ATT; Strongmen - Strongman training for Bodybuilding?

MuscleM4n · 08-01-2005, 01:31 PM

Hey fellas! everyone ok?

So here's the deal - Many a time powerlifters and/or strongmen consistently turn from power style training and focus on bodybuilding they diet and come in and destroy bodybuilders becuase of their hard earnt size over the years.

Powerlifts and strongmen etc all need to be larger than life to maintain their strength, size = strength, right?

So i am thinking of switching from my bodybuilding routine and focus for a while on strongman training, eat all in sight and just blow up.

I am only 123lbs @ 5'4" with very very low bodyfat so should i get involved with strongman training for a while? would also be nice to for some variety

I bought two duffle bags today from the army surplus shop - going to get the sand to fill in em tommorow

So what do you think?

The Monkey Man · 08-01-2005, 01:37 PM

You need to join a power style gym...

Once you get real world strength, who cares about being ripped!?

MuscleM4n · 08-01-2005, 01:44 PM

I care

I am a bodybuilder that's why

In the long term bodybuilding is my life

You can be ripped AND strong!

Just look at Mariuz Pudzienanski (spelling)

The Monkey Man · 08-01-2005, 02:12 PM

Doing power movements will bring in some dense muscle, but the practice of posing
and dieting will be lost

Plus you won't get to wear those cheeky little speedos until later! -

MuscleM4n · 08-01-2005, 02:18 PM

hehe yes true

It happens bodybuilders bodybuild , pose , diet etc etc for years and years....

....a powerlifter/strongman comes along diets and learns posing for a few months, then blows away the competition due to his thickness and size acquired from heavy duty training.

Ronnie Coleman and Jonnie Jackson used to be ex powerlifters before they decided to do bodybuilding to name a few examples.

So my main thinking behind this thread is to decide whether to get involved with strongman training and to increase my size without worrying about fat for many years OR just carry on with my bodybiulding training style like I am doing currently.

my weight is increasing steadily so at least i am on the right track...but my head is confused!

I am 19 and don't know which way to direct my training towards..help me!!!

Advice from strongmen would be greatly appreciated.

Squaggleboggin · 08-01-2005, 03:25 PM

I'm only sixteen and I'm really more of a powerlifter than a bodybuilder (this site offers great knowledge, so why not use it?). I'm also thinking of doing some strongman training, and I've been having a lot of fun with the couple of exercises I've done so far. I'm more of a functional strength kind of guy than the kind who cares what he looks like. I think you should at least give it a try. Worst case scenario: you hate it and go back to bodybuilding. Best case scenario: you love it and continue to incorporate it into your training. Nothing bad can really come of it, so just give it a shot.

MuscleM4n · 08-01-2005, 03:48 PM

yes thanks Squaggle

I was thinking more on the lines of use strongman training to get huge for bodybuilding in the longrun.

As i said i bought the duffle bags from the army surplus shop today ...going to buy the heavy sand tommorow

What exercises can i do with the sand filled bags?

Was thinking about:

1) Farmers walk

2) Lifting the bags form floor on to a platform.

hrrmmmm anyhting else?

Squaggleboggin · 08-01-2005, 04:06 PM

You could try a sort of clean and press with it. Lift it from the floor up to your shoulders, then above your head. I'll give a link to the video. I would do a clean followed by a push press at the top. You'll see what I mean. http://exrx.net/WeightExercises/OlympicLifts/Clean.html followed by http://exrx.net/WeightExercises/Olym...PushPress.html

MuscleM4n · 08-01-2005, 04:09 PM

Thanks again Squaggle, but isn't that more directed to olympic lifting?

Should i incorparate it anyway?

I believe the name reffered to those two movements combined is the clean and press

Squaggleboggin · 08-01-2005, 04:18 PM

Yes, that is the name. It's true that that is an olympic lift, but many strongman competitions do include the clean and press. Often you must lift a log or a non-rotating barbell overhead. That's the way to do it.

This site seems to have a wealth of information pertaining to strongman events. http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/strongman7.htm

MuscleM4n · 08-01-2005, 04:20 PM

nice find...cheers!

damn this strongman training is going to be fun!

Any strongmen on here to give me a hand?

Squaggleboggin · 08-01-2005, 04:23 PM

Yeah, it's been really enjoyable for me so far, and I've only tried the farmers' walks and clean and presses. It's also called dinosaur training, so you can google that term and see what you can find. One thing I've always wanted to try is the car pulling. Good luck and train safe.

Squaggleboggin · 08-01-2005, 04:56 PM

I just went outside and pushed my car some with my brother in it. That was pretty fun. I think I'll put that into my routine somehow.

**P-funk** · 08-01-2005, 09:05 PM

Quote:

What exercises can i do with the sand filled bags?

farmers walk
snatches
cleans
presses
turkish get up
curls
rows
one arm rows
yoke walks
behind neck lunges
cross chest carry
zercher lifts

**Mudge** · 08-01-2005, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MuscleM4n

Just look at Mariuz Pudzienanski (spelling)

Which goes to show you, its the diet/genetics, not the lifting. So lift how you want, you dont have to be a strongman to be strong and you dont have to be a bodybuilder to be lean.

