Lat Separation

OMNIFEX · 07-13-2005, 11:35 AM

I've noticed a separation in my lats and was wondering if this
is due constant wide grip pullups?

ABLQ2 · 07-13-2005, 11:37 AM

nice drawing haha. the top thing is probably the mucles over your shoulderblde youre talking about. the thing below is the lat.

OMNIFEX · 07-13-2005, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ABLQ2

nice drawing haha. the top thing is probably the mucles over your shoulderblde youre talking about. the thing below is the lat.

I just posted that.

I'm talking about the two lines branching apart. Would wide pullups cause
this. I've been doing wide pullups on the door frame of my bedroom.

I would say the door width is around 40 inches

This is something new, for I've been doing this technique for little under
2 weeks.

PTYP · 07-13-2005, 11:55 AM

Either you are light as hell or have some awesome strength in your fingertips to be able to do a pull up on your door frame. The ledge of a normal door cant be anymore than 1/2 inch thick. I remember doing this when I was about 10

.

OMNIFEX · 07-13-2005, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PTYP

Either you are light as hell or have some awesome strength in your fingertips to be able to do a pull up on your door frame. The ledge of a normal door cant be anymore than 1/2 inch thick. I remember doing this when I was about 10

.

Strong fingers

I shrug using 150 pound dumbbells in each hand with no straps.

Do you think the separation could be coming from the frame being
wide and straight?

PTYP · 07-13-2005, 12:33 PM

I guess I am not sure what you are talking about in terms of "separation". Do you mean gradual widening of your lat from your waist? Or the separation of the right lat from the spine, as the left appears to be attached?

OMNIFEX · 07-13-2005, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PTYP

Or the separation of the right lat from the spine, as the left appears to be attached?

The separation. Both are fairly the same, I'm just not an expert drawing
with a mouse.

Thanks.

CANIBALISTIC · 07-13-2005, 03:04 PM

It seems like you are overcompensating for a weaker muscle. Have you had an injury?
Also switch to individual dumbbells and start with your weaker arm do a set and match the amount with the opposite hand/arm do not exceed this amount.

Also have a friend watch your form. It's so important to watch this because you can get funny shaped muscles.

CANIBALISTIC · 07-13-2005, 03:06 PM

if you are doing a lot of weight and your form suck this will happen. You have to start out really light and work up. I know it doesn't look cool but your gains will be permanent. No cutting corners.

OMNIFEX · 07-13-2005, 03:27 PM

CANIBALISTIC

No injuries whatsoever.

I think you are looking at the picture too severly.

What I'm trying to explain is right where the lats begin, there is a line
that branches off.

Maybe this will clear things up.

ABLQ2 · 07-13-2005, 03:29 PM

ohhhh . your lats are just like that. they are getting wider and so there is that little seperation where there is more meat on the back
nothing to worry about,\.

CANIBALISTIC · 07-13-2005, 03:35 PM

You're actually geting lat's how big are you?

OMNIFEX · 07-13-2005, 03:39 PM

Thanks.

Now back to my original question.

Is this happening because I'm using a wide grip, from doing pullups?

The door frame is ruffly 40 inches wide. Is this playing a factor in
some way.

Thanks again.

OMNIFEX · 07-13-2005, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CANIBALISTIC

You're actually geting lat's how big are you?

I already have Lats. Its just separating at the lower part of my back. I've
had a V Shape back for maybe 4-5 years.

TJ Cline · 07-13-2005, 04:42 PM

I really am not sure what your question is

Separation as in definition???or that your latt muscles are changing in some way??

CANIBALISTIC · 07-13-2005, 05:19 PM

You aren't helping anything. What do you think it is. I think it's the exercise but watch your form.

J.

Seanp156 · 07-13-2005, 06:36 PM

I really hope your spinal alignment isn't such as you've depicted in your diagram.

OMNIFEX · 07-15-2005, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanp156

I really hope your spinal alignment isn't such as you've depicted in your diagram.

Nah.

ForemanRules

Yes. Definition. I pretty much like to know whats going on, when new
things arise, and, was wondering why I haven't seen this kind of separation
on many other builders.

Anyone has a link with a diagram with all the muscles on ones back?

ABLQ2 · 07-15-2005, 10:26 AM

http://www.ivy-rose.co.uk/Topics/Posterior_Muscles.htm ya. wide grip pullups may cause that kind of growth. they are the best exersize you can do for you lats, in my opinion.

OMNIFEX · 07-15-2005, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ABLQ2

http://www.ivy-rose.co.uk/Topics/Posterior_Muscles.htm ya. wide grip pullups may cause that kind of growth. they are the best exersize you can do for you lats, in my opinion.

Thanks

Now you can see what I was talking about.

Where The Blue Dot Lies......

