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    Overtraining?

    I've found that when working out with my buddy, my workouts are taking alot longer. I was told to keep my workout under 75 minutes, otherwise I'm just wasting my time. But to do 2 bodyparts (Chest / Tris on Monday persay) I can hardly get through my tricep workout in time, because my chest workout is so time consuming.

    What if I were to split it up? Still give myself a few rest days, but really split the workout.. Here's my setup now..

    Monday: Chest/Tris
    Tuesday: Rest
    Wednesday: Back/Biceps
    Thursday: Abs
    Friday: Legs/Shoulders
    Saturday: Rest
    Sunday: Abs

    I need to break these up, my monday workout takes me an hour and a half at least. My back/biceps workout takes just as much.. and my leg work out, yeesh, combined with shoulders will take me 2 hours. I've been watching alot of workout videos, proper forms, and how NOT to do it. When I first started working out I was just lifting a few reps of my completely MAX weight and was getting nowhere. I switched to about 8-10 reps of a lower weight, and have noticed much better gains, basically a much better burn in my muscles. I've noticed growth.

    But let me get to the point. I need to split my workout, but I do want to get enough rest. Because I know that muscles dont get bigger in the gym, they get bigger when you rest. What if I were to split it up?

    Monday: Chest
    Tueday: Tri / Abs
    Wednesday: Back
    Thursday: Biceps / Abs
    Friday: Rest
    Saturday: Shoulders
    Sunday: Legs

    Would I be overworking myself? It'd keep my workout down to about 1 hour per workout, and I could focus more on completing the workout efficiently and correctly, and not getting it done as fast as possible.

    Any input would be fantastic, just trying to get the workout down as I feel I've pretty much perfected my diet.

    Thanks folks.
    - Jared

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    I think your first workout listed is 100x better than the second.
    Mon: chest/tri
    Wed: back/bicep
    Friday: Legs/Delts
    this looks good, you could do legs on Saturday esp if you hit them hard.
    I do a similar workout to this and mine takes 45 min max, list your sets and reps, I think 75 min is a bit long.
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    I usually do 1 Warm-up set, and 3 normal sets. Warmup I do 20 reps of basically no weight (stretching), normal I do 8-10 reps.

    Am I wasting time doing 4 sets? Should I do 2 sets for maximized workouts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tannywild
    I usually do 1 Warm-up set, and 3 normal sets. Warmup I do 20 reps of basically no weight (stretching), normal I do 8-10 reps.

    Am I wasting time doing 4 sets? Should I do 2 sets for maximized workouts?

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    How many sets per workout and per muscle?
    I do 2 warm up sets for chest then 9 working sets, then 1 warm up set for triceps and 5 working sets. So basically not counting warm up sets,3 sets bench press, 3 sets incline Db press, and 3 sets cable flys..3 sets skull crushers, and 2 sets triceps rope ext+ 2 sets laterals of 20-25 reps for a light deltoid workout....just for an example of my chest and tri day.
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    Not including my warmups, basically here's my chest/tri day..

    3 sets bench press
    3 sets dumbell incline fly
    3 sets dumbell decline fly
    3 sets cable crossovers (upper chest)
    3 sets cable crossovers (lower chest)

    3 sets tricep pushdowns
    3 sets tricep extensions
    3 sets tricep kickbacks

    Too much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tannywild
    Not including my warmups, basically here's my chest/tri day..

    3 sets bench press
    3 sets dumbell incline fly
    3 sets dumbell decline fly
    3 sets cable crossovers (upper chest)
    3 sets cable crossovers (lower chest)

    3 sets tricep pushdowns
    3 sets tricep extensions
    3 sets tricep kickbacks

    Too much?
    I think that is too much esp if you are not juicing. You should drop 2 of the fly movements and one triceps exercise then you will have a good workout..
    3 sets BP, 3 sets Db incline fly or press....I would do the press, 3 sets cable crossover....mix this one up if you want high/low .
    Triceps you need a power movement...Dips, skull crushers or close grip BP...pick 1 and do 3 sets, then 3 sets of triceps extensions of some kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules
    I think that is too much esp if you are not juicing. You should drop 2 of the fly movements and one triceps exercise then you will have a good workout..
    3 sets BP, 3 sets Db incline fly or press....I would do the press, 3 sets cable crossover....mix this one up if you want high/low .
    Triceps you need a power movement...Dips, skull crushers or close grip BP...pick 1 and do 3 sets, then 3 sets of triceps extensions of some kind.
    Whoa, I actually agree with you.

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    So basically drop a few exercises that overlap, and work it out that way... Few more questions...

    How many days should I do abs? and what the hell is a skull crusher? :P Sorry to sound newb, but the truth is, I am.

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    Wait a sec, thats where you have your arms extended all the way out, bring the bar to your forehead, then back up to full extension?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tannywild
    Wait a sec, thats where you have your arms extended all the way out, bring the bar to your forehead, then back up to full extension?
    yes

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    I agree also. But today my workout took 90 min's. Of coarse I work legs and then Back. Now i'm dead to the world.

    Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules
    I think that is too much esp if you are not juicing. You should drop 2 of the fly movements and one triceps exercise then you will have a good workout..
    3 sets BP, 3 sets Db incline fly or press....I would do the press, 3 sets cable crossover....mix this one up if you want high/low .
    Triceps you need a power movement...Dips, skull crushers or close grip BP...pick 1 and do 3 sets, then 3 sets of triceps extensions of some kind.

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