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    7000 calories=1pound

    people say eat 500 calories less, in 1 week if you eat 1000 less you will loose 1 pound

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    a pound of what muscle, fat, water?

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    Huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TCD
    Huh?
    im glad im not the only one who didnt understand this post

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    if you want to lose weight, you need to lower your caloric intake. if you manage to lower you intake by 3500 calories/week then you will lose a pound of weight/week. wether it is fat, water, or muscle depends on your diet. among other things.

    3500 calories = 1 lb not 7000

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDan16
    if you want to lose weight, you need to lower your caloric intake. if you manage to lower you intake by 3500 calories/week then you will lose a pound of weight/week. wether it is fat, water, or muscle depends on your diet. among other things.
    this also does not make sense

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    Easy... eat 500 cals less a day and in a week you will lose 1 pound... if your a bodybuilder you better hope to god its not muscle. You have to keep in mind water retention and weigh yourself at the same time of day and such.

    500 x 7 = 3500 = 1lb

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    Quote Originally Posted by stu21Ldn
    this also does not make sense
    how does it not make sense?

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    oh it is 3500 my mistake... I guess i learned something so dropping it 500 calories is good enough then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musclebeach
    Easy... eat 500 cals less a day and in a week you will lose 1 pound... if your a bodybuilder you better hope to god its not muscle. You have to keep in mind water retention and weigh yourself at the same time of day and such.

    500 x 7 = 3500 = 1lb

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    hmm not really
    well for a start if your on a bulking bulking you would shoot for over 500 calories over maintenace so reducing that by 500 cals would put you at about maintenace in which case you should not lose any weight.

    and because you calorfic intake is only a partial factor in weight loss. it also depends on your training. if you drop your calories by 500 and sit on your arse all day your not going to lose as much weight as someone who does an hour of cardio every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDan16
    if you want to lose weight, you need to lower your caloric intake. if you manage to lower you intake by 3500 calories/week then you will lose a pound of weight/week. wether it is fat, water, or muscle depends on your diet. among other things.

    3500 calories = 1 lb not 7000
    AGREES 3500 CALORIES IS 1 LB. EAT 500 LESS A DAY AND IN A WEEK YOULL LOSE A LB. (OF FAT I DONT KNOW)
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    if you drop your calories by 500 and sit on your arse all day your not going to lose as much weight as someone who does an hour of cardio every day.
    Yeah but you will lose weight, so long as sitting on your arse is what you've always done.
    What this means is that when we drop a ball and it falls to the ground, it wasn't the ball that moved (down to the ground), but the ground that moved (up to the ball)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maynard Keenan
    AGREES 3500 CALORIES IS 1 LB. EAT 500 LESS A DAY AND IN A WEEK YOULL LOSE A LB. (OF FAT I DONT KNOW)
    so training and cardio dont come into it at all? bullshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlW
    Yeah but you will lose weight, so long as sitting on your arse is what you've always done.
    OH ITS TRUE....... ITS TRUE
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlW
    Yeah but you will lose weight, so long as sitting on your arse is what you've always done.
    the point im trying to make is that diet is not the only factor in weight loss

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    AGREES 3500 CALORIES IS 1 LB. EAT 500 LESS A DAY AND IN A WEEK YOULL LOSE A LB. (OF FAT I DONT KNOW)
    Not quite true, if you are currently eating maintenance and so not losing or gaining weight then yes. If however,like many you are actually slowly gaining weight cause your'e eating too much even without consciously being on a bulk then you may not lose weight, you'll just slow down or stop putting it on.
    What this means is that when we drop a ball and it falls to the ground, it wasn't the ball that moved (down to the ground), but the ground that moved (up to the ball)

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    Quote Originally Posted by stu21Ldn
    the point im trying to make is that diet is not the only factor in weight loss
    agreed.
    What this means is that when we drop a ball and it falls to the ground, it wasn't the ball that moved (down to the ground), but the ground that moved (up to the ball)

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    It Depends If Your An Ecto, Meso Or Endomorph. If You Want To Get Down To The Nitty Gritty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maynard Keenan
    It Depends If Your An Ecto, Meso Or Endomorph. If You Want To Get Down To The Nitty Gritty.
    along with other factors including your skeletal muscle mass and your base metabolic rate

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    But Of Course......and In My Case How Much Herb I Smoke A Week. Lol
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    ?!?! theres a formula between the amount of calories you intake and your weight?? how does this work exactly?

    please tell me what this formula is cuz i am having one hell of a time gaining weight that isnt food in my stomach.

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    ST240 its called BMR, then you factor in your activity rate. Start Here

    3500 calories is about a pound of FAT, 1800 calories for about a pound of MUSCLE. Does that factor in water weight, or pure muscle alone - I dont know.

    If I drop 1000 calories from my daily diet, I will lose way more than 1 pound a week, no doubt about it. Water weight shifts quickly, if I miss one meal (~650 calories right now) I will lose .5-1.0 pounds.
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    Although I understand what Mudge is saying, I must be confused on the phrasing of the first post.

    There's no conversion. Energy does not equal mass.

    I could show you 1,000 different ways to make up 3,500calories and they would all weigh different amounts.

    You are disregarding digestion and the many other processes in your body that will vary in their caloric needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LW83
    You are disregarding digestion and the many other processes in your body that will vary in their caloric needs.
    We could get into thermogenic foods (foods that when digested raise body temperature), Chris Aceto covers this in his fat loss book. Fat requires virtually no energy to digest and then store, carbs require some depending what they are, then there is protein which is even more thermogenic, and then there are negative calorie foods and things like hot peppers.

    But, these are all things that get more complex. I am talking about slicing a pound of fat off your ass, it will give you about 3500 calories. Take off a pound of muscle, it will give you about 1800 calories worth of heat in a lab setting. How we all arrive there wont always be the same, but BMR and factored activity level will help you get there. Tweaking your diet and such, is outside of the scope of the TRAINING FORUM, so why this thread is even here I dont know
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudge
    Tweaking your diet and such, is outside of the scope of the TRAINING FORUM, so why this thread is even here I dont know

    Good catch, you should move this thread and ban anyone who posted in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Mabry
    and ban anyone who posted in it.

    Dale wants to be banned

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    Quote Originally Posted by LW83
    Energy does not equal mass.
    energy = mass X acceleration
    this is now, i can't change tommrrow
    if i can't change today

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudge
    I am talking about slicing a pound of fat off your ass, it will give you about 3500 calories. Take off a pound of muscle, it will give you about 1800 calories worth of heat in a lab setting. How we all arrive there wont always be the same, but BMR and factored activity level will help you get there. Tweaking your diet and such, is outside of the scope of the TRAINING FORUM, so why this thread is even here I dont know

    Why is a pound of fat not 4082.3 calories, and a pound of muscle 1814

    453.5924g/1lb
    9calories/g of fat
    4calories/g of protein.
    Water excluded

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    Quote Originally Posted by westb51
    energy = mass X acceleration

    bastard.

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