard as people would think.

Although I clearly don't have the connections you do, I have also heard this. I've heard that they dope themselves up so much, that it doesn't take as much work to grow. Also, they try not to be too taxing on their bodies because they're already under so much stress from the ultra-high levels of drugs.

regardless...high volume could lead to something that could significantly increase in adrogen receptors. Mabye a secret we could all learn apart from pumping steroids.

Originally Posted by Machher

regardless...high volume could lead to something that could significantly increase in adrogen receptors

most likely any stimulous that "could" cause a significant increase in androgen receptors would obviously effect homeostasis at which point AR sensivitity would probably decrease

The fact that they have to be disciplined at something... when to take their gear, calories, SOMETHING... I think they're cool. I wish they'd all have Dugdale physiques instead of the HGH guts, though.

Originally Posted by LAM

I used to think the same thing until recently. I've been meeting a lot or pros and people that used to train with IFBB heavyweights. many of them do not train 1/2 as hard as people would think.

absotutely.

People said Kevin Levrone never could make it big cuz he would take 3 months off after a competition. Think of what he could do if the freakin guy trained hard all year round.

And i also read a quote from Flex Wheeler commending people who train naturally. This happened after he had the serious medical problems where he couldn't juice anymore. He tried to train naturally, but obviously couldn't get anywhere near his former self. He said something like "i don't know how the hell anyone does it. you don't gain anything".

I've said it before, and i'll say it again. Sure, steroids aren't the entire reason pros get that amazing. But they are the most important reason. Genetics Shmenetics. You take any normal person. You have them bust their ass in the gym and eat a decent diet. You have them abuse steroids for years on end. They may not have the great symmetry and muscle shape some pros are blessed with, but they are gonna be big ass motherfuckers. look at Markus Ruhl. The guy has maybe the worst looking physique in the history of pro BB. but because he is enormous, he actually looks ok.

Originally Posted by Mags

Yeah, I hear stuff like he only ran small doses of Dbol and Primobolan or winny etc for his cycles, but the sheer mass of the fucker at that time in BB makes me tend to believe the other stories I've heard, like how he was banging shit loads of steroids since he was about fifteen etc and still training in Germany or Austria etc. Really don't know to be sure though, only Arnold and a few close pals will only know that I guess. He's still a legend though, his chest and arms will always be phenomenol.

it was actually very large doses of dbol, test, deca and primo. (since the age of 13)

and yes, he's not only a legend, but the greatest BB of all time.

Originally Posted by Flex

look at Markus Ruhl. The guy has maybe the worst looking physique in the history of pro BB. but because he is enormous, he actually looks ok.

so true...

Arnold started at 13 and still ended up that tall? Damn. So much for growth plates closing--at least his, anyways.