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Functional Lifting = Life
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I absolutely love to lift heavy. I can't think of anything I like to do more. However, I've read from good sources on this forum that lifting at 90%+ of your 1RM all the time is not good for the CNS. Because of this, I broke my routine into a speed and power week, the speed week I lift at about 50-60% of my max; the power week about 90-95% of my max. Is there anything I can do so I can lift heavy all the time or more often? Could I lift at 80% of my max all the time and still increase my max (my goals are strength ones and are listed in my signature)? I just get too bored on speed weeks and today I didn't even want to finish my workout.
My current routine is [sets_x_reps (weight)].Day One (Pwr): Deadlifts 2x3 (155), 3x2 (285); Spider Curls 2x3 (55), 3x2 (80); Military Presses 2x3 (40), 3x2 (60) Day Two: Off Day Three (Pwr): Dumbbell Presses 2x3 (80), 3x2 (120); Flies 2x3 (20), 3x2 (30); Arnold Presses 2x3 (40), 3x2 (60); Sit Ups 3x5 (35) Day Four: Off Day Five (Pwr): Squats 2x3 (135), 3x2 (235); Stiff-Legged Deadlifts 2x3 (115), 3x2 (185); Sit Ups 3x5 (45) Day Six: Off Day Seven: Off Day Eight (Sp): Deadlifts 2x3 (115), 8x2 (155); Spider Curls 2x3 (45), 8x2 (60); Military Presses 2x3 (30), 8x2 (40) Day Nine: Off Day Ten (Sp): Dumbbell Presses 2x3 (40), 8x2 (60); Flies 2x3 (10), 8x2 (20); Arnold Presses 2x3 (30), 8x2 (40); Sit Ups 3x8 (15) Day Eleven: Off Day Twelve (Sp): Squats 2x3 (105), 8x2 (135); Stiff-Legged Deadlifts 2x3 (75), 8x2 (115); Sit Ups 3x8 (15) Day Thirteen: Off Day Fourteen: Off Please let me know how I can lift heavy as much as possible to increase my maxes, and whether I should adjust anything (I'm basically attempting to powerlift). All help is appreciated. |
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Push yourself. Enjoy yourself. Be yourself.
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Pizza the Hut
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Yes, use the conjugate method - change your movements.
i.e. bench press one week, dumbell presses another week. What I am going to try is on my shirt day regular flat benching, and incline/decline on my raw day which are both in the same week. |
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Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks |
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Functional Lifting = Life
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So as long as the movement is different - no matter how similar - one can train at 90% or above all the time?
For example: squat and full squat; deadlift and SLDL; bench and DB bench; flies and dips. |
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Functional Lifting = Life
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Also, I read in your signature, Mudge, that if you lift 90%+ for more than three weeks, adverse effects start. Could you lift heavy for three weeks then take a week off, etc. and cycle that way and still make gains, or would that not work in theory?
Last edited by Squaggleboggin : 05-18-2005 at 04:02 PM. |
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Pizza the Hut
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I dont think that everyone is the same, but the information comes from Dr. Zatiorsky. So you can try 90% and then taking a week off if you like, or you can try changing the movements. The idea is not neccessarily that it is "not good" for the CNS, its simply that the body is trying to protect itself by killing your strength levels. So this is what we call overtaxation of the CNS, the body just simply is protesting what you are doing.
So basically you will want to stay 5/6 reps or above to avoid this, but even training like that I'd suggest mixing things up occasionally, because I notice that my body will "protest" after a few weeks lifting like that which would not be quite 90%. |
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Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench
Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks |
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Functional Lifting = Life
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So sets of doubles wouldn't be the best idea for strength? I thought low reps and high weight would do the trick. Unless you just mean to do 5-6+ reps to avoid the overtaxation in the first place.
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Push yourself. Enjoy yourself. Be yourself.
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Pizza the Hut
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Sometimes my weights slide just by way of wrist pains or things of that nature. |
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Kinesiology Vote @ Top 25 Deads Comp Bench
Motivation Bench form MaxCalc Charles Poliquin When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be. Lao-Tzu I don't know any sources so don't ask - thanks |
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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or flip the order of which you do things around, I often do the same things for about 3-4 weeks but everyweek I start with something different and end with something different.
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Functional Lifting = Life
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I think I'll try the 90%+ thing for a few weeks and see how it goes. Thanks for the help.
![]() For the next few weeks with progressively heavier weight as needed: Day One: Deadlifts 2x3 (155), 3x2 (290); Spider Curls 2x3 (55), 3x2 (85); Military Presses 2x3 (40), 3x2 (60) Day Two: Off Day Three: Dumbbell Presses 2x3 (80), 3x2 (130); Flies 2x3 (20), 3x2 (40); Arnold Presses 2x3 (40), 3x2 (60); Sit Ups 3x5 (45) Day Four: Off Day Five: Squats 2x3 (135), 3x2 (240); Stiff-Legged Deadlifts 2x3 (115), 3x2 (190); Sit Ups 3x5 (45) Day Six: Off Day Seven: Off |
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Amor Fati
Join Date: Jul 2002
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oh yeah you also don't need to be doing 90+% of 1RM on all movements. you should be working circa maximal with 1 or 2 main lifts and the rest should be accessory work which should be worked with varying intensities, rep ranges, RI's etc. |
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"...we have to remember that training is a complicated dance of stimuli and response. Our goal is to understand how to manipulate the stimuli in order to evoke the responses we desire." -Nathan J. Polenchek
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Join Date: May 2005
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That workout you posted needs alot of changes...Too many to list. Jump on a powerlifting chat room. www.powermagonline.com
Go to the monster muscle forum. Allot of competitive power lifters here. They are very helpful and nice people. Post you're workout that you have listed here, They will set you straight. |
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You Lack Intensity!!!!
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like Lam and mudge mentioned, you should start reading about westside barbell/conjugated method. it covers exactly what you are describing in great scientific detail. Their entire philosophy is based on training at above 90% each week while strusturing dynamic wo's. read up. also yanick is dead on about accessory/ supplemental movements and rep ranges
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Functional Lifting = Life
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Thank you for pointing me in the right direction. I think I screwed up my whole routine the last time I 'revised' it. I went to that forum and it seems promising, and powerlifting is something I've always wanted to do but thought I'd need to be stronger to even join. I suppose that's the whole point of joining in the first place but I still don't like doing things in which I don't excel compared with others. Thanks again.
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