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    HIT Article

    http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-hit-training.asp

    What do you guys think about this? Is it a valid article and a valid training split?

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    There are numerous flaws in the article, but the premise of hard work being of shorter duration and the idea that an hour and a half in the gym is too much is, imo, perfectly accurate..
    "in the howling bleeding nights, the dogs plunge into the Volga and swim desperately to gain the other bank. The nights of Stalingrad are a terror for them. Animals flee this hell; the hardest stones cannot bear it for long; only men endure."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncans Donuts
    There are numerous flaws in the article, but the premise of hard work being of shorter duration and the idea that an hour and a half in the gym is too much is, imo, perfectly accurate..
    I know you advocate HIT training DD, what is it about the article that you don't like, and what in your opinion, would be a better training split to accomplish the same thing, if you aren't thrilled with the one listed?

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    I'm not a fan of any kind of consolidation, as consolidation implies "one size fits all" and ignores adjustment of variables that SHOULD be used (including modification of frequency, volume, rep ranges, tension time, etc.), albeit used to disrupt what has become common to the body and such used sparingly. I'm not big on anything more than 2-3 sets, and if the latter, not more than several weeks used sparingly to induce a change. Anything beyond that is likely unnecessary and may result in diminishing returns. However, as each of us is unique, such "overkill" might have benefit (although I'd bet the benefit would be for a small end of the bell-curve..)

    In other words, I feel like that article doesn't advise several important issues. One, that the exercises need to be modified. Two, that the rep ranges and set values need to be modified. Three, that the time under tension and "disruption" techniques (pre-exhaust,e tc.) should be changed. Four, I feel like the volume and frequency is such a low degree that it might result in undertraining. Five, that for people with higher percentages of slow-twitch fibers might need more volume via the principle of IDENTITY, and that two to four total sets a workout might only work for certain people.

    The article is right in a lot of principles, especially in dismissing any of the ridiculous high volume (imo), but is faulty in it's one-size-fits-all definition.
    "in the howling bleeding nights, the dogs plunge into the Volga and swim desperately to gain the other bank. The nights of Stalingrad are a terror for them. Animals flee this hell; the hardest stones cannot bear it for long; only men endure."

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    that was a great response, thank you . If I may ask you one more thing, I think you may be able to help me a lot, and anyone else with an opinion, jump right in as well. I am going through a stretch where I cannot decide on a routine to stick with for more than a couple of days. I seem to change weekly right now. Something I have been noticing is that while my motivation is still very high, I seem to be a lot more tired than I have been at any time in my life. My lifts seem to keep progressing, but then I will change the routine up and take 2 steps back once again. I remember last summer I was repping 275 on the bench press for example...now due to screwing around with my routine, I am back down to around 250. I shouldn't lose 25 lbs on my bench without even an extended break. It is due to poor routines....


    that being said, what is the type of routine that you can recommend, at least something that can get me started on something that I may stick with for hopefully a longer period of time than I have been.? How many days per week, in your opinions is the best TO START, I know you mentioned nothing is optimal and nothing is set in stone, so what is a good guideline to use to start off with, then I can modify it from there?

    thanks a lot for your help.....I have a feeling you don't mind sharing your knowledge and opinions, I definitely wouldn't if I had something to say, lol...

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    that link contains the most fagoty routine i have seen

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    Quote Originally Posted by JungleJuice
    that link contains the most fagoty routine i have seen
    uh oh the almighty one has decided to grace us with his presence...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JungleJuice
    that link contains the most fagoty routine i have seen
    Don't even get me started. Your a fucking joke dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soxmuscle
    Don't even get me started. Your a fucking joke dude.

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    you guys here bark like little bitches lol, so i think that routine sucks, so would the rest of my mates and yes i have my opinion and yes ya rite this is a forum

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    I don't bark.

    The routine is not stupid, just too simple. Probably will result in undertraining. It will work, though.
    "in the howling bleeding nights, the dogs plunge into the Volga and swim desperately to gain the other bank. The nights of Stalingrad are a terror for them. Animals flee this hell; the hardest stones cannot bear it for long; only men endure."

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    Quote Originally Posted by rangers97
    I was repping 275 on the bench press for example...now due to screwing around with my routine, I am back down to around 250.
    Try doing whatever it was you were doing back then. Many times have I switched from a routine due to impatience, even though it may have been working great; I was simply too anxious to jump into a different routine to notice the results.
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