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    Bicep Confusion

    Hi all

    Just looking for some advice as i'm confused..

    I seem to have a problem where my Biceps seem really weak. I have much thicker arms than my mates yet they are able to lift much more weight doing bicep curls at the gym than me. I have tried doing a few strengthening exercises in the last few months (high reps lower weight) but still have real trouble lifting heavy weights. I seem to be much stronger than them in chest and shoulder exercises but cant seem to lift much at all when it comes to biceps !?!? i have large(ish) solid arms but do not have much definition either even though i have been training for 3 years now.... possible that my biceps will always be a weakness ???

    Also it would seem that because i'm quite stocky i dont seem to get as defined as my skinnier mates, is it true that it is harder for bigger blokes to get definition???

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    First of all any definition comes from how lean you are, by your description i feel like i would classify my look now like yours... stocky and not a whole lot of definition.... but yes the Avatar is me

    As far as your bis are concerned, i had the same thing with my training partner a while back. What i eventually worked out wa that my form was just that much better than his, His form looked great but the slightest lift with the heels, the elbows coming out of the sides just a tad, the slight lean back can all contribute not not as good a curl.
    Size doesn't always mean strength...
    In a nut shell dont worry about it, you concentrate on you.... when it comes down to it you gotta compete against yourself and not your mates, lift as best you can for yourself, train as hard as you can.
    Your mates may lift more than you but eventually they will wanna look like you

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    Cheers

    Thanks for that great advice. now that i think about it, i dont think my m8s keep there elbows in at all when doing curls and i keep my elbows tucked right in (possibly even resting on my hips, is this ok?) and another mate does like to swing a great deal when doing curls. I look at the definition on their arms and think that i must be doing something wrong as i cant lift as much and dont have bulging muscles!

    Think i'll carry on on the weight i'm doing while they shoot off ahead with heavier weights and we'll see what happens in the end - after all they do comment that they would love to have arms the size of mine so having defination cant be that great!

    Cheers again..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liquidshokk
    Thanks for that great advice. now that i think about it, i dont think my m8s keep there elbows in at all when doing curls and i keep my elbows tucked right in (possibly even resting on my hips, is this ok?) and another mate does like to swing a great deal when doing curls. I look at the definition on their arms and think that i must be doing something wrong as i cant lift as much and dont have bulging muscles!

    Think i'll carry on on the weight i'm doing while they shoot off ahead with heavier weights and we'll see what happens in the end - after all they do comment that they would love to have arms the size of mine so having defination cant be that great!

    Cheers again..
    Yeah, i try and think about almost glueing my elbows on my hips, sounds like you rep the same as me... SIze will come better to you with the better form i rekon and strength will follow as well. I remember about 1yr ago i could barely rep 55kg for a single now i can do 65 for 2 clean as
    Later on when you feel ready you can do some dieting and cardio.... rip it up and your mates will be pissed with the difference.....

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    M8 your a legend!! I'm new to all this forum stuff but it's surprising how motivating a bit of good advice is!!!

    oh and by the way i'm trying to shift an excess stone at the moment using slimfast so hopefully will help with the cutting in as i get stronger and my biceps decide to grow!

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rissole
    SIze will come better to you with the better form i rekon and strength will follow as well.
    What was i thinkin you got what i meant
    Eeech stones.... hope all goes well
    Cheers big ears

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    And lets not forget that 3/4 of your upper arm is tri. That would explain your stronger bench also.

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    Yeah i dont really need to lose a stone (would properly be too much!) just want to cut right in, i lost nearly three stone a couple of years back and think i've built up hatred for the tiniest bit of fat! Thing is i cant break the habit of weighing myself so putting weight on through weightlifting is giving me the wrong impression i think...

    and imjarhed, would you say you use your triceps more doing bench than biceps then, thought it would only work them doing close grip?? do you have any tips on strengthening my biceps, despite it looking like my m8s have been doing curls wrong, one of thems biceps are getting bigger by the workout., whereas i dont see much improvement doing a lighter weight but with good form???

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    another thing you can work on that helps a lot and is not talked about alot that is the mind body connection. When you lift instead of using the mirors or watching yourslef lift close your eyes and visualize the weight moving while concentrating on the contraction in your arms this will keep you from cheating A. because you are not watching yourslef thinking just 2 more inches. B. It has been prooven usefull in the last couple years by exercise physiolgist. one you get more advanced that you feel like you have your eyes open sounds JEDI ish. A good technique is be a visualy descriptive a possible you can see everything as if your eyes were open. for me it helps if i viualize what ever muscle group i am using that i can see through my skin and see the fiber working.

    Sounds Goofy but helps like hell remeber everything is connected to your Brain and it makes it happen your brain says pull and your fibers contract so it is more beneficialy to feed your brain an image of you lifting the weight smothly and powerfully than the actual image cuz as soon as you visual see yourself get tired or doubt yourslef which sounds like the problem with you sub contiously you are putting the breaks. Good Luck

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    wow i've never really looked at it like that. strength of the mind interests me a lot but i've never really associated it with my workout. i know when i'm desperately trying to push out my last rep, on bench for example, i naturally close my eyes and go for it like hell, so maybe your right and closing my eyes and focusing more will help,think i'm too concious of my surroundings. will try it and will report results. cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by slider
    as soon as you visual see yourself get tired or doubt yourslef which sounds like the problem with you sub contiously you are putting the breaks. Good Luck
    I believe this to be very true
    Note to self: Eat More, Train Hard, and Eat More!

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    Quote Originally Posted by imjarhed
    And lets not forget that 3/4 of your upper arm is tri. That would explain your stronger bench also.
    I don't believe that to be true. Where did you read that? Bi's = 2, Tri's = 3

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