Basic Squat question...

robousy · 03-26-2005, 01:46 PM

Ok - pretty basic question...

I try and use free weights for pretty much all my exercises as I know this is better.

The one place I definitely can't is squats.
You see, it is not the mass the screws me up....its a real pain on my shoulders, I mean, really painful.

So - I use the squat machines as they have the nice cushion thing going on.

Now, I am guessing that this is better than nothing, but would you say that the machine was:

a)Slightly...
b)Medium...
c)Vastly...

Inferior to doing it with the barbell on your shoulders.

THANKS!

DOMS · 03-26-2005, 01:53 PM

If the bar hurts your shoulders, try the Manta.

Don't forget to shop around for a good price.

robousy · 03-26-2005, 01:54 PM

interesting....thks.

DOMS · 03-26-2005, 01:55 PM

Glad I could help. It's on my list of things to get. Right after a new squat rack.

Cardinal · 03-26-2005, 02:33 PM

Yeah a manta ray feels pretty good. Keep in mind it can also significantly change your leverage though. If you have big shoulders, get a big manta ray. The little thing they have at my gym must be meant for a 10 year old girl.

You probably aren't putting the bar low enough. Keep it really low on your back. It should rest on a pad of muscle tissue and feel just fine. If you must, try a pad. Just remember that it can slip off a bit easier if you use one.

Squaggleboggin · 03-26-2005, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardinal

You probably aren't putting the bar low enough. Keep it really low on your back. It should rest on a pad of muscle tissue and feel just fine. If you must, try a pad. Just remember that it can slip off a bit easier if you use one.

I agree. I used to put towels on the back of my neck to pad it, but I realized that the bar just wasn't low enough.

Duncans Donuts · 03-26-2005, 08:59 PM

The manta ray is fan-friggin-tastic.

reg56 · 03-27-2005, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duncans Donuts

The manta ray is fan-friggin-tastic.

lol so random

ihateschoolmt · 03-27-2005, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reg56

lol so random

That's what they were talking about the whole thread.

tjwes · 03-27-2005, 10:12 AM

Rest the bar right on the top of the rear delts.........the traps and rear delts form a natural cradle that will hold and cushion the bar.

You probably have the bar too high on your shoulders.

You are missing out on a lot of benefits by not squatting.

cappo5150 · 03-27-2005, 11:17 AM

Just use a towel, you wont have to spend any money.

reg56 · 03-27-2005, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt

That's what they were talking about the whole thread.

I know, but "fan-friggin-tastic" ?

**Dale Mabry** · 03-27-2005, 12:59 PM

I have the Sting Ray and it is great, it's for front squats.

I would say the machine is vastly inferior to regular squats to answer the initial question.

**P-funk** · 03-27-2005, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

I have the Sting Ray and it is great, it's for front squats.

I would say the machine is vastly inferior to regular squats to answer the initial question.

got a pictureo f the sting ray? I have never seen one.

Squaggleboggin · 03-27-2005, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

got a pictureo f the sting ray? I have never seen one.

If you click on the link for the manta ray above, you can get to it right from that page.

**P-funk** · 03-27-2005, 01:27 PM

thanks.

that doesn't look very comfortable at all.

KarlW · 03-27-2005, 04:32 PM

What's wrong with just using a towel folded over?

DOMS · 03-27-2005, 05:11 PM

Loss of traction.

**Dale Mabry** · 03-27-2005, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by P-funk

thanks.

that doesn't look very comfortable at all.

Actually works quite well. The middle is basically just a big plastic string, it is not solid.

**P-funk** · 03-27-2005, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale Mabry

Actually works quite well. The middle is basically just a big plastic string, it is not solid.

I thought you train olympic lifts? Aren't you squating rack position anyway?

03-26-2005, 01:46 PM	#1
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03-26-2005, 02:33 PM	#5
Cardinal Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,005	Yeah a manta ray feels pretty good. Keep in mind it can also significantly change your leverage though. If you have big shoulders, get a big manta ray. The little thing they have at my gym must be meant for a 10 year old girl. You probably aren't putting the bar low enough. Keep it really low on your back. It should rest on a pad of muscle tissue and feel just fine. If you must, try a pad. Just remember that it can slip off a bit easier if you use one.

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