Pullovers: with Back or Chest

TheCurse · 06-01-2005, 03:07 AM

where does everyone put their pullovers ? ive never been quite sure which day to do them on.

gr81 · 06-01-2005, 03:32 AM

back, its not a chest movement nor does it expand the rib cage despite what arnold says

**P-funk** · 06-01-2005, 04:15 AM

back. you are moving through extension with the DB during the concentric portion. You lats are contracting here.

TJ Cline · 06-01-2005, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by gr81

back, its not a chest movement nor does it expand the rib cage despite what arnold says

A good rule of thump is 95% of what Arnold said about training is wrong, except for doing 25 sets of chest 3x a week, that one is true.

gr81 · 06-01-2005, 09:27 AM

red x mayn, are you being sarcastic or are you serious, i can't tell

TJ Cline · 06-01-2005, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by gr81

red x mayn, are you being sarcastic or are you serious, i can't tell

When I was a teenager my friends and I tried to train chest like Arnold said to but couldn't. We thought we were pussys, We could only manage 10-12 sets 2x a week.

Yes I was being sarcastic, but 15 years ago I believed every word of it.

gr81 · 06-01-2005, 09:40 AM

thats what I thought. Man, its crazy even just to look through his beginner programs from that encyclopedia of his, its such hardcore overtraining for most cats. Squatting and deadlifting 3 times a week or sum shit for someone who has never done wither before...lol

The Monkey Man · 06-01-2005, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

When I was a teenager my friends and I tried to train chest like Arnold said to but couldn't. We thought we were pussys, We could only manage 10-12 sets 2x a week.

Yes I was being sarcastic, but 15 years ago I believed every word of it.

"My feet are strong Joe Rogan"

ccr_bballer33 · 06-02-2005, 01:13 AM

"hot sauce!"..

gopro · 06-02-2005, 03:50 PM

Depending on the way in which I do them I can use them for chest or lats (not exclusively of course). I like using them for both bodyparts...one week for lats and one for chest.

seven11 · 06-02-2005, 04:02 PM

do you guys really think arnold followed his own routine, or did he just say that to mess up his opponents if they tried to follow it?

Squaggleboggin · 06-02-2005, 04:45 PM

That's an interesting concept. But you'd think that he wouldn't put something to mess up his opponents in a book he wrote after he stopped competing. I guess you never know though...

vegman · 06-02-2005, 10:43 PM

ok, someone please tell me what a pull-over is, I think I know but not sure.

gopro · 06-02-2005, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by seven11

do you guys really think arnold followed his own routine, or did he just say that to mess up his opponents if they tried to follow it?

Yes, Arnold followed that routine, and that type of volume was very common back then.

BigDyl · 06-03-2005, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCurse

where does everyone put their pullovers ? ive never been quite sure which day to do them on.

We'll you probably do them with 200 LB'ers... so your stupidhead...

LAM · 06-03-2005, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by seven11

do you guys really think arnold followed his own routine, or did he just say that to mess up his opponents if they tried to follow it?

routines are constantly changing. so I'm sure he used it for a period of time. nobody follows the exact same routine for 10-20 years, etc.

racoon02 · 06-03-2005, 04:07 PM

back day baby!

Kracin · 06-03-2005, 08:01 PM

anyone else wanna point out that arnold was also juicing at some point lol.

seven11 · 06-03-2005, 09:09 PM

well maybe he was just trying to make him self look big hehe u know what mean

LAM · 06-03-2005, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kracin

anyone else wanna point out that arnold was also juicing at some point lol.

at some point...lol, how about the WHOLE time

WATTS · 06-05-2005, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LAM

at some point...lol, how about the WHOLE time

ya, i read that he started juicing at the age of 17.

FishOrCutBait · 06-05-2005, 07:28 PM

Yeah, have you seen how big he was then?! HE WAS BEASTLY

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Squaggleboggin Functional Lifting = Life Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,541 Photos: 3	That's an interesting concept. But you'd think that he wouldn't put something to mess up his opponents in a book he wrote after he stopped competing. I guess you never know though... Push yourself. Enjoy yourself. Be yourself. Knowledge is power. Obsessed with functional strength. Journal

06-01-2005, 03:32 AM	#2
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	back, its not a chest movement nor does it expand the rib cage despite what arnold says

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gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	red x mayn, are you being sarcastic or are you serious, i can't tell

06-01-2005, 09:40 AM	#7
gr81 You Lack Intensity!!!! Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Just below our civil disguise Posts: 6,378 Photos: 10	thats what I thought. Man, its crazy even just to look through his beginner programs from that encyclopedia of his, its such hardcore overtraining for most cats. Squatting and deadlifting 3 times a week or sum shit for someone who has never done wither before...lol

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ccr_bballer33 Bball player Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 152	"hot sauce!"..

06-02-2005, 04:02 PM	#11
seven11 Employee of the Month Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Twenkie-ville Posts: 1,210 Photos: 6	do you guys really think arnold followed his own routine, or did he just say that to mess up his opponents if they tried to follow it?

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Kracin Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 326 Photos: 4	anyone else wanna point out that arnold was also juicing at some point lol.

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seven11 Employee of the Month Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Twenkie-ville Posts: 1,210 Photos: 6	well maybe he was just trying to make him self look big hehe u know what mean

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