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    Cardio when bulking?

    I am of the belief that you shouldn't do cardio while bulking, because every calorie is precious and should be devoted to muscle growth. A friend of mine disagrees, but I don't have a scientific study to back me up.

    Have any of you ever seen a scientific study backing up this concept? If so, please post a link.

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    If you are prone to gaining lots of fat on a bulk you could throw in some cardio to increase nutrient partitioning. For ecto's it would be a definitive 'no.'
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    I think cardio is still necessary during bulking to not gain fat. I lower my cardio to about 15 min per day while bulking
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    I think some cardio is always good. All you have to do is eat a little more food if you want to gain the same amount of weight. The difference is that you will be doing more for your endurance and overall conditioning.
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    As one pro told me about bulking, "Don't do any fucking cardio, ya hear meh? You eat lean, you stay lean. Don' gimme none of that pussy bullshit about yeh needin' cardio while gettin' huge."
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    Quote Originally Posted by musclepump
    As one pro told me about bulking, "Don't do any fucking cardio, ya hear meh? You eat lean, you stay lean. Don' gimme none of that pussy bullshit about yeh needin' cardio while gettin' huge."
    Which pro was that?

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    All throughout my teens and twenties I NEVER did cardio when trying to add size...I believed in allowing all energy reserves to be allocated toward growth. As I entered my 30s I began using cardio year around for health reasons (and b/c I prefer to remain relatively lean all year), and now I use it even while "bulking."


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    I think I remember it being Jablonicky. It was either him, Alves or Gunter, but Alves speaks pretty clear and Gunter I've never heard swear. I have a short memory and go to a lot of shows and workout with a couple pro's (none of the above) so it's hard to keep track of all the "professional advice" I hear.
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    I really think it all depends on each individual. I am very much pro-cardio and I think cardio is good for everyone. However, some people (myself included) have an extremely difficult time gaining any weight. I tried eating more, but there is a limit to what one man can eat per day.... so I have now basically almost cut cardio back to nothing. I am now gaining a couple pounds per week.

    Try doing cardio during your bulk. If you can still manage to gain some weight, then continue cardio because it is really good for you. If not, then drop cardio.

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    I don't do any while bulking but eating right takes care of the fat gains

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    I dont' do cardio when bulking. I achieve greater results that way, and I really don't ever get above 11 or 12% BF, even when on a heavy bulk. If I was older or wanted to remain really lean year 'round, I might consider it like GP does, but at 22 I don't really need it.

    I was asking if you guys knew of any scientific studies to back that up. I found a magazine article, but that's not exactly "peer reviewed."

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    which magazine article?

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    I can't really remember as I was just kinda browsing online when I found it. It was by a doctor.

    If you want, I can dig for it. Just let me know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yanick
    If you are prone to gaining lots of fat on a bulk you could throw in some cardio to increase nutrient partitioning.
    that's the main reason why I ALWAYS do cardio and I am far from a fast gainer. I also don't see the point in being big and strong if you can't run a 100 yards with out passing out
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM
    that's the main reason why I ALWAYS do cardio and I am far from a fast gainer. I also don't see the point in being big and strong if you can't run a 100 yards with out passing out
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    This is off subject, LAM, but how 'bout some more recent pics? Your others are from 2003, and I kinda want to see what a monster can do in 2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatguy
    This is off subject, LAM, but how 'bout some more recent pics? Your others are from 2003, and I kinda want to see what a monster can do in 2 years.

    I'd like to see some too

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    as for me, I love cardio
    Its invigorating...and it makes me feel like im worth something in a way, anyone can lift weights

    It takes real "strength"
    to go all out balls to the wall sprinting/running/etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by myCATpowerlifts
    as for me, I love cardio
    Its invigorating...and it makes me feel like im worth something in a way, anyone can lift weights

    It takes real "strength"
    to go all out balls to the wall sprinting/running/etc
    I agree. Cardio is invigorating, and it displays a different but valuable form of strength.

    However, when something hinders you from reaching a goal (a.k.a. bulking up), I think it should be cut out.

    Next time I bulk, I might try some cardio again, but I tried it before and it hindered my results.

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    i forgot about the whole cardio conditioning aspect of it altogether. That in and of itself might actually help your gains by increasing work capacity (not getting winded as fast on sets of squats etc.).

    I guess in the end its like thatguy said, if you find that gaining weight is getting difficult and adding more food is not an option fuck around with the other side of the equation.
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    I don't think you will find any peer reviewed articles on the subject, just opinions by various experts in the field as to what they think is best based on their experience and self experimentation with their own training and the training of clients.


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    I am going to also put some food for thought on here as well. When gaining size or bulking not only does the muscle have to grow but also the heart has to adapt as well becuase it will be pushing more blood through the body. it is my observation reason why guys come of the juice and loose so much muscle is that their heart has not adapted as well so body is going to return to set point untill the heart is able to keep up with the muscle gain. So end rule is stopping cardio is one of the worst things you can do when bulking becuase not only is it a nutrition partioning agent, but it is a neccessity of life to have as well. Whats the sense of looking good on the outside when we also need to take care of whats going on in the inside. And as you get older cardio becomes even more essential when you hit those late 20's and early 30's when your body begins to slow to naturally due to aging. I have all my clients do 4-5 days cardio in the offseason 20-30 miniutes but I have them eat 20-30 % more caloires to compensate for it and strange thing is that they not only get bigger, but also leaner at same time

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