Deadlifts

primus_122 · 04-06-2005, 05:15 PM

Im new to deadlifts, i was wondering if you do multiple reps with them? Ive seen guys do it before and they would pyrimid up but only do one rep at a time. Also is the correct way to finish the lift? I see a lot of people drop it from full height, i was wondering if they do this because its dangerous to lower it back down. Thanks for your help

Squaggleboggin · 04-06-2005, 05:23 PM

Definitely do NOT drop the weight. It is NOT improper form to lower it back down; they simply do this when maxing out on special occasions sometimes. Multiple reps are sweet on the deadlift; it'll make you feel almost as good as squats. I do 3x5 deadlift at 205 lbs. currently, and I'm 15 with zero back problems because of it. However, you MUST use absolutely impeccable form or it is true that you will injure yourself. http://www.stumptuous.com/baddl.html That's good deadlift form. I prefer conventional myself, but it's really a matter of preference and body type. Make sure that you use the right weight for you. Don't try to jump up for no reason; use something you're comfortable with and can do with the right form, because you WILL get injured if you go too heavy and have bad form. I can't stress this enough. I love this exercise, and you can too if you use the right form. Just make sure you follow what the page says: back perfectly straight, head up, proper movement throughout. Good luck.

primus_122 · 04-06-2005, 05:45 PM

thanks for your answer, you give good detail, thanks a lot

Squaggleboggin · 04-06-2005, 05:53 PM

You're most welcome. What kind of routine do you have? What are your goals? How long have you been at it?

WilliamB · 04-06-2005, 05:59 PM

Ha is that you in the picture squagglebobbin, what a character. Nice boots whoever is in that picture. At first I thought it was some dorky guy, then I realized the dorky guy had breasts.

primus_122 · 04-06-2005, 06:07 PM

My goal is to gain strangth, and to be noticlibly stong, like "wow, dont want to mess with that guy" you know, that kind of respect. I have been working out for about a year and got serious about 6 months ago. im now changing my routine but i have done a lot of fullbody workouts and enjoyed them very much and saw good results.

Tommy · 04-06-2005, 06:20 PM

I would like to start doing dead's again I was advised by a chiro that doing them would have an impact on me when im older but I really cant see the harm in doing them light weight high rep I tested this the other day and had no pain with it and it felt awesome to do them again

WilliamB · 04-06-2005, 09:20 PM

Of course a chiropracter would tell someone to not do deads. I could see a chiro telling people any heavy lifting is bad, those winnies lol. Did he say how it would effect you when you got older? Deads are definetly one of my favorite lifts now a days, couldnt stop doing them.

Twigz · 04-06-2005, 10:58 PM

After I started seeing a Chiro my Deadlifts got stronger. Big jumps in weight. My Chiro asks me all the time how my workouts are going, and thinks that its great that my deadlifts are getting stronger.

Ask him what type of workouts he does. Then laugh at him when he says he doesn't.

primus_122 · 04-08-2005, 01:59 PM

also real quick, do i lean back on the top of the movment?

kraziplaya · 04-08-2005, 05:41 PM

Some People Hate Deadlifts And Some People Love Em...you Def Gotta Learn The Form Properly Or You Can Hurt Yourself Very Badly...dont Drop The Weight And Doin Multiple Reps Is Fine..i Usually Do A Rep, Come All The Way Down,exhale,then Inhale.hold.. And Go Back Up Again..dont Do Them More Than Once A Week Cause It Takes A Little More Time To Heal Your Lower Back When Goin Heavy, And It Will Widen Your Waist Which Can Be A Good Or BaD THING

X Ring · 04-08-2005, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by primus_122

also real quick, do i lean back on the top of the movment?

That is a called a hyper and there is no benefit to doing so. In some comps you have to but the only thing you will gain from doing that is an increased chance of injury. Simply come all the way to a normal standing position.
Deadlifts are probably the single best exercise you can ever do if you do them right, or one of the worst if you let your ego take control and sacrafice form for too much weight.

WilliamB · 04-09-2005, 05:54 PM

Hey Kraziplaya how about next time you dont use a capital letter to start each word in your sentances, quite annoying and not particulary easy to read.

If I dont do deadlifts on leg day when would be a good day to do them.

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WilliamB · 04-09-2005, 05:54 PM

Wow it used Smiley faces for O's in the words Off ? i think i did this :0

Squaggleboggin · 04-09-2005, 09:00 PM

If not on leg day, I'd say on back day. But that's just me. Personally, I just do deadlifts and squats together.

Deeznuts · 04-10-2005, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by primus_122

My goal is to gain strangth, and to be noticlibly stong, like "wow, dont want to mess with that guy" you know, that kind of respect. I have been working out for about a year and got serious about 6 months ago. im now changing my routine but i have done a lot of fullbody workouts and enjoyed them very much and saw good results.