**Mudge** · 08-01-2005, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

One thing I've always wanted to try is the car pulling. Good luck and train safe.

Get yourself a "sled" and you can do it all the time.

PreMier · 08-02-2005, 12:17 AM

ya'll are funny. I mean seriously fads pass through IM like crazy..

Like Mudge said, train how you want.. its how you eat that matters.

08-01-2005, 01:31 PM	#1
MuscleM4n Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,280 Photos: 9	ATT; Strongmen - Strongman training for Bodybuilding? Hey fellas! everyone ok? So here's the deal - Many a time powerlifters and/or strongmen consistently turn from power style training and focus on bodybuilding they diet and come in and destroy bodybuilders becuase of their hard earnt size over the years. Powerlifts and strongmen etc all need to be larger than life to maintain their strength, size = strength, right? So i am thinking of switching from my bodybuilding routine and focus for a while on strongman training, eat all in sight and just blow up. I am only 123lbs @ 5'4" with very very low bodyfat so should i get involved with strongman training for a while? would also be nice to for some variety I bought two duffle bags today from the army surplus shop - going to get the sand to fill in em tommorow So what do you think?
	Age 19, Weight 132lbs , height 5'4", 8% bodyfat, 100% natural. Deadlift - 274lbs (NEW PB 9/8/2005) Squat - 274lbs (NEW PB 19/8/2005) Bench press - 154lbs Total - 702lbs @ 132lbs My Website Full Body Pictures 26/9/2005 My Journal! - Progress pictures 28/8/2005 Paint bodybuilder "Bodybuilding is a marathon not a sprint". Originally Posted by P-funk: "eat for size, train for strength".

08-01-2005, 01:37 PM	#2
The Monkey Man Magical Apelikemenace Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Delhi, India Posts: 13,741 Photos: 34	You need to join a power style gym... Once you get real world strength, who cares about being ripped!?
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08-01-2005, 01:44 PM	#3
MuscleM4n Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,280 Photos: 9	I care I am a bodybuilder that's why In the long term bodybuilding is my life You can be ripped AND strong! Just look at Mariuz Pudzienanski (spelling)
	Age 19, Weight 132lbs , height 5'4", 8% bodyfat, 100% natural. Deadlift - 274lbs (NEW PB 9/8/2005) Squat - 274lbs (NEW PB 19/8/2005) Bench press - 154lbs Total - 702lbs @ 132lbs My Website Full Body Pictures 26/9/2005 My Journal! - Progress pictures 28/8/2005 Paint bodybuilder "Bodybuilding is a marathon not a sprint". Originally Posted by P-funk: "eat for size, train for strength".

08-01-2005, 02:12 PM	#4
The Monkey Man Magical Apelikemenace Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Delhi, India Posts: 13,741 Photos: 34	Doing power movements will bring in some dense muscle, but the practice of posing and dieting will be lost Plus you won't get to wear those cheeky little speedos until later! -
	Have Problems?... Chances are its due to overpopulation Save The Oceans, Save the Planet, Save Your Family, Save Yourself!

08-01-2005, 02:18 PM	#5
MuscleM4n Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,280 Photos: 9	hehe yes true It happens bodybuilders bodybuild , pose , diet etc etc for years and years.... ....a powerlifter/strongman comes along diets and learns posing for a few months, then blows away the competition due to his thickness and size acquired from heavy duty training. Ronnie Coleman and Jonnie Jackson used to be ex powerlifters before they decided to do bodybuilding to name a few examples. So my main thinking behind this thread is to decide whether to get involved with strongman training and to increase my size without worrying about fat for many years OR just carry on with my bodybiulding training style like I am doing currently. my weight is increasing steadily so at least i am on the right track...but my head is confused! I am 19 and don't know which way to direct my training towards..help me!!! Advice from strongmen would be greatly appreciated.
	Age 19, Weight 132lbs , height 5'4", 8% bodyfat, 100% natural. Deadlift - 274lbs (NEW PB 9/8/2005) Squat - 274lbs (NEW PB 19/8/2005) Bench press - 154lbs Total - 702lbs @ 132lbs My Website Full Body Pictures 26/9/2005 My Journal! - Progress pictures 28/8/2005 Paint bodybuilder "Bodybuilding is a marathon not a sprint". Originally Posted by P-funk: "eat for size, train for strength".

