Thread: Weight belts

There isn't a yes or no answer. Some say 'yes' others say 'no'. Learn about what they are supposed to do, use one for a while if you like, then decide for yourself. I use one on sets of 5 reps or less, as with bent over rows, and squats, but I totally understand the agrument for not using them.

Some do and some dont, some that do ONLY do so on a final heavy set.

belts are unnecessary IMO unless going for a competition max. learn how/why they are used and make your judgement, most people are completely ignorant of how to use one and walk around with it on during their whole arm workout

Originally Posted by Yanick

belts are unnecessary IMO unless going for a competition max. learn how/why they are used and make your judgement, most people are completely ignorant of how to use one and walk around with it on during their whole arm workout

if seen people wear it during leg extensions !

Originally Posted by LAM

if seen people wear it during leg extensions !

that is my absolute favorite!!

Originally Posted by LAM

if seen people wear it during leg extensions !

LMAO now thats classic

Originally Posted by LAM

if seen people wear it during leg extensions !

I never wore weight belts until I herniated a disc really bad and now I wear a weight built during all exercises (including leg extensions) to not allow my back to move including leg extensions. Call me a pussy, but its better than further hurting myself.

weight belts are not made to "not let your back move."

i've heard of people wearing them because it makes them more aware of keeping a tight core when doing the big lifts, but that is not how weight belts are intended to work. if you are wearing a weight belt properly, it is difficult to breath and extremely uncomfortable because the whole point of them is to give your abs something to push against to increase intra-abdominal pressure.

I would recommend NOT wearing a belt at first since your just starting to do deads. Go light and then see how your back feels after you do them a few times. Dont get carried away with heavy weights until you know how your back will respond because there is no doubting the fact that deadlifts WILL put some strain on your lower back, whether its good strain or not will be determined on how your back tolerates the movements.

I wear one for squats and deads.

I think it's great to see people run around their whole workout wearing them. Gives me something to laugh at.

Originally Posted by ZAGLOBA

I never wore weight belts until I herniated a disc really bad and now I wear a weight built during all exercises (including leg extensions) to not allow my back to move including leg extensions. Call me a pussy, but its better than further hurting myself.

I have 2 completely herniated discs at S1/S2 and L4/L5 and I never wear a belt. you won't strengthen the lower lumbar if you always wear a belt.

Originally Posted by Yanick

weight belts are not made to "not let your back move."

i've heard of people wearing them because it makes them more aware of keeping a tight core when doing the big lifts, but that is not how weight belts are intended to work. if you are wearing a weight belt properly, it is difficult to breath and extremely uncomfortable because the whole point of them is to give your abs something to push against to increase intra-abdominal pressure.

Is this actually INCREASING risk of hernia rather than NOT wearing one and keeping a tight core?

If I had an injury, I'd rather just take a small shot to the ego and lower the weight than take a big shot to my body later on by getting injured again because I've nurtured it.

Belts are about as useless as my wife is!

Originally Posted by LAM

I have 2 completely herniated discs at S1/S2 and L4/L5 and I never wear a belt. you won't strengthen the lower lumbar if you always wear a belt.

I don't lift any weights right now. How did you rehab your back to the point you could go back to the gym? How much time did you take off from lifting?

Originally Posted by Maynard Keenan

Belts are about as useless as my wife is!

Sounds like you're trying to use sarcasm in which case you should have said "useful".

Whenever I have had any nagging lower back pains or strains, then I have used a belt. Otherwise I don't bother.

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I dont bother...

Originally Posted by LAM

if seen people wear it during leg extensions !

I see this guy that comes to the gym i go to, he walks in....elbows and knee`s strapped, puts a weight belt on..... put his gloves on....then does an arm workout

Originally Posted by ZAGLOBA

I don't lift any weights right now. How did you rehab your back to the point you could go back to the gym? How much time did you take off from lifting?

after the accident I took off completely for about 6 months. then started back slowly. went back down to 135 on back squats with no belt going ATF. it's taken about 7 years to get my low back up to about 90%. I can do everything now with out a belt with the exception of dead lifts, I can't do them anymore at all.