Deadlifts will without a doubt add mass. Also, keep pushing youself. Deadlift's one of the few excercises where your strength will sky rocket!

Deeznuts · 04-10-2005, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

If not on leg day, I'd say on back day. But that's just me. Personally, I just do deadlifts and squats together.

Being a fan of both excercises, I found that seperating your quads and hams allows you to do one each day. If both excercises are done on the some day you'll exhuast yourself and your legs. Both squats and deadlifts are very tough excercises, and they'll take it out of you.

**Mudge** · 04-10-2005, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by primus_122

Ive seen guys do it before and they would pyrimid up but only do one rep at a time. Also is the correct way to finish the lift? I see a lot of people drop it from full height, i was wondering if they do this because its dangerous to lower it back down.

That would be ramping up, a pyramid has more than one angle.

Dropping the weight in powerlifting would negate the lift, in bodybuilding it would remove the negative portion of the lift which is argued to be more important than the positive. So either way, the weight should not be dropped. Only Olympic lifters to my knowledge drop any weights in movements they perform.

Uzi9 · 04-10-2005, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mudge

That would be ramping up, a pyramid has more than one angle.

Dropping the weight in powerlifting would negate the lift, in bodybuilding it would remove the negative portion of the lift which is argued to be more important than the positive. So either way, the weight should not be dropped. Only Olympic lifters to my knowledge drop any weights in movements they perform.

Unless you just done a rep that pushed your form to much, then I would say dropping it might be the right thing to do to avoid any chance of injury from the negative.

Then dropping it could be an option but you shouldn`t push that hard on deadlifts so that your form suffers a great deal.

Uzi9 · 04-10-2005, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Deeznuts

Being a fan of both excercises, I found that seperating your quads and hams allows you to do one each day. If both excercises are done on the some day you'll exhuast yourself and your legs. Both squats and deadlifts are very tough excercises, and they'll take it out of you.

I just did 5 sets of squats and 5 sets of deadlifts today.... felt fine and pushed hard as posssible.

**Mudge** · 04-10-2005, 12:56 PM

It should be much easier to lower a deadlift than raise it up, there should be virtually no risk of poor form on lowering it.

If you watch Andy Bolton's 933 dead he lowers it just fine, after holding it up top for several seconds to boot. If someone "has to" drop it, they probably shouldn't have lifted it. The deadlift is a taxing lift, if you are dropping it out of laziness just pick something else.

Deeznuts · 04-11-2005, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Uzi9

I just did 5 sets of squats and 5 sets of deadlifts today.... felt fine and pushed hard as posssible.

My hat's off to you then man

I usually can't get the energy to do those hard excercises back to back.

Deeznuts · 04-11-2005, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mudge

That would be ramping up, a pyramid has more than one angle.

Dropping the weight in powerlifting would negate the lift, in bodybuilding it would remove the negative portion of the lift which is argued to be more important than the positive. So either way, the weight should not be dropped. Only Olympic lifters to my knowledge drop any weights in movements they perform.

In powerlifting, dropping the weight knocks you out of the meet completely. So I try to never do so when working out. Usually, if you can get it off the ground, you can get it the rest of the way up. That first movement is the one that always kicks my ass. lol

Uzi9 · 04-11-2005, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Deeznuts

My hat's off to you then man

I usually can't get the energy to do those hard excercises back to back.

How many days a week do you train?

jram · 04-16-2005, 06:53 PM

I'm 67 years young and include DL's in my back routine. I do 5X2's (twice-total 10reps). I personally do the DL's this way because I find that at times I lose the strict form after 3+ reps. By doing 2's, I can concentrate on the proper form, recover well and go again.

Peace

Deeznuts · 04-17-2005, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Uzi9

How many days a week do you train?

5..(monday, tuesday, thursday, friday, saturday)

Check out my journal to see the split I trained with for competition.

min0 lee · 04-17-2005, 02:07 PM

Sacto95827 · 07-13-2005, 04:57 PM

How bad is it if you roll your shoulders forward when performing deadlifts? It seems as though gravity is taking my shoulders down, plus if I rolled my shoulders back during the lift, I think the bar would hit my legs...

