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Shoulder shrugs
Hello guys.
I have a quick question here on shoulder shrugs. I know a guy who has ended up with quite painful shoulder joints, which he believes (and his doctor seems to agree) is caused by years of performing heavy shoulder shrugs in the gym. I personally have never had any problems with this exercise. Although I admit that I don't do it as regularly as he did. What do you guys think about this?? Cheers! mmuscle http://www.makemuscle.net |
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Metrosexual
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Did he only do shrugs? He did nothing that worked his shoulders but shrugs? If not, then how does he know it was the shrugs? There are way too many factors for this guy to just say it was a particular exercise. I'll give the schmuck the benefit of the doubt and say shrugs did him in. But maybe it wasn't the exercise in particular, perhaps he let his ego choose the weight for him. Maybe he did them with bad form.
Hell, he just may have had genetically weak shoulder joints. Well, you get the point...or at least I hope you do. |
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Amor Fati
Join Date: Jul 2002
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shrugs have almost nothing to do with shoulders except with a lot of weight in your hands your shoulder muscles/tendons/ligaments need to keep your humerus from popping out of its socket (glenoid cavity?)
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Minnesota
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I wonder if maybe he was rolling his shoulders when he was doing them,I did that one time and I could feel pain right away
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Metrosexual
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So, is rolling the shoulders during shrugs a harmful thing? Because that's the way I do them.
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Patrick
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not good at all IMO. You can't take a heavy weight and ask your shoulders to rotate (if you are rolling them back then you are externally rotating them which is even worse as those muscles are really really tiny in comparrison to the internal rotators anc will rip much easier). The upper traps don't rotate your shoulder, they elevate your scapula. Shrugs are intended to do just that, elevate your scapula. |
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Minnesota
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You know! I see people doing that alot but it feel's like it just strains that area to much and it actually hurt when I did it,im assuming you have no pain when you do it so maybe it just work's for you
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I See©
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Rolling the shoulders is such a waste of time, I did them for so long........and got nothing out of it.
The way I do them is I squeeze at the top and hold for 2 seconds the release, squeeze release. It may be hard with alot of weights but the results look good. |
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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I've noticed traps grow quickly, for me anyways.
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A higher realm
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Strict Form And U Should Just Be Hitting Your Traps.....he Must Have Been Doing Something Else. Ive Never Had An Injury Thank God.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Minnesota
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On a side note here,Is there a reason I can shrug 200 # on dbells and when I go to shrug with bbells I can only do about half that? the only thing I can think of is im holding the bbells in front of me as oposed to db's on the side's.my grip fail's me with bb's and not with db's
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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I love shrugs but im starting to get elbow problems from them. I love alternating seated overheads with the dumbells and then shrugs...........Rich
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Wear Some Straps.....im Able To Shrug Much More
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nah i like the straps. witht he straps i can do 120lb(the highest the gym goes) and without em i can only do like 70's or so, id rather compromise my grip for nice traps.
this might be off topic, but what do u work ur traps with, i work them on my back day..is that okay or should i do it on my shoulder day. |
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Pizza the Hut
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I have slowed down my own shrug movements, right now I am working up to 465 where in the past I had 600 on the bar at least once. This is much, much easier on my body, and my endurance in the gym as well.
I have no recent pains from shrugging at all. I did tweak my neck and something in my left backside sometime last year probably from heavy shrugs. If you do them at a moderate and controlled pace I think you should be fine, no shoulder rotation AT ALL. My traps incidently picked up a little size after killing some momentum. |
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Shrugs
O.K it was his form.
I saw him at the gym the other day and he was rolling his shoulders. With I might add a silly weight. You could almost hear his shoulders grinding. mmuscle http://www.makemuscle.net |
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