08-01-2005, 03:25 PM	#6
Squaggleboggin Functional Lifting = Life Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,540 Photos: 3	I'm only sixteen and I'm really more of a powerlifter than a bodybuilder (this site offers great knowledge, so why not use it?). I'm also thinking of doing some strongman training, and I've been having a lot of fun with the couple of exercises I've done so far. I'm more of a functional strength kind of guy than the kind who cares what he looks like. I think you should at least give it a try. Worst case scenario: you hate it and go back to bodybuilding. Best case scenario: you love it and continue to incorporate it into your training. Nothing bad can really come of it, so just give it a shot.
	Push yourself. Enjoy yourself. Be yourself. Knowledge is power. Obsessed with functional strength. Journal

08-01-2005, 03:48 PM	#7
MuscleM4n Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,280 Photos: 9	yes thanks Squaggle I was thinking more on the lines of use strongman training to get huge for bodybuilding in the longrun. As i said i bought the duffle bags from the army surplus shop today ...going to buy the heavy sand tommorow What exercises can i do with the sand filled bags? Was thinking about: 1) Farmers walk 2) Lifting the bags form floor on to a platform. hrrmmmm anyhting else?
	Age 19, Weight 132lbs , height 5'4", 8% bodyfat, 100% natural. Deadlift - 274lbs (NEW PB 9/8/2005) Squat - 274lbs (NEW PB 19/8/2005) Bench press - 154lbs Total - 702lbs @ 132lbs My Website Full Body Pictures 26/9/2005 My Journal! - Progress pictures 28/8/2005 Paint bodybuilder "Bodybuilding is a marathon not a sprint". Originally Posted by P-funk: "eat for size, train for strength".

08-01-2005, 04:06 PM	#8
Squaggleboggin Functional Lifting = Life Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,540 Photos: 3	You could try a sort of clean and press with it. Lift it from the floor up to your shoulders, then above your head. I'll give a link to the video. I would do a clean followed by a push press at the top. You'll see what I mean. http://exrx.net/WeightExercises/OlympicLifts/Clean.html followed by http://exrx.net/WeightExercises/Olym...PushPress.html
	Push yourself. Enjoy yourself. Be yourself. Knowledge is power. Obsessed with functional strength. Journal

08-01-2005, 04:09 PM	#9
MuscleM4n Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,280 Photos: 9	Thanks again Squaggle, but isn't that more directed to olympic lifting? Should i incorparate it anyway? I believe the name reffered to those two movements combined is the clean and press
	Age 19, Weight 132lbs , height 5'4", 8% bodyfat, 100% natural. Deadlift - 274lbs (NEW PB 9/8/2005) Squat - 274lbs (NEW PB 19/8/2005) Bench press - 154lbs Total - 702lbs @ 132lbs My Website Full Body Pictures 26/9/2005 My Journal! - Progress pictures 28/8/2005 Paint bodybuilder "Bodybuilding is a marathon not a sprint". Originally Posted by P-funk: "eat for size, train for strength".

08-01-2005, 04:18 PM	#10
Squaggleboggin Functional Lifting = Life Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,540 Photos: 3	Yes, that is the name. It's true that that is an olympic lift, but many strongman competitions do include the clean and press. Often you must lift a log or a non-rotating barbell overhead. That's the way to do it. This site seems to have a wealth of information pertaining to strongman events. http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/strongman7.htm
	Push yourself. Enjoy yourself. Be yourself. Knowledge is power. Obsessed with functional strength. Journal

08-01-2005, 04:20 PM	#11
MuscleM4n Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,280 Photos: 9	nice find...cheers! damn this strongman training is going to be fun! Any strongmen on here to give me a hand?
	Age 19, Weight 132lbs , height 5'4", 8% bodyfat, 100% natural. Deadlift - 274lbs (NEW PB 9/8/2005) Squat - 274lbs (NEW PB 19/8/2005) Bench press - 154lbs Total - 702lbs @ 132lbs My Website Full Body Pictures 26/9/2005 My Journal! - Progress pictures 28/8/2005 Paint bodybuilder "Bodybuilding is a marathon not a sprint". Originally Posted by P-funk: "eat for size, train for strength".

08-01-2005, 04:23 PM	#12
Squaggleboggin Functional Lifting = Life Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,540 Photos: 3	Yeah, it's been really enjoyable for me so far, and I've only tried the farmers' walks and clean and presses. It's also called dinosaur training, so you can google that term and see what you can find. One thing I've always wanted to try is the car pulling. Good luck and train safe.
	Push yourself. Enjoy yourself. Be yourself. Knowledge is power. Obsessed with functional strength. Journal

08-01-2005, 04:56 PM	#13
Squaggleboggin Functional Lifting = Life Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,540 Photos: 3	I just went outside and pushed my car some with my brother in it. That was pretty fun. I think I'll put that into my routine somehow.
	Push yourself. Enjoy yourself. Be yourself. Knowledge is power. Obsessed with functional strength. Journal

08-02-2005, 12:17 AM	#17
PreMier happy sumo Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,230 Photos: 2	ya'll are funny. I mean seriously fads pass through IM like crazy.. Like Mudge said, train how you want.. its how you eat that matters.
	P-side Inc. "the post-workout high is more profound than any drug-induced rush imaginable." -Dante B.

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