Thread: Bent rows.

I like to do them. It's a great movement and they will take a bit of a toll on your lower back, but if you keep the weight light enough that you don't have to throw it up and do it with your head up and concentrate on good form and control your back shouldn't feel it too bad.

Unless you are bending way over you should have no real back issues.

I know your not supposed to wear belts all the time, but might it not be a good idea to always wear them on this movement if youve had very minor low back pain for a few years? Like me.

I'm not sure what you mean by minor lower back pain, from muscular fatigue or? I am guessing that is your situation in which case you'd need to strengthen your lower back.

The only time I've had real pains other than fatigue, are pinched nerves, which is anything but minor pain. Training my lower back has been a godsend.

No not muscle fatigue soreness, the other sort. Its actually pretty non-existent right now. I guess I should have been more clear, it started out pretty severe and then was very minor for quite some time and is now almost non-existent. Should i not even worry about it?

Well, if its not muscular you are saying its your spinal column? Have you seen a chiro?

Most people with back problems have muscular issues, from having large breasts or a gut putting strain on the lower back muscles.

Originally Posted by Mudge

Well, if its not muscular you are saying its your spinal column? Have you seen a chiro?

Most people with back problems have muscular issues, from having large breasts or a gut putting strain on the lower back muscles.

Im not at all obese. It was probably just a pull or something huh?

no, i havent been to the chiro.

Thanx for your input.

I'm not sure what you would consider obese to be, but many people have back problems from carrying too much weight in the front

It could have been a strain of some sort yes. I'm not sure what the symptoms would likely be other than having the pain in the same spot every time.

I would like to say mudge that I saw you in a clip doing bent over rows with your feet staggard which I thought was an excellent way of doing them, I feel my back is a lot more supported by my legs and can lift more weight while concentrating on form better..

I liked putting my left leg out in front for stability, but I wondered if it was affecting my left lat development so I stopped. I bend the knees and I keep only put the weight where it feels comfortable, as far as where I lower it to and pull to.

As someone with a pinched nerve issue I have had no real problems doing bent rows, but I am not bending over severely like the old timers used to.

Originally Posted by Mudge

I liked putting my left leg out in front for stability, but I wondered if it was affecting my left lat development so I stopped. I bend the knees and I keep only put the weight where it feels comfortable, as far as where I lower it to and pull to.

As someone with a pinched nerve issue I have had no real problems doing bent rows, but I am not bending over severely like the old timers used to.

All I have been doing on my last 3 months training cycle was the rows in your clip. I added 50bs of gains to the bar in that period. My lats look identical both sides and I do dumbell rows now and there is no strenght differance between them.

I think your feet postion dosn`t matter....the plane of your arm movment is identical as normal bent over rows and so is the angle of the back.. it dosnt matter what your legs are doing but only serving as stabilzers IMO.

In a way I'd agree that it really shouldn't matter, but invariably I think I end up pulling differently on each side

I am not sure if there has been a change yet since I've switched to a more normal stance. I am right handed, so it could be that fact alone that my left lat is slightly different, as well as shape could play a role not just size in terms of what I see in the mirror.

Ok then , would seated rows with a wide grip do the same thing? Seems like the same posture and movements.

hey mudge......i dont think it would affect your lat development with a staggerd stance....BUT from a physical therapy point....your stressing your other muscles differently and this could create some problems or strains.elsewhere...
peace

Hey Mudge, i got a couple questions about your video clips

The Tank Abott bench was amazing. I cant believe he would trust a skinny guy to spot him, lol. I was wondering if you're friends with Glen or Mike Brown. Mike had a scare there because the bar could have broken his neck when he dropped it :X

Is that you doing deadlifts? You use straps for that? Would gloves help as much as straps?

Also, nice job on ripping that phone book in half. You got some large hands!

Originally Posted by njc

Ive always avoided these becuase they look to me like they have to be murder on your lower back. But I guess not huh? Everyone does them, seems like.

I love bent over rows and they have never ever caused me any issues with my lower back, just don't go so heavy that you lose the form.

Will you guys post the video clips that that are being discussed please.

Bentover rows kill my lower back, it must be some kind of genetic thing

I found this but I think he's a little too upright im my opinion.

Originally Posted by Cold Iron

Bentover rows kill my lower back, it must be some kind of genetic thing

Would this be better for you?

want to know how to do bent over rows, deadlifts, etc. correctly with lots of weight and without hurting yourself????

make sure your lower back is arched IN IN IN. if you hunch over you will seriously hurt yourself. before i ever bend over to do bent over rows, deadlifts, squats, good mornings, i always make sure to push my ass out and have my lower back arched in and my lower back muscles contracted. if you uncontract them, youre screwed.

Originally Posted by min0 lee

I found this but I think he's a little too upright im my opinion.

yes, he is too upright. its going to work the shoulders and upper trapezius rather than the rhomboid and upper AND lower trapezius muscles like it really should.

Thx guys, but I have good form.

Mino- I've tried rows like those before, not a big fan.

Usually, I just try to roatate Squats/Deadlifts eachweek and try to get as many days off in between Back and Legs as possible.