working out 2times a day

**kenwood** · 05-25-2005, 07:04 PM

if your going for cut or bulking is it okay to workout 2 times a day in the morning and at night ?

**ihateschoolmt** · 05-25-2005, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by kenwood

if your going for cut or bulking is it okay to workout 2 times a day in the morning and at night ?

it's ok, but what are you going to do? As long as you don't overtrain I don't see a problem.

**TJ Cline** · 05-25-2005, 07:10 PM

Write down you're exact workout, and then we can answer you're question.

**MyK** · 05-25-2005, 10:37 PM

do your cardio first thing, on an empty stomach!!! it hard
then at night do your weights.

for cutting cardio works best first thing in the morning on an empty stomach and you need fuel to weight train or you just have a shiity workout!

IMO

**vegman** · 05-25-2005, 11:32 PM

why would you do cardio on an empty stomach?

**MyK** · 05-25-2005, 11:40 PM

on an empty stomach, first thing in the morn, your body is on low energy supplies so it taps into your longterm energy supply "FAT" sooner. Tom Ventura's theory. its not proven, but I've been tyrying it out and its tough cardio,so maybe its good!!!

**jram** · 05-26-2005, 05:50 AM

For a change of pace, I've just started a morning and late afternoon or evening w/o.

Mon. Morn: Chest Even: Arms

Tues: Rest

Wed. Morn: Shoulders/Traps Even: Legs

Thurs: Rest

Fri: Morn: Back Even: Arms

I want to work certain body parts twice a week. I've started arms twice a week which I'll do for about a month or so and I'll see how it works out. Then my chest twice a week and so on. My diet's clean about 3-4,000 calories a day, 6 meals. My w/o's range from 30-55 minutes.

Peace

**Doublebase** · 05-26-2005, 06:25 AM

What are your stats? What are your goals?

**maxpro2** · 05-26-2005, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by MyK

on an empty stomach, first thing in the morn, your body is on low energy supplies so it taps into your longterm energy supply "FAT" sooner. Tom Ventura's theory. its not proven, but I've been tyrying it out and its tough cardio,so maybe its good!!!

Don't ever do any exercise on an empty stomach.

**The Monkey Man** · 05-26-2005, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by MWpro

Don't ever do any exercise on an empty stomach.

Yeah!...

Instead eat a huge pile of biscuits and gravy...

Then go out and run 5-6 miles?

If you have the time to train 2x a day... Do it!

You can rev up for maximum intensity through ALL your exercises/muscle groups!

**vegman** · 05-26-2005, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by MyK

on an empty stomach, first thing in the morn, your body is on low energy supplies so it taps into your longterm energy supply "FAT" sooner. Tom Ventura's theory. its not proven, but I've been tyrying it out and its tough cardio,so maybe its good!!!

When starved your body uses muscle tissue for energy <- is this not true

**kraziplaya** · 05-26-2005, 01:11 PM

drink a protein shake with water before ur early morning cardio and dont overdo the cardio...try to avoid carbs in that shake..

**Squaggleboggin** · 05-26-2005, 03:07 PM

I think it goes to fat and then if there is no fat it goes to muscle for energy. I have no idea if this is correct, so someone correct me if I'm wrong (which is probable).

**min0 lee** · 05-26-2005, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by vegman

When starved your body uses muscle tissue for energy <- is this not true

I think this theory is correct.
I mean really, would life make it any easier on us by using fat first

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

**MyK** · 05-26-2005, 06:45 PM

http://www.ironmagazine.com/article101.html

here read this!! I told you not my theory and it is working for me!!!

**MyK** · 05-26-2005, 06:47 PM

but never do weights on an empty stomach 100%!!!

**min0 lee** · 05-26-2005, 06:55 PM

Here's part of it.

Written by: Tom_Venuto

When is the best time of day to do your aerobic exercise? The answer is any time! The most important thing is that you just do it. Continuous cardiovascular exercise, such as walking, jogging, stairclimbing, or cycling, sustained for at least 30 minutes, will burn body fat no matter when you do it.

However, if you want to get the maximum benefits possible from every minute you invest in your workouts, then you should consider getting up early and doing cardio before you eat your first meal - even if you're not a "morning person." Early morning aerobic exercise on an empty stomach has three major advantages over exercising later in the day:
Early in the morning before you eat, your levels of muscle and liver glycogen (stored carbohydrate) are low. If you eat dinner at 7 p.m and you eat breakfast at 7 a.m., that's 12 hours without food. During this 12-hour overnight fast, your levels of glycogen slowly decline to provide glucose for various bodily functions that go on even while you sleep. As a result, you wake up in the morning with depleted glycogen and lower blood sugar - the optimum environment for burning fat instead of carbohydrate.

How much more fat you'll burn is uncertain, but some studies have suggested that up to 300% more fat is burned when cardio is done in a fasted, glycogen-depleted state. So how exactly does this work? It's quite simple, really. Carbohydrate (glycogen) is your body's primary and preferred energy source. When your primary fuel source is in short supply, this forces your body to tap into its secondary or reserve energy source; body fat. If you do cardio immediately after eating a meal, you'll still burn fat, but you'll burn less of it because you'll be burning off the carbohydrates you ate first.

You always burn a combination of fat and carbohydrate for fuel, but depending on when you exercise, you can burn a greater proportion of fat relative to carbohydrate. If doing cardio first thing in the morning is not an option for you, then the second best time to do it would be immediately after weight training. Lifting weights is anaerobic (carbohydrate-burning) by nature, and therefore depletes muscle glycogen. That's why a post lifting cardio session has a similar effect as morning cardio on an empty stomach.

The second benefit you'll get from early morning cardio sessions is what I call the "afterburn" effect. When you do a cardio session in the morning, you not only burn fat during the session, but you also continue to burn fat at an accelerated rate after the workout. Why? Because an intense session of cardiovascular exercise can keep your metabolism elevated for hours after the session is over. If you do cardio at night, you will still burn fat during the session, so you definitely benefit from it. However, nighttime cardio fails to take advantage of the "afterburn" effect because your metabolism drops like a ton of bricks as soon as you go to sleep. While you sleep, your metabolic rate is slower than any other time of the day.

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