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    need help with chest

    ok my upper chest is alright lookin but the lower outsides of both pecs need mor help

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    You should check out the sticky in this forum. You can't really isolate a specific part of your chest, but from what I've learned from gopro, you can "emphasize" it. He advised me to start replacing my flat chest movements with decline (decline bench, decline flyes), so we'll see how that holds up.

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    should i do decline with heavy weight or light?

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    dumbbells at all angles. Flys. Cable crossovers at different angles. No barbells required.

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    will dips help round the bottom out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenwood
    will dips help round the bottom out?
    Dips are for your chest not your glutes
    What this means is that when we drop a ball and it falls to the ground, it wasn't the ball that moved (down to the ground), but the ground that moved (up to the ball)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenwood
    will dips help round the bottom out?
    The whole chest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlW
    Dips are for your chest not your glutes

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    KarlW, im talkin about the bottom of my chest

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    You cant isolate a specific area of the chest.

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    i know you cant........i just got done doing 5 sets of decline flys and 3 sets of decline dumbell benchpress, will that stuff help my chest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenwood
    i know you cant........i just got done doing 5 sets of decline flys and 3 sets of decline dumbell benchpress, will that stuff help my chest?
    sure, but it'll only help out your chest as a whole. Your whole chest will benefit from that workout. Imho, it might "emphasize" your lower chest a bit more, but that doesn't mean your upper chest won't benefit from it neither.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenwood
    i know you cant........i just got done doing 5 sets of decline flys and 3 sets of decline dumbell benchpress, will that stuff help my chest?
    Sounds good to me. I would start with the dips first then the decline benchpress and do flyes last.

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    thanks for the great advice guys

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    [QUOTE=BiggerNstronger]dumbbells at all angles. Flys. Cable crossovers at different angles. No barbells required.[/QUOTE

    I agree, dumbells are the best tools for shaping a muscle. You can just get such a variety of movements with them, whereas with a barbell you are a little tied down movement wise. Although nothing beats straight barbell bench press for gaining 'overall' mass.

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    i think i wil start using dumbells for my chest

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenwood
    should i do decline with heavy weight or light?
    Thats your genetics. I generally just do flat pressing and some occasional inclines and most of my mass IS the outside of the chest.
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    I work for strength and I already do flat DB presses and flies. What sort of added benefits could I expect if I were to add inclined DB presses and/or flies? What's the main difference as to what muscles are worked? Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmuscle
    ..... I agree, dumbells are the best tools for shaping a muscle. .....
    I thought the discussion was over. You CAN'T shape a muscle. Your muscle shape is pre-determined by your genetic make up. There have been some studies which indicate stretching may have an affect on overall muscle tone, but nothing has proved you can build a specific part of any muscle. You can somewhat change the definition in some muscle groups such as the deltoids and triceps, but only because each of these muscle groups have multiple heads which connect and move slightly different from one another. Dumbbells are great tools, but they cannot shape your chest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin
    I work for strength and I already do flat DB presses and flies. What sort of added benefits could I expect if I were to add inclined DB presses and/or flies? What's the main difference as to what muscles are worked? Thanks.
    Incline presses and flys will incorporate the front deltoid a bit more. You may also notice that you aren't able to use the same amount of weight with the incline position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRoyalOne
    I thought the discussion was over. You CAN'T shape a muscle. Your muscle shape is pre-determined by your genetic make up. There have been some studies which indicate stretching may have an affect on overall muscle tone, but nothing has proved you can build a specific part of any muscle. You can somewhat change the definition in some muscle groups such as the deltoids and triceps, but only because each of these muscle groups have multiple heads which connect and move slightly different from one another. Dumbbells are great tools, but they cannot shape your chest.
    I think he was just saying that he likes using dumbbells more than he likes using barbells, and that he's had better results with the DBs. I don't think he was suggesting 'shaping' the muscles in the literal way, but just that the dumbbells are superior for working them in comparison to the barbell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin
    I think he was just saying that he likes using dumbbells more than he likes using barbells, and that he's had better results with the DBs. I don't think he was suggesting 'shaping' the muscles in the literal way, but just that the dumbbells are superior for working them in comparison to the barbell.
    OK I'll give him that.
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