How did you injure yourself LAM?

Originally Posted by KarlW

Is this actually INCREASING risk of hernia rather than NOT wearing one and keeping a tight core?

why would you think that?

Does Wearing a Weight Belt Really Protect Your Back?

By Paul Chek

The trend to wear a weight belt has extended beyond the gym. Trash collectors, truck drivers, and construction workers often spend their entire workday wrapped in a weight belt. Some companies have gone so far as to make it a mandatory safety policy that all their employees wear a back harness.

Visit any Home Depot, Office Club, or take a look at the waist of your local package delivery person. What do these employees all have in common? They're all wearing weight belts! Next thing you know, it will not only be against the law to drive without a seatbelt, it will be against the law to operate a vehicle without a weight belt!

What's going on here? Do weight belts really protect our back? Will they make us stronger? Can the estimated 35-40 percent of people reporting back pain each year, or the 70 percent of the population who will suffer from at least one episode of back pain in their lives find relief, and possibly even avoid surgery, by making a weight belt a habit?

Before I answer these questions, try to dig up recent pictures of the world's best Olympic weightlifters in competition, but not the American weightlifters who are losing the struggle to achieve international respect.

Look at photos of European weight lifters who are continuously breaking records and winning world and Olympic titles. Isn't it interesting that Europeans never use belts when they perform the snatch lift? They're rarely seen using one for the clean and jerk!

When Did Belt Use Get Started?

A look through David Webster's book, The Iron Game, demonstrates that there is a long history of belt use in connection with heavy weight training.

Thomas Inch, publisher of Scientific Weight Training (1905), is shown pressing two adult females overhead with one hand, "while wearing a weight lifting belt." This guy was no slouch either. He could clean and jerk over 200 pounds. Not impressed? Perhaps I should mention that he performed all this lift using only one hand.

One has to wonder, what is it that leads a lifter to use a belt? Is it direction from coaches, did these particular lifters have back pain in their lifting history, did they only wear the belts when performing competition or "max" lifts, or was a belt simply looked upon as an insurance policy?

With a long history of corset use in the medical field, particularly for back injury, perhaps the lifters have been influenced by the medical approach to treating back pain. Corsets have been used since the early 1900's for the treatment of Scoliosis and back pain and quite possibly much longer.

Therefore it is logical that a lifter, wanting to make the right decision, would choose to use a belt based on the medical establishment's use of belts, especially considering the history and treatment of back pain dates all the way back to 1500 BC!

Did Developmental Man Wear Weight Belts?

Regardless of your opinion about the origin of man, if you believe in God, you have to wonder why he didn't provide weight belts as standard-issue equipment. On second thought, maybe he did, and we just don't know how to use them correctly. Perhaps we abuse our bodies, which creates a dysfunction in our "natural weight belt" and causes us to be reliant on an artificial one.

Belts, Are They as Good as People Say They Are?

Certainly, if you could come up with a product that supposedly reduced pain at the same time that it improved performance, or at least appeared to, you could make A LOT OF MONEY!

Just take a look around you next time you are at the lumberyard, warehouse, or office supply store. Chances are you will see employees wearing belts. As I eluded to in the introduction, many furniture moving companies, chain store organizations and package delivery companies have made it mandatory for employees to wear belts.

Have the decisions made by companies, corporations, workers and gym members been based on sound research? Perhaps. But maybe it has been the scare tactics and strong marketing techniques of belt companies that have helped people make their decision.

There is certainly no shortage of claims being made by belt manufacturers. For example, here are two claims I pulled directly from the "Valeo" belt company's web site:

The support helps workers perform their duties while helping to protect their back from stress and strain damage.
Reduces the likelihood of pain or injury for a variety of activities.

If you can market a product based on fear and emotion (both of which are highly correlated with the back pain experience), chances are you will sell that product and lots of it! Famous speaker, Zig Ziglar, states that F-E-A-R is really False Evidence Appearing Real. This, in my opinion, is the case with weight belts in general.