NeedMuscleMass · 07-13-2005, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

Definitely do NOT drop the weight. It is NOT improper form to lower it back down; they simply do thi

04-06-2005, 05:15 PM	#1
primus_122 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: WI Posts: 144	Deadlifts Im new to deadlifts, i was wondering if you do multiple reps with them? Ive seen guys do it before and they would pyrimid up but only do one rep at a time. Also is the correct way to finish the lift? I see a lot of people drop it from full height, i was wondering if they do this because its dangerous to lower it back down. Thanks for your help
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04-06-2005, 05:45 PM	#3
primus_122 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: WI Posts: 144	thanks for your answer, you give good detail, thanks a lot
	Im 18

04-06-2005, 06:07 PM	#6
primus_122 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: WI Posts: 144	My goal is to gain strangth, and to be noticlibly stong, like "wow, dont want to mess with that guy" you know, that kind of respect. I have been working out for about a year and got serious about 6 months ago. im now changing my routine but i have done a lot of fullbody workouts and enjoyed them very much and saw good results.
	Im 18

04-06-2005, 06:20 PM	#7
Tommy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 162	I would like to start doing dead's again I was advised by a chiro that doing them would have an impact on me when im older but I really cant see the harm in doing them light weight high rep I tested this the other day and had no pain with it and it felt awesome to do them again
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04-06-2005, 10:58 PM	#9
Twigz Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 408 Photos: 4	After I started seeing a Chiro my Deadlifts got stronger. Big jumps in weight. My Chiro asks me all the time how my workouts are going, and thinks that its great that my deadlifts are getting stronger. Ask him what type of workouts he does. Then laugh at him when he says he doesn't.
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04-06-2005, 05:23 PM	#2
Squaggleboggin Functional Lifting = Life Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,540 Photos: 3	Definitely do NOT drop the weight. It is NOT improper form to lower it back down; they simply do this when maxing out on special occasions sometimes. Multiple reps are sweet on the deadlift; it'll make you feel almost as good as squats. I do 3x5 deadlift at 205 lbs. currently, and I'm 15 with zero back problems because of it. However, you MUST use absolutely impeccable form or it is true that you will injure yourself. http://www.stumptuous.com/baddl.html That's good deadlift form. I prefer conventional myself, but it's really a matter of preference and body type. Make sure that you use the right weight for you. Don't try to jump up for no reason; use something you're comfortable with and can do with the right form, because you WILL get injured if you go too heavy and have bad form. I can't stress this enough. I love this exercise, and you can too if you use the right form. Just make sure you follow what the page says: back perfectly straight, head up, proper movement throughout. Good luck.

04-06-2005, 05:53 PM	#4
Squaggleboggin Functional Lifting = Life Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,540 Photos: 3	You're most welcome. What kind of routine do you have? What are your goals? How long have you been at it?

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04-06-2005, 09:20 PM	#8
WilliamB Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 703	Of course a chiropracter would tell someone to not do deads. I could see a chiro telling people any heavy lifting is bad, those winnies lol. Did he say how it would effect you when you got older? Deads are definetly one of my favorite lifts now a days, couldnt stop doing them.

04-08-2005, 01:59 PM	#10
primus_122 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: WI Posts: 144	also real quick, do i lean back on the top of the movment?
	Im 18

04-08-2005, 05:41 PM	#11
kraziplaya Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: VA Posts: 527 Photos: 1	Some People Hate Deadlifts And Some People Love Em...you Def Gotta Learn The Form Properly Or You Can Hurt Yourself Very Badly...dont Drop The Weight And Doin Multiple Reps Is Fine..i Usually Do A Rep, Come All The Way Down,exhale,then Inhale.hold.. And Go Back Up Again..dont Do Them More Than Once A Week Cause It Takes A Little More Time To Heal Your Lower Back When Goin Heavy, And It Will Widen Your Waist Which Can Be A Good Or BaD THING

04-09-2005, 05:54 PM	#13
WilliamB Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 703	Hey Kraziplaya how about next time you dont use a capital letter to start each word in your sentances, quite annoying and not particulary easy to read. If I dont do deadlifts on leg day when would be a good day to do them. Monday:Legs Tues:Chest/Tris Wed:Back/Bis Thurs:HIIT Friff Sat:Arms/Shoulders Sunff

04-09-2005, 09:00 PM	#15
Squaggleboggin Functional Lifting = Life Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,540 Photos: 3	If not on leg day, I'd say on back day. But that's just me. Personally, I just do deadlifts and squats together.

04-10-2005, 12:56 PM	#21
Mudge Pizza the Hut Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,027 Photos: 1	It should be much easier to lower a deadlift than raise it up, there should be virtually no risk of poor form on lowering it. If you watch Andy Bolton's 933 dead he lowers it just fine, after holding it up top for several seconds to boot. If someone "has to" drop it, they probably shouldn't have lifted it. The deadlift is a taxing lift, if you are dropping it out of laziness just pick something else.
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jram Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 102	I'm 67 years young and include DL's in my back routine. I do 5X2's (twice-total 10reps). I personally do the DL's this way because I find that at times I lose the strict form after 3+ reps. By doing 2's, I can concentrate on the proper form, recover well and go again. Peace
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07-13-2005, 04:57 PM	#28
Sacto95827 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 116 Photos: 2	How bad is it if you roll your shoulders forward when performing deadlifts? It seems as though gravity is taking my shoulders down, plus if I rolled my shoulders back during the lift, I think the bar would hit my legs...