Why do so many people have an undeveloped chest?

god hand · 07-06-2005, 02:53 PM

This muscle gets workout by most people more than any, but few have a good chest! This doesnt make sense! I see people do what probably is the most known bodybuilding exercise (bench press) and yet they might put up good numbers, they have a small chest. SOMETHINGS NOT RIGHT

and there must be another exercise that can produce chest growth. I dont do decline exercises for chest because I already have a good lower chest, but maybe doing the will simulate growth overall?

Does anybody else have an better explanation why a lot of people have an undeveloped chest?

Randy · 07-06-2005, 03:19 PM

I knew a few bodybuilders that pressed huge numbers, but they didn't have much chest definition. This was because they had a lot of body fat. To achieve maximum defination of your muscles you need a combination of things, primarily a good diet/nutrician and the right workout routine. You must try to hit all your chest muscles to get a nice uniform chest build.

The guys that press large numbers can have lots of chest muscle, but can be covered by fat so you can't see it. Once they burn off the fat then it will expose their muscle and best display their muscular definition.

FishOrCutBait · 07-06-2005, 03:36 PM

Well, most people dont train their pectoralis minor, which is hit in db pullovers, and the pectoralis minor, if left untrained, could theoretically inhibit growth. This is my gym science answer...

shiznit2169 · 07-06-2005, 03:40 PM

bench press is 90% delt work, and depends on their BF. That's why they dont have a well defined chest. They need to do all variation of exercises to hit all parts of the pecs.

Tough Old Man · 07-06-2005, 03:52 PM

IMO the best exercise for the pectoralis minors would be weighted chest bar dips.

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Originally Posted by FishOrCutBait

Well, most people dont train their pectoralis minor, which is hit in db pullovers, and the pectoralis minor, if left untrained, could theoretically inhibit growth. This is my gym science answer...

camarosuper6 · 07-06-2005, 03:55 PM

triceps and delts do a lot of bench work.... i dont know if i agree about hitting a muscle from all angles, but changing your routine every 4 or 5 weeks along with using proper isolation work along with proper TUT will build your pecs to their fullest potential

Randy · 07-06-2005, 04:02 PM

There's ole Camaro....whatup man?
Where's Duncan hiding?

TJ Cline · 07-06-2005, 04:13 PM

I think I know the answer.......some people have sh1tty genetics

Randy · 07-06-2005, 04:14 PM

That's ok Camaro.... I guess I don't deserve a response.

animalmachine · 07-06-2005, 05:22 PM

genetics, poor diet, overtraining, failure to change routine - could be any or all

camarosuper6 · 07-06-2005, 05:28 PM

sorry im here whats up

god hand · 07-06-2005, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FishOrCutBait

Well, most people dont train their pectoralis minor, which is hit in db pullovers, and the pectoralis minor, if left untrained, could theoretically inhibit growth. This is my gym science answer...

Pectoralis minor.......I hate pullovers! Know any other exercises that work the minor?

TJ Cline · 07-06-2005, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by god hand

Pectoralis minor.......I hate pullovers! Know any other exercises that work the minor?

Bench press, Incline, Decline.....get the idea

animalmachine · 07-06-2005, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by god hand

Pectoralis minor.......I hate pullovers! Know any other exercises that work the minor?

So, I take it that you are one those suffering this small chest disease?

You don't need to do dumbell pullovers - flat, incline and decline will work fine... change up the order you do these in your routine every few weeks, and switch off between barbell and dumbell - lift low rep - heavy weight. Be sure to consume enough protein and follow good pre and post workout nutrition.

god hand · 07-06-2005, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tough Old Man

IMO the best exercise for the pectoralis minors would be weighted chest bar dips.

Can u really pack on mass by doing dips?

FishOrCutBait · 07-06-2005, 05:54 PM

Heck yah foo. Just use either a weight belt or hold the db between your legs.

animalmachine · 07-06-2005, 05:54 PM

dips are good - i switch between them and decline

min0 lee · 07-06-2005, 06:28 PM

I noticed a few years ago wwhen I reached the top portion of the bench press I gave it a 2 second flex* and it made a helluva a difference. Sometimes we get carrried away with how much we bench press and use too much delts and arms which you can't avoid.
* is that the right word?
I hope you guys understand what I am saying.

Randy · 07-06-2005, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by animalmachine

So, I take it that you are one those suffering this small chest disease?

Nicely phrased, "The Small Chest Disease!"

Witmaster · 07-06-2005, 06:42 PM

shiznit2169 · 07-06-2005, 06:54 PM

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I noticed a few years ago wwhen I reached the top portion of the bench press I gave it a 2 second flex* and it made a helluva a difference. Sometimes we get carrried away with how much we bench press and use too much delts and arms which you can't avoid.
* is that the right word?
I hope you guys understand what I am saying.

yes, you mean a "squeeze". You're right, people think too much about the weight and let their delts/tri's do most of the work. It's important you fully contract and change up the tempo while squeezing at the top to fully develop your chest. But you also need to do different variation of exercises, not just bench press as most guys only do this exercise mainly for ego boost.

dAMvN · 07-06-2005, 07:00 PM

thats all bullshit, it's actually simple. Those people with un developed chest dont Bench correctly, dont give there chest the proper burn and dont eat and diet correctly thats it.

min0 lee · 07-06-2005, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by shiznit2169

yes, you mean a "squeeze". You're right, people think too much about the weight and let their delts/tri's do most of the work. It's important you fully contract and change up the tempo while squeezing at the top to fully develop your chest. But you also need to do different variation of exercises, not just bench press as most guys only do this exercise mainly for ego boost.

Thanks, I just went through my usual brain lock.

I noticed a lot of people just push the weight up and down without focusing on the muscle.

Hey Shiznit, see........ I don't always spam.

min0 lee · 07-06-2005, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dAMvN

thats all bullshit, it's actually simple. Those people with un developed chest dont Bench correctly, dont give there chest the proper burn and dont eat and diet correctly thats it.

Then what is the proper way?

Randy · 07-06-2005, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

I noticed a lot of people just push the weight up and down without focusing on the muscle.

We're not talking about that muscle MinO

min0 lee · 07-06-2005, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy

We're not talking about that muscle MinO

You dick.

07-06-2005, 02:53 PM	#1
god hand 10.5 out of 10 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 4,217 Photos: 4	Why do so many people have an undeveloped chest? This muscle gets workout by most people more than any, but few have a good chest! This doesnt make sense! I see people do what probably is the most known bodybuilding exercise (bench press) and yet they might put up good numbers, they have a small chest. SOMETHINGS NOT RIGHTand there must be another exercise that can produce chest growth. I dont do decline exercises for chest because I already have a good lower chest, but maybe doing the will simulate growth overall? Does anybody else have an better explanation why a lot of people have an undeveloped chest?

07-06-2005, 03:19 PM	#2
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min0 lee Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: The Bronx, NYC Posts: 33,802 Blog Entries: 3 Photos: 542	I noticed a few years ago wwhen I reached the top portion of the bench press I gave it a 2 second flex* and it made a helluva a difference. Sometimes we get carrried away with how much we bench press and use too much delts and arms which you can't avoid. * is that the right word? I hope you guys understand what I am saying.

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dAMvN Go Bench... Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 310 Photos: 1	thats all bullshit, it's actually simple. Those people with un developed chest dont Bench correctly, dont give there chest the proper burn and dont eat and diet correctly thats it.
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