a pound of what muscle, fat, water?
people say eat 500 calories less, in 1 week if you eat 1000 less you will loose 1 pound
a pound of what muscle, fat, water?
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im glad im not the only one who didnt understand this postOriginally Posted by TCD
if you want to lose weight, you need to lower your caloric intake. if you manage to lower you intake by 3500 calories/week then you will lose a pound of weight/week. wether it is fat, water, or muscle depends on your diet. among other things.
3500 calories = 1 lb not 7000
this also does not make senseOriginally Posted by DDan16
Easy... eat 500 cals less a day and in a week you will lose 1 pound... if your a bodybuilder you better hope to god its not muscle. You have to keep in mind water retention and weigh yourself at the same time of day and such.
500 x 7 = 3500 = 1lb
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how does it not make sense?Originally Posted by stu21Ldn
2 + 2 = 4
oh it is 3500 my mistake... I guess i learned something so dropping it 500 calories is good enough then
hmmOriginally Posted by Musclebeach
not really
well for a start if your on a bulking bulking you would shoot for over 500 calories over maintenace so reducing that by 500 cals would put you at about maintenace in which case you should not lose any weight.
and because you calorfic intake is only a partial factor in weight loss. it also depends on your training. if you drop your calories by 500 and sit on your arse all day your not going to lose as much weight as someone who does an hour of cardio every day.
AGREES 3500 CALORIES IS 1 LB. EAT 500 LESS A DAY AND IN A WEEK YOULL LOSE A LB. (OF FAT I DONT KNOW)Originally Posted by DDan16
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Yeah but you will lose weight, so long as sitting on your arse is what you've always done.if you drop your calories by 500 and sit on your arse all day your not going to lose as much weight as someone who does an hour of cardio every day.
What this means is that when we drop a ball and it falls to the ground, it wasn't the ball that moved (down to the ground), but the ground that moved (up to the ball)
so training and cardio dont come into it at all? bullshitOriginally Posted by Maynard Keenan
OH ITS TRUE....... ITS TRUEOriginally Posted by KarlW
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the point im trying to make is that diet is not the only factor in weight lossOriginally Posted by KarlW
Not quite true, if you are currently eating maintenance and so not losing or gaining weight then yes. If however,like many you are actually slowly gaining weight cause your'e eating too much even without consciously being on a bulk then you may not lose weight, you'll just slow down or stop putting it on.AGREES 3500 CALORIES IS 1 LB. EAT 500 LESS A DAY AND IN A WEEK YOULL LOSE A LB. (OF FAT I DONT KNOW)
What this means is that when we drop a ball and it falls to the ground, it wasn't the ball that moved (down to the ground), but the ground that moved (up to the ball)
agreed.Originally Posted by stu21Ldn
What this means is that when we drop a ball and it falls to the ground, it wasn't the ball that moved (down to the ground), but the ground that moved (up to the ball)
It Depends If Your An Ecto, Meso Or Endomorph. If You Want To Get Down To The Nitty Gritty.
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along with other factors including your skeletal muscle mass and your base metabolic rateOriginally Posted by Maynard Keenan
But Of Course......and In My Case How Much Herb I Smoke A Week. Lol
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?!?! theres a formula between the amount of calories you intake and your weight?? how does this work exactly?
please tell me what this formula is cuz i am having one hell of a time gaining weight that isnt food in my stomach.


ST240 its called BMR, then you factor in your activity rate. Start Here
3500 calories is about a pound of FAT, 1800 calories for about a pound of MUSCLE. Does that factor in water weight, or pure muscle alone - I dont know.
If I drop 1000 calories from my daily diet, I will lose way more than 1 pound a week, no doubt about it. Water weight shifts quickly, if I miss one meal (~650 calories right now) I will lose .5-1.0 pounds.
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Although I understand what Mudge is saying, I must be confused on the phrasing of the first post.
There's no conversion. Energy does not equal mass.
I could show you 1,000 different ways to make up 3,500calories and they would all weigh different amounts.
You are disregarding digestion and the many other processes in your body that will vary in their caloric needs.


We could get into thermogenic foods (foods that when digested raise body temperature), Chris Aceto covers this in his fat loss book. Fat requires virtually no energy to digest and then store, carbs require some depending what they are, then there is protein which is even more thermogenic, and then there are negative calorie foods and things like hot peppers.Originally Posted by LW83
But, these are all things that get more complex. I am talking about slicing a pound of fat off your ass, it will give you about 3500 calories. Take off a pound of muscle, it will give you about 1800 calories worth of heat in a lab setting. How we all arrive there wont always be the same, but BMR and factored activity level will help you get there. Tweaking your diet and such, is outside of the scope of the TRAINING FORUM, so why this thread is even here I dont know![]()
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Originally Posted by Mudge
Good catch, you should move this thread and ban anyone who posted in it.![]()
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energy = mass X accelerationOriginally Posted by LW83
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Originally Posted by Mudge
Why is a pound of fat not 4082.3 calories, and a pound of muscle 1814![]()
453.5924g/1lb
9calories/g of fat
4calories/g of protein.
Water excluded
Originally Posted by westb51
bastard.