Now I can connect the dots with my back

Thanks Again!

drew.haynes · 07-15-2005, 12:29 PM

Lol... so funny when I saw this thread... so many confused people. I knew exactly what you meant. Depending on how I flex my lats I can make that seperation you are describing become very visible. It's normal.

Look at Lee Haney: http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/lh22.jpg

You can see that his right lat has a "crease". It begins under his armpit and angles back toward his spine and downward. That's kinda what you mean right?

OMNIFEX · 07-16-2005, 07:27 AM

The first thing I see that picture is his chest cavity

Dude just gave me insipration to do two more sets for chest.

07-13-2005, 03:04 PM	#8
CANIBALISTIC Dr. Lector Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 175 Photos: 1	It seems like you are overcompensating for a weaker muscle. Have you had an injury? Also switch to individual dumbbells and start with your weaker arm do a set and match the amount with the opposite hand/arm do not exceed this amount. Also have a friend watch your form. It's so important to watch this because you can get funny shaped muscles.
	"A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti." Anthony Hopkins (Hannibal) in Silence of the Lambs (1991)

07-13-2005, 03:06 PM	#9
CANIBALISTIC Dr. Lector Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 175 Photos: 1	if you are doing a lot of weight and your form suck this will happen. You have to start out really light and work up. I know it doesn't look cool but your gains will be permanent. No cutting corners.
	"A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti." Anthony Hopkins (Hannibal) in Silence of the Lambs (1991)

07-13-2005, 03:35 PM	#12
CANIBALISTIC Dr. Lector Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 175 Photos: 1	You're actually geting lat's how big are you?
	"A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti." Anthony Hopkins (Hannibal) in Silence of the Lambs (1991)

07-13-2005, 03:39 PM	#13
OMNIFEX OBSESSED WITH DEFINITION Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: New York Posts: 186	Thanks. Now back to my original question. Is this happening because I'm using a wide grip, from doing pullups? The door frame is ruffly 40 inches wide. Is this playing a factor in some way. Thanks again.
	*OMNIFEX* The More Definition The Better!

07-13-2005, 04:42 PM	#15
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	I really am not sure what your question is Separation as in definition???or that your latt muscles are changing in some way??
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544

07-13-2005, 11:37 AM	#2
ABLQ2 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Frieburg Posts: 437 Photos: 1	nice drawing haha. the top thing is probably the mucles over your shoulderblde youre talking about. the thing below is the lat.

07-13-2005, 11:55 AM	#4
PTYP In the squat rack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 249 Photos: 6	Either you are light as hell or have some awesome strength in your fingertips to be able to do a pull up on your door frame. The ledge of a normal door cant be anymore than 1/2 inch thick. I remember doing this when I was about 10 .

07-13-2005, 12:33 PM	#6
PTYP In the squat rack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 249 Photos: 6	I guess I am not sure what you are talking about in terms of "separation". Do you mean gradual widening of your lat from your waist? Or the separation of the right lat from the spine, as the left appears to be attached?

07-13-2005, 03:29 PM	#11
ABLQ2 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Frieburg Posts: 437 Photos: 1	ohhhh . your lats are just like that. they are getting wider and so there is that little seperation where there is more meat on the back nothing to worry about,\.

07-13-2005, 05:19 PM	#16
CANIBALISTIC Dr. Lector Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 175 Photos: 1	You aren't helping anything. What do you think it is. I think it's the exercise but watch your form. J.
	"A census taker once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti." Anthony Hopkins (Hannibal) in Silence of the Lambs (1991)

07-13-2005, 06:36 PM	#17
Seanp156 Myostatin Whore Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 6,274 Photos: 11	I really hope your spinal alignment isn't such as you've depicted in your diagram.
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07-15-2005, 10:26 AM	#19
ABLQ2 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Frieburg Posts: 437 Photos: 1	http://www.ivy-rose.co.uk/Topics/Posterior_Muscles.htm ya. wide grip pullups may cause that kind of growth. they are the best exersize you can do for you lats, in my opinion.

07-15-2005, 12:29 PM	#21
drew.haynes Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tulsa, OK, USA Posts: 603	Lol... so funny when I saw this thread... so many confused people. I knew exactly what you meant. Depending on how I flex my lats I can make that seperation you are describing become very visible. It's normal. Look at Lee Haney: http://digilander.libero.it/mrolympia2/lh22.jpg You can see that his right lat has a "crease". It begins under his armpit and angles back toward his spine and downward. That's kinda what you mean right?
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07-16-2005, 07:27 AM	#22
OMNIFEX OBSESSED WITH DEFINITION Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: New York Posts: 186	The first thing I see that picture is his chest cavity Dude just gave me insipration to do two more sets for chest.
	*OMNIFEX* The More Definition The Better!

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