Apparently, the evidence supporting the use of back belts did not even appear real to Lahad (JAMA 1994;272:1286-91) who identified 190 articles from 1966 to 1993 that focused on various interventions for the prevention of low back pain. He concluded that sufficient evidence was unavailable to recommend the use of mechanical back supports for the prevention of back pain.

In another study conducted by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health, prophylactic use of back belts for healthy workers was not recommended because of a lack of scientific evidence promoting their benefit (Spine Vol. 23, No. 19, pp 2104-2109, 1998).

There are also many other studies indicating belt use provides no significant improvement in performance or reduction in the user's chance of injury (see original article).

Getting to the Bottom of the Elusive Obvious

To make this review of belt use complete, it must be stated that there are numerous studies indicating the use of back belts, weight belts and lumbar corsets improves performance, endurance, and reduce chances of injury.

I have sited these studies in the reference list (see original article). Even though there are studies demonstrating a supposed increase in performance while using weight belts, there are many, if not more, studies indicating weight belts are damaging and even worse, create dysfunction in their users.

As most of you reading this article are aware, many gyms have racks of weight belts, as a service to their members. I have already mentioned their widespread use in the industrial workplace.

So then, if as stated above, a government agency devoted to occupational health and safety doesn't support belt use due to lack of scientific evidence, then what are the belts providing that lead people to believe they help reduce pain, prevent injury or improve performance? (see original article for expanded details as to why this is true)

Conclusion

In this article I discussed several legitimate considerations regarding chronic use of corsets, back belts, and weight lifting belts. Available research clearly demonstrates that belts are unable to stabilize the spine at a segmental level, therefore only stabilizing the torso.

Gross stabilization, as provided by belts, may allow you to lift more weight than you could without the belt, indicating a stabilizer dysfunction within your body. The increased weight being lifted as afforded to the lifter by the belt will likely serve to traumatize the spine due to increased levels of compression, torsion and sheer, increasing the potential for a serious injury.

Caution should be exercised by those using belts to increase "proprioception," as a belt is clearly a form of "exteroceptive stimuli".

When the belt is removed, it is likely to have accomplished little in improving proprioception, leaving the lifter with an increased risk of injury secondary to belt usage.

My clinical treatment of workers and athletes with spine injuries has shown that chronic use of weight lifting belts and back belts is highly correlated with sensory-motor amnesia of the deep abdominal. Finally, weaning yourself off a belt must be done carefully and in concert with evaluation and treatment of any stabilizer deficit found in the torso.

Paul Chek Institute March 2001

Originally Posted by Uzi9

How did you injure yourself LAM?

got rear-ended by some chick on a highway in traffic. I was at a standstill she hit me going about 60. she did like 25K worth of damage to my BMW and she totalled her Celica.

I used to use one, but hurt my back when I felt the belt slip a little on the first squat. (Let me repeat that. It was the belt slipping that caused the injury, not the weight.) I took time off from back work (about 3 weeks) then started back in with no belt (or neck pad.) I am just about to the point I was at before stopping, and feel stronger than I was. I am still ramping up to make sure I can handle the load with no ill effects, but I feel much better without use of the belt.

Originally Posted by LAM

got rear-ended by some chick on a highway in traffic. I was at a standstill she hit me going about 60. she did like 25K worth of damage to my BMW and she totalled her Celica.

Wow, thats one for the "never should have been given a license" files.

Originally Posted by LAM

after the accident I took off completely for about 6 months. then started back slowly. went back down to 135 on back squats with no belt going ATF. it's taken about 7 years to get my low back up to about 90%. I can do everything now with out a belt with the exception of dead lifts, I can't do them anymore at all.

Did you do reverse hyperextensions to get your back stronger, or did you just start lifting again the same way you did before, just with a smaller weight?

Originally Posted by Yanick

why would you think that?

I dunno, just the idea of pushing your abs out. Is there any connection at all with that and hernia?