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Back Attack
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02-16-2005, 01:14 PM
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... and that's Crufts.
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Back Attack
Everyone must have seen the famous B/W pictures of Franco Columbu doing his rear Lat spread, I saw it on here the other day in a thread with Lee priest pics too, but can't locate it. If anyone has it, can they wing it on here so peeps can have a ganders, cheers. How on earth did he get his lower lats To bulge so round and full at the very bottom of his back. I'm not talking about thick spinal erectors of that part of the lower back I'm talking of the entire lat that looks like a single slab of muscle that is the same thickness from the armpit to the very base of his back, just above his waist/arse. It's incredible and I want my back to have that! Many natural body builders, even the big fuckers, don't tend to have this. If you look at Pumping Iron and various golden age photos, even Arnold has it too, just at a lesser extent. I'm basically asking, how do you get the bottom part of the lat to be the same thickness throughout as the top part? If you watch their form on cable rows, they don't remain uprite, they lean right forward as the cable goes back into the rack and the stack lowers, then use their lower backs to pull them back uprite (obviously with the cable&weight) then they pull close to the stomach (maybe with aslight lean back) at the end of the rep with the upper lats. Didn't know if that little movent at the start of leaning forward (which I thought was suppoused to be bad form) carved out the lower back at all and was maybe one way of making their backs like this. Secondly, is it just mass building exercises like deadlifts that bring it out as i thought they did the inner lower back alongside the spine rather than the lower outer lats? Lastly, is it just the fact that using steroids promotes muscle growth everywhere, so although not directly targeting it, the lower lats would grow due to the indirect outer back exercises and steroid effect?
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02-16-2005, 01:23 PM
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Patrick
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the bottom part of your lats are merely attachment of the muscle. How they are shaped is not going to chage and everyone looks different.
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02-16-2005, 01:37 PM
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oh what! Not that genetic reason biting me in the ass again, it sucks not have certain things! I imagine it is just genetics as you say, your back is huge, really wide and you have real deep lats too and your lower lats kinda have that thing going on that I was talking about, but it doesn't have that whole bulbous look that muscles have when the athletes are on the gear, so I think that does help alittle bit too. Cheers P.
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02-16-2005, 01:39 PM
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Patrick
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Originally Posted by Mags
oh what! Not that genetic reason biting me in the ass again, it sucks not have certain things! I imagine it is just genetics as you say, your back is huge, really wide and you have real deep lats too and your lower lats kinda have that thing going on that I was talking about, but it doesn't have that whole bulbous look that muscles have when the athletes are on the gear, so I think that does help alittle bit too. Cheers P.
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my back is the way it is because I train it and have bulked up. But, the "shape" of my lats has not changed. if you look at a picture of me at 150lbs in the that pose my lats look the same, just not as "beefy".
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02-16-2005, 01:43 PM
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAA! Something ate P! You're a monster, good to see not all great physiques don't just go to the drug users! Good stuff, See what you mean pal.
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02-16-2005, 03:54 PM
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on the Anabolic Diet
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There are 300 pound guys with crappy looking lats, you can make them bigger you can't change their shape or attachment points.
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