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    so it seems as tho i'm localizing fat loss....

    i have about 8-10% bodyfat and it collects around the love handles....you can see my abs quite well as they become very big when i do intensive ab workouts, but until i go on the sumemr cutting diet, i always have a few pounds of lard on the lovvies......

    well at the new gym i signed up at, they have a machine called a torso rotary machine....you sit in with your chest against a v shaped pad and you twist a 90 degree turn with weight resistance, then switch sides.......well i've done it three days last week ( sets of 30 each side, low weight) and have noticed definite fat loss on the love handles, without any change at all to my workout routine or diet.....i thought this wasn't possible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesegrater
    i have about 8-10% bodyfat and it collects around the love handles....you can see my abs quite well as they become very big when i do intensive ab workouts, but until i go on the sumemr cutting diet, i always have a few pounds of lard on the lovvies......

    well at the new gym i signed up at, they have a machine called a torso rotary machine....you sit in with your chest against a v shaped pad and you twist a 90 degree turn with weight resistance, then switch sides.......well i've done it three days last week ( sets of 30 each side, low weight) and have noticed definite fat loss on the love handles, without any change at all to my workout routine or diet.....i thought this wasn't possible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules
    It's not
    ditto...

    there's about a hundred medical studies that prove that localized lipolysis doen't occur in humans.
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    Muscle cannot break down fat all by itself. But if you work the muscle in an area then you can still tighten up the area somewhat. This is why chest workouts are recommended to large breasted women, it doesn't shrink anything, but it can tighten up the area.

    There is a difference between a small, weak and atrophied muscle and actually working it out a little.
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    well so whats going on with there being definite less fat there? like, i poke it and there's less now than there was even 4 days ago.......would it make sense to say something like, since that's really the only place i have fat, that since i'm more intensively working the muscle than i ever have before that it's burning all fat better, and it just seems to be localized since the only fat is where i'm using the new muscle?
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    I wouldn't put a lot of faith in someones "poke test." If you feel more firm where you used to be soft, dont you think there could be more firm tissue underneath?

    I prefer to be scientific, the mirror is certainly great - but your methods are somewhat lacking in proving anything.

    Fat is not broken down locally for purposes of feeding muscle that is nearby. New muscle as you call it, is actually just hypertrophied muscle cells that have been there already. Just so we are all on the same page.
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    you are building up the muscle, not just losing fat from that area. i dont know who said this but i heard it in this forum. Picture your abs as a pool that you cant see the bottom(abs), you can take out water(fat) or you can bring the bottom of the pool closer to the surface(building muscle). sounds like your building it up, not losing water as much

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    Quote Originally Posted by kicka19
    you are building up the muscle, not just losing fat from that area. i dont know who said this but i heard it in this forum. Picture your abs as a pool that you cant see the bottom(abs), you can take out water(fat) or you can bring the bottom of the pool closer to the surface(building muscle). sounds like your building it up, not losing water as much
    what an analogy

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    hahaha, ya, i heard it from some1, it makes sense if u think bout it

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    Quote Originally Posted by kicka19
    you are building up the muscle, not just losing fat from that area. i dont know who said this but i heard it in this forum. Picture your abs as a pool that you cant see the bottom(abs), you can take out water(fat) or you can bring the bottom of the pool closer to the surface(building muscle). sounds like your building it up, not losing water as much
    okay, but then wouldn't the love handle/ oblique area be wider or thicker with more muscle built up underneath the fat? It's shrunk a good inch in circumferance within the last week.
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    muscles do not burn fat locally, it's physiologically impossible. sounds like whatever is happening is good, just take it as that...
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    i vote to believe what you want to believe lol then everyone is happy

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    What LAM said, just be happy with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheesegrater
    okay, but then wouldn't the love handle/ oblique area be wider or thicker with more muscle built up underneath the fat? It's shrunk a good inch in circumferance within the last week.
    People store fat differently, some people on stomach or legs or whatever probley due to genetics and or hormones, if you store lots on your side then that is the area for you that likes to store fat, so when you reduce your overall bodyfat that area will reduce quicker then the rest so you might not notice to much loss else where.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HardTrainer
    People store fat differently, some people on stomach or legs or whatever probley due to genetics and or hormones, if you store lots on your side then that is the area for you that likes to store fat, so when you reduce your overbody fat that area will reduce quicker then the rest so you might not notcie to much loss else where.
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    you have same bodyfat

    just developed youre abs better with the addition of a twisting motion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd_
    you have same bodyfat

    just developed youre abs better with the addition of a twisting motion
    yep, all in all a good thing and don't worry about it. congrats dude I have the
    same problem with my lovvies

    another kinda weird thing i do that seems to help is lay flat on my back bring
    my legs up to a 90degree angle with keep my back flat on the ground, bring
    my legs to each side and add a 5lb medicine ball in the mix as well.

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