Thread: help for a noob

Originally Posted by gettnbig

ok im 5'11 195lbs and i play ftball. what i need to do is get to about 210lbs of muscle. i was looking into anabolics but i dont want to go that route i'd rather be natural. geneticly i gain muscle and weight somewhat easily. i just need to know what supps i should be taking to get what i want to achieve. i was thinkin cytogainer. i dont want to take cell tech anymore because as soon as i get off of it i lose all my weight again.

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Anabolics!

Right, first off how old are you.

Second off, you need to get your Diet and Training in check before you think about supplements.

Supplements: Protei Powder, Vitamins, Fish Oils, and maybe Creatine.

Is this high school football. Need an answere to help you

no its semi pro football. very competitive. im 21yrs old and i lift 4 days a week. i take cell teck and nitro teck along with astaxanthin but i just cant get past 195lbs. my natural weight would prolly be 188-190. i play Rb by the way

Originally Posted by gettnbig

no its semi pro football. very competitive. im 21yrs old and i lift 4 days a week. i take cell teck and nitro teck along with astaxanthin but i just cant get past 195lbs. my natural weight would prolly be 188-190. i play Rb by the way

I think you are a kid in high school
If you played semi pro you would have dozens of guys to talk to this stuff about.

the best thing to get past a sticking point in your weight is your diet..what is yours as of now?

no im not in highschool im 21 and play semi pro football. if u werent such a fag about it i'd even give u the website for the league. i def. dont want no advice from u. anyways i have a good diet i'd say i get 100-150g of protein daily. maybe not nearly enough calories(i doubt i could keep track all day) and i never eat junk food. also i work so i dont get as many meals as i probobally should. but im changing all that as soon as i can figure out a good plan for what i need to achieve my goals

I would read the nutrition stickies if I were you. The only supplements I would recommend taking are flax seed oil and a daily multivitamin. Personally I don't like the idea of taking other supplements because once you get off them you lose all the weight you gained. A lot of that weight is just water retention anyways.

Originally Posted by gettnbig

no im not in highschool im 21 and play semi pro football. if u werent such a fag about it i'd even give u the website for the league. i def. dont want no advice from u. anyways i have a good diet i'd say i get 100-150g of protein daily. maybe not nearly enough calories(i doubt i could keep track all day) and i never eat junk food. also i work so i dont get as many meals as i probobally should. but im changing all that as soon as i can figure out a good plan for what i need to achieve my goals

Well you obviously need to taught what to do with your body.

Ditch all the Muscle-Tech junk and save your money for something else.
Creatine = EAS phosphagen HP
Protein = good whey on true protein. (Read my signature, look for protein).
Vitamin = GNC Mega Mens or One-A-Day Men's
EFA's = Fish Oils from local pharmacy

That should help.

Next, read some Nutrition sticky's and get your Diet in line, the Diet will improve your gains by 100%
Make sure your Training is in line. You probably got a Football strength routine, maybe your wanting to gain muscle, your probably doing strength training. Stick with Hypertrophy, 8-12 reps.

P.S. I would never use "Anabolics" to gain 15lbs.

Originally Posted by gettnbig

no im not in highschool im 21 and play semi pro football. if u werent such a fag about it i'd even give u the website for the league. i def. dont want no advice from u. anyways i have a good diet i'd say i get 100-150g of protein daily. maybe not nearly enough calories(i doubt i could keep track all day) and i never eat junk food. also i work so i dont get as many meals as i probobally should. but im changing all that as soon as i can figure out a good plan for what i need to achieve my goals

refusing to take advice from one of the most knowledgable members of the board is rediculous, Foreman may poke jokes at you, but his advice (if he likes you enough to give it to ya ) is first-rate

Originally Posted by ABLQ2

refusing to take advice from one of the most knowledgable members of the board is rediculous, Foreman may poke jokes at you, but his advice (if he likes you enough to give it to ya ) is first-rate

I disagree 100% Foreman is a prick!

Originally Posted by ForemanRules

I disagree 100% Foreman is a prick!

being a prick doesnt mean you dont know your shite.

well actually he didnt give any advice at all he question the fact that im not in highschool. like really what would i get from lying about it besides maybe fukk my body up because iwas to young for somthing. i was just lookin for some advice from experienced people thats all

Originally Posted by gettnbig

well actually he didnt give any advice at all he question the fact that im not in highschool. like really what would i get from lying about it besides maybe fukk my body up because iwas to young for somthing. i was just lookin for some advice from experienced people thats all

It happens every week, some 15 year old wants to gas up and lies about his age...you just sound young to me. If I'm wrong then I'm sorry, but I have to go with my gut, I don't want to one of the people on this site ( just a few of them thank Ford) who give steroid cycle advice to 18- year olds .

If I were you Id talk to your fellow players about this stuff...they will know much more about the current steroid testing used by your league + how to beat it...One of my friends played in the NFL for 2 years and those guys had a very specific program to beat the tests....if he took our advise for NFL testing he would have got caught.

goodness, doesnt that cell tech and the protein muscletech sells give u the shits...so overrated...drop that trash man and quit buyin into the hype...dont u see their 15page ads all in the muscle mags...u think they can afford to advertise like that cause they have a small overhead? that company is hilarious, juiced up guys like cutler and cormier on the ads claiming they are huge because of nitrotec/celltech....

if u search the anabolics section you will find the recommended cycle for a beginner... and foreman (i think his nickname is foreman fuck) lol, is giving the right advice.. young stupid nieve users end up doing something dumb and giving the juice a bad name... be smart and dont fuck it up for everyone else

Originally Posted by gettnbig

i'd say i get 100-150g of protein daily. maybe not nearly enough calories(i doubt i could keep track all day) and i never eat junk food.

100-150g of protein per day isn't nearly enough at your weight to gain weight. It should be close to 200-300g per day. Also, to bulk you'd probably want to eat somewhere around 3500-4500 cals per day.

no i dont want to use roids. i wanted to know what would be best for me to use giving my stats and goals. i was thinkin like cytogainer in the morning and maybe a whey protein mixed with nitro tech but muscle tech is trash so i dont know what im gonna do. i was planning on gettin 200g protein=3500cal/daily.

Watching your protein alone is not enough calories to put on that kind of weight. You need calories for weight gain, what that weight gain ends up being is going to be based on your training, genetics, and what your actual diet looks like.

Taking a supplement here or there is not going to substitute for food.

If you add in another 100g of protein spread throughout the day (this is a must), that is going to be about another 400 calories for you to start out with.

ok thanx alot for the help. im glad i came here b4 jumping into the cycle of roids i was going to do.