yes, diet plays a major role when you are trying to gain.
As we see in all the epic movies these days, Troy with Brad Pitt, Alexander with Colin Ferrell, Kingdom of Heaven with Orlando Bloom, and Star Wars Episode 3 with Hayden Christensen; These actors are gaining EXTREME amounts of muscle in sometimes less than 2 months.
For Example, during an interview with Hayden Christensen who put on 20 pounds of weight for his role as Anakin, 15-18 of which was muscle, he explained it took 2 months of intense training.
So are these actors on juice guarenteed? Or do they do it naturally but with the best chefs and personal trainers around? Aka, if I ate as solid as these guys and trained as hard, would I put on muscle that fast or would I have to use roids?
Since I started lifting 2 years ago I have put on around 25 pounds of weight about 15 which was muscle (but I don't eat strict at all but I do stay away from sugars, and high fatty foods)... but I could sure go for a big gain, and a boost of confidence to keep me alive in this sport.
Overall the question at hand is, If I ate perfect, would I gain like this?
I don't train hard, eat right, and do the things I do for others. I do it for myself.
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yes, diet plays a major role when you are trying to gain.
too many factors to account for to make this call. remember you have been training for a while and these guys make their gains after no signifigant workout routine as a starting point. so a personal chef and trainer might be more benificial for a newbie than you............................or it could be the drugs
its lots of factors combined that make them successful at transforming their body's. mostly its the motivation...you doing it so you can look better for the girls while these guys are doing it to get paid 20 million dollars, how's that for motivation to stick to a diet? and yes i believe that they almost always juice for those roles, as they also tend to deflate like balloons after making the movie.
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i doubt most of these actors are new to working out. im sure many of them are using drugs to make the gains so quickly.
new to working out? brad pitt not only quit smoking for troy but worked out not only with weights but swords for 4-5 hours a day for troy. he then went back to smoking and stopped working out all together as soon as the movie wrapped. he only gets in shape for movies thats just how it is with him. its not like the guy keeps a regular workout routine. its such bs to automatically assume drugs when someone gets in shape.
I guarantee they are juicing, and NO ONE EVER talks about the steroid problem in hollywood, interestingly enough, not even so much as a peep, funny how that works. Congress can't say enough about baseball, but hollywood, not a problem. Wheres the concern for the children when it comes to movie icosn that they see daily. Anyways, yes steriods are rampant, no question about it. that and GH
first of all i dont believe that actors such as prad pitt dont have a some kind of normal workout routine. that might be what he tells people. if you are in the publics eye like he is your gonna stay in shape. i have heard stories of celebs juicing. i cant say it is 100% true, but some one like ed norton blew up like 40lbs for am history x in a matter of months.
Don't get me startedOriginally Posted by gr81
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I was just gonna say that about him, and he was tiny agen not long after that filmOriginally Posted by Dante
not only is it obvious from an observational standpoint, but I have heard first hand accounts. No doubt its rampant, and no doubt its hypocritical. Just the fact that we focus on sports, saying that its dangerous and bad for you as a performance enhancing synthetic and that it has no place in society, yet no body has a damm thing to say when brad pitt or wesley snipes is loading up for their next flick speaks volumes. what a great country eh Flex, we should respect our lawmakers to the fullest for they certainly they speak with authority eh buddy..lol
Considering hypertrophy doesn't happen to a significant degree in an untrained indiviual until after the 2nd month, and that in a trained individual 2olbs in that time would be maqdness, I would have to believe there is some juice involved.
If sense were common, everyone would have it.
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what you stating? i gained 18-20lbs of LBM in around 10 weeks when i started a proper routine and diet most of it came around the 3rd to 8th week and i am natural.Originally Posted by Dale Mabry
your not listening to whate Dale is aying are you
really?? i was consiederd untrained at the time.Originally Posted by gr81
oh, well then nvermind. generally speaking Dale is right thou. people don't just start working out and immediately gain that much weight. its takes time to get in shape first off, but maybe you were different
My statement is supported in the science, If true, your 18lbs was mostly due to a increas in glycogen storage which, in turn, increases water weight.
If sense were common, everyone would have it.
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I dont care what science studies say really beacuse i know my arms went from 14.25 to about 15.25 and an example of my shoulder press went from 95lbs for 8 reps to 150lbs for 8 reps in 10 weeks on a proper abrivated training routine without all the overtraining shit in it.Originally Posted by Dale Mabry


I heard somewhere that they used a body double for Ed Norton in American History X. I also heard they used a body double for Brad Pitts legs in Troy. They do use body doubles a lot in the film industry. Also, the camera and make-up can make you look much larger or skinnier then you are. I work in television so I see some of these stars up close and they really don't look like they do on screen.
ok yep... think what you want it was not water is was mainly muscle.Originally Posted by gr81
20lb of LBM in 10 weeks?Originally Posted by HardTrainer
uh..........no.
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shut up mate YES i did, maybe you just dont understand that people fu*king overtrain all the time and dont realise what the human body can do.Originally Posted by Flex
ok, you're right.Originally Posted by HardTrainer
then of course that would make you the only human being in history able to do so.
Not even guys on heavy cycles add and keep 20lb of LBM in 10 weeks. So, no, you didn't.
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The guy i trained with has his own gym and trains very low volume high intensity 1 set 20 rep squat are the staple for the newbie wanting to gain. when i went there i was a newbie and i did gain 18lbs or so, lots of his clients did? that is the only guy i know out of about 40 personal trainers that know what REAL bodtbuilding for natural guys is.
YES i did just shut up mate i aint lying you just dont know how to train the human body the best way it can be.Originally Posted by Flex
Now your personal trainer is the only guy that knows how to correctly bodybuild as well?
damn, all the people who've ever trained before in BB history don't know what we've been missing.
You're a funny guy, Sully, I like you. Dat's why I'm going to kill you lahst.
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*Arnold vs. Ronnie vs. Haney vs. Sergio*
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whatever? people in bodybuilding history all juiced, steriods can completely negate the effects of overtraining, the biggest killer next to undereating, when your natural you have to manipulate hormone levels to get anywhere. But i dont care anyhow i know what i gained and i am happy to carry on whatever people what to think due to what they experience in the gym.Originally Posted by Flex
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