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    Shoulders with chest sucks!

    After a ballistic chest workout, there is no way I can military press the lbs I do when I give shoulders their own day. Who ever decided they should be together?

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    It is true that if you work your shoulders and chest together one of the exercises is going to suffer. This is due to the fact that the triceps are usually being worked heavily with shoulder and bench press. I personally don't work them on the same day anymore, however I suppose one benefit of working them together is that you do give your triceps a heck of a workout

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    Yeah, I recently switched to this routine and I had to drop
    30 lbs from my starting weight on MP's.

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    That just means you can achieve the same goal ( annihilating your delts ) with lighter weights. And isn't it an incredible feeling when the whole upper body is pumped at the same time
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    Nobody "decided they should be together," its just that some people like working them together. I am one of them. I personally don't care if I cannot press as much as normal on shoulders after doing chest...I only care how intensely I train my shoulders. Sometimes I won't even bother doing a shoulder press after chest, but will build my routine around laterals and upright rows instead. That said, I don't group chest and delts together all year long. I switch my bodypart split up every 8 weeks or so. However, my favorite grouping with chest is in fact delts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwcaton
    That just means you can achieve the same goal ( annihilating your delts ) with lighter weights. And isn't it an incredible feeling when the whole upper body is pumped at the same time
    Hi Gwcaton,

    ABSOLUTELY THE TRUTH!!!!

    Some people like to lift far more than they really should to try to force something and that is not how Nature works. Sure there can be a reasonable "forcing" honestly done and done with complete perfect form. But the human body is not meant to lift 1,000 pounds no matter how much a person may want to be able to do so. We all can only be our very best within the limits Nature puts on us. We can "search" for those limits and find them and we can also go beyond and suffer the consequences. Each person must be realistic in their goals. And honest in their workouts and how they perform them each and every exercise, each and every time.

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    Does anyone do Chest ,Tri,and Bi's together?
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    Quote Originally Posted by seabee
    After a ballistic chest workout, there is no way I can military press the lbs I do when I give shoulders their own day. Who ever decided they should be together?
    Everyone is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog88
    Does anyone do Chest ,Tri,and Bi's together?
    That's part of the upper/lower split that some do.
    So many cries of inequality stem from one of group
    of people doing little or nothing and then bitching
    about another group that actually does something
    to improve their lives.

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    I like the feeling I get after a chest, tri, and bi workout! The pump is awsome!
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    I used to NEVER work chest/shoulders on the same day since they both cause shoulder pain (got some shoulder probs)...to help give them enough rest and to make sure I dont go too heavy I now do them on the same day. I do chest first and then I do shoulders with what gas I have left in the tank. Then 4 or 5 days later I hit chest lightly (cables only or flys only) and I will throw in whatever shoulder excercise I was too worn out to do the previous time( usually just shrugs and some militarypress). Its not all about going heavy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by devildog88
    Does anyone do Chest ,Tri,and Bi's together?
    i personally dont like doing chest and triceps on the same day...the feeling of workingout my triceps after they have been drained from all of the pushing done from chest is weird to me...but i know a lot of people who group them together so its a matter of personal preference....But i do like to group chest/bicep and back/triceps

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