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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Indiana
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Best Plateau Buster for Benchpress
I'm stuck at a 205 triplet right now. 4th set I'm getting up 215 for one rep. I'm nearing the end of a bulk diet and weigh about 167 now. Should I go back to DB bench now? I did those for about a month last time and switched back to the bar and had a nice gain in weight. Any other ideas?
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A higher realm
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: A PRISON IN HELL
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I would go heavy on flat and incline dumbbells for a while.
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POWERS OF THE HERB OPEN UP THE MIND......SEEK DEEP INSIDE.....TELL ME WHAT YOU FIND
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Lookin' for abs !
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whats your warmups look like ? Are you warming up the muscles or fatiguing them before you get to the working sets? I'm way guilty of the later.
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My Last Journal Before The One You're Reading Now
Old Journals : My P/RR/S Journal My GWcaton Journal My Bulking Journal Just remember, when you think you're done you've just started . DEADBOLT . 2005 |
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My Role Model
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 15,896
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Deadlifts
![]() Seriously, it helped me break through plateaus in bench. |
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Obstacles don't have to stop you. If you run into a wall, don't turn around and give up. Figure out how to climb it, go through it, or work around it.
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Pizza the Hut
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Stop heavy flat benching and move onto something else. If you train the same movement every week at 90% or heavier (5 reps about), you will after about the 3rd week overtain your CNS.
However it depends why you are stuck, which is what you need to judge yourself. Your back or triceps could be holding you back, who knows. |
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Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench
Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks |
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Amor Fati
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,798
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using myself as an example: i got 245 for 2 on flat bench, then i switched to floor presses for three weeks linearly periodizing from triples to singles and just yesterday i flat benched again and hit 255 for 3 easy reps, probably could've hit it for 5-6 if i had a spotter around and i was just going for 1 all out set. |
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"...we have to remember that training is a complicated dance of stimuli and response. Our goal is to understand how to manipulate the stimuli in order to evoke the responses we desire." -Nathan J. Polenchek
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Indiana
Posts: 60
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185 x 8 205 x3 x3 x3 Last two sessions I've done 215 x 1 after the triplet. Inc Flyes 35x10, 40X9, 45x7 Inc DB Press 70x10, 75x7, 80x4 Pec Dec 120x10, 130x8, 140x6 Decline Super Slow machine 220x6 This is my chest day, after this I work biceps two exercises for six sets, the last one being a hammer curl dropset. |
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17 sets for chest is a bit much IMO. I only do 9-12 sets and I'm making very nice gains. More is not always better. |
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Pizza the Hut
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I have gone as high as 18 sets for back and I think 14 for chest, and there is no way I'd do 14 sets now. However some people do condition themselves to do that kind of volume, Metal Militia powerlifters do rather high volume that I look at and picture myself just hurting and getting hurt far too often.
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Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench
Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks |
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Indiana
Posts: 60
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It's a lot of sets but it has never bothered me because I do heavy weight with low reps. Next month I am starting to change my diet and go lighter with more reps with a goal of getting leaner and building endurance. I will probably cylce this way for two months and go back to lifting heavy. Thanks for all the input! |
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 79
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my presses all went up when i started increasing lat strength from weighted pullups.
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: So.Cal.
Posts: 321
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Surprised no one has mentioned rest. As much as most of us hate to do it. Resting for a week, every 12 weeks or so really does help us grow. Occasionally we all need a break.
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"Know your limits... but never stop trying to exceed them." --Anon.
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this pic is not real
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Ks
Posts: 482
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There could be all sorts of reasons for your bench not going up. Generally I would say work your TRI-ceps harder/heavier, take a break from the actual flat barbell bench and use dumbbells for a few weeks, like others have mentioned too work your lats and get stronger on deadlifts. All of these different body parts contribute on a big bench so GANG UP on that plateau and show it that YOU are the boss.
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Canine club CEO
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I no longer do any type of flat pressing. also my sets for chest are very low volume. Today for instant
Incline bench 80% 1rm until failure. rest pause 15 deep breath again until failure and repeat for the third time. lightweight cable crossover doing lots of reps. That's it for chest. |
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Pizza the Hut
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Have you tried the dumbells? That should suit you just fine at least for awhile.
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Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench
Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks |
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Gym ratt/Part-time pimp
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as already stated I would switch to another mass builder for the chest. personally I prefer heavy bb work to db work. I would also look into a bench routine if you are serious about benching and throwing up big weights.
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Registered User
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No I havent tried dumbells, guess I should look for a proper routine
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