Back

Squaggleboggin · 08-01-2005, 04:01 PM

I've been seeing gains, so I know I'm not overtraining, but I was wondering if all of the back work I have is really necessary. I was thinking of getting rid of the one arm rows.

Day One: ATG squats, SLDLs, farmers' walks
Day Two: Off
Day Three: Off
Day Four: Deadlifts, shoulder presses, CG benches, jackknife sit ups
Day Five: Off
Day Six: Clean and presses, DB benches, one arm rows, hammer curls
Day Seven: Off

So am I covered without the rows? My main concern is strength. Thanks.

Squaggleboggin · 08-02-2005, 08:55 PM

Anyone have any ideas? I'm thinking of just getting rid of them anyways. They don't even make me sore, and every new exercise I've ever tried has made me sore. DOMS occurs no matter what with a beginning exercise with my body, and it didn't with this one. I understand it's not an indication of a good workout or of hypertrophy, but this makes me seriously doubt the exercise and/or my form.

Cowbell · 08-02-2005, 09:01 PM

I quickly read through your posted novel....here is my advice youngster

Keep rows....Rows are VERY good! I repeat...VERY good. Always work your back as much as your chest or you are going to look funny. Biggest suggestion, change routine.
Mon: Chest and back
Tue: Abs
Wed: Legs
Thur: Abs
Fri: Arms/shoulders/forearms

This keeps you from overtraining and also allows more nutrients to get to the areas that are worked rather then thin them out...also never workout more than 45mins (that does not include cardio)

P.S. not bad stats

Squaggleboggin · 08-02-2005, 09:12 PM

Since you read it quickly, I might remind you that I only do one chest exercise - DB benches. For back, I do deadlifts, stiff-legged deadlifts, and other exercises that use it a lot would be the ATG squats, farmers' walks, and clean and presses. I'm definitely not making the mistake of working out the wrong parts too much, but thanks for looking out for me.

Also, I do not like having two or more consecutive days of working out (not enough rest IMO). It should also be noted that my goals are not bodybuilding but powerlifting ones. In other words, working my abs twice a week is something I really don't feel is necessary. I also like my current split, but wondered about the rows. I'd rather just take them out if I'm not comfortable about my form. No injuries for me.

Thank you for the compliment pertaining to my stats. I appreciate all positive feedback.

Cowbell · 08-02-2005, 09:23 PM

If about form on rows....start out light weight until comfortable. Look up form on the internet...also think about asking someone in the gym....didnt know you were going for powerlifting. But yes, rows are good...keep them.

Squaggleboggin · 08-02-2005, 09:28 PM

Actually that's what I tried. I always go to exrx.net for form. I study it, watch the video, try it standing there watching the video, try it with light weights, then move up once I'm comfortable. I work out in my basement though, so I can't ask somebody about form. I think I'll take them out but try doing some pull ups instead. The reason I don't think they're necessary is that many people with properly developed physiques rarely do rows (P-funk as an example). I understand that they probably got there using rows and don't find them necessary anymore, but I'm coming from a different area. I'll see how the pull ups go. Thanks for the responses.

Cowbell · 08-02-2005, 09:32 PM

You also have to remember that P-funk is...well...p-funk, I will leave it at that.

Squaggleboggin · 08-02-2005, 09:34 PM

That's true. I hadn't quite thought about that, but you're right. P-funk is P-funk and there's no messing with the almighty P.

Cowbell · 08-02-2005, 09:37 PM

I meant he eats small children

Squaggleboggin · 08-02-2005, 09:38 PM

Interesting fact (jots down in notebook 'Note to self: do not meet with P-funk in person... will be... eaten...'). Thanks for the tip.

Wait, I guess at 225 lbs I'm not really a small child. Oh well.

Cowbell · 08-02-2005, 09:38 PM

08-01-2005, 04:01 PM	#1
Squaggleboggin Functional Lifting = Life Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,540 Photos: 3	Back I've been seeing gains, so I know I'm not overtraining, but I was wondering if all of the back work I have is really necessary. I was thinking of getting rid of the one arm rows. Day One: ATG squats, SLDLs, farmers' walks Day Two: Off Day Three: Off Day Four: Deadlifts, shoulder presses, CG benches, jackknife sit ups Day Five: Off Day Six: Clean and presses, DB benches, one arm rows, hammer curls Day Seven: Off So am I covered without the rows? My main concern is strength. Thanks.
	Push yourself. Enjoy yourself. Be yourself. Knowledge is power. Obsessed with functional strength. Journal

08-02-2005, 08:55 PM	#2
Squaggleboggin Functional Lifting = Life Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,540 Photos: 3	Anyone have any ideas? I'm thinking of just getting rid of them anyways. They don't even make me sore, and every new exercise I've ever tried has made me sore. DOMS occurs no matter what with a beginning exercise with my body, and it didn't with this one. I understand it's not an indication of a good workout or of hypertrophy, but this makes me seriously doubt the exercise and/or my form.
	Push yourself. Enjoy yourself. Be yourself. Knowledge is power. Obsessed with functional strength. Journal

08-02-2005, 09:01 PM	#3
Cowbell Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 442	I quickly read through your posted novel....here is my advice youngster Keep rows....Rows are VERY good! I repeat...VERY good. Always work your back as much as your chest or you are going to look funny. Biggest suggestion, change routine. Mon: Chest and back Tue: Abs Wed: Legs Thur: Abs Fri: Arms/shoulders/forearms This keeps you from overtraining and also allows more nutrients to get to the areas that are worked rather then thin them out...also never workout more than 45mins (that does not include cardio) P.S. not bad stats
	"I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell!" "A hard on does not count as personal growth"

08-02-2005, 09:12 PM	#4
Squaggleboggin Functional Lifting = Life Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,540 Photos: 3	Since you read it quickly, I might remind you that I only do one chest exercise - DB benches. For back, I do deadlifts, stiff-legged deadlifts, and other exercises that use it a lot would be the ATG squats, farmers' walks, and clean and presses. I'm definitely not making the mistake of working out the wrong parts too much, but thanks for looking out for me. Also, I do not like having two or more consecutive days of working out (not enough rest IMO). It should also be noted that my goals are not bodybuilding but powerlifting ones. In other words, working my abs twice a week is something I really don't feel is necessary. I also like my current split, but wondered about the rows. I'd rather just take them out if I'm not comfortable about my form. No injuries for me. Thank you for the compliment pertaining to my stats. I appreciate all positive feedback.
	Push yourself. Enjoy yourself. Be yourself. Knowledge is power. Obsessed with functional strength. Journal

08-02-2005, 09:23 PM	#5
Cowbell Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 442	If about form on rows....start out light weight until comfortable. Look up form on the internet...also think about asking someone in the gym....didnt know you were going for powerlifting. But yes, rows are good...keep them.
	"I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell!" "A hard on does not count as personal growth"

08-02-2005, 09:28 PM	#6
Squaggleboggin Functional Lifting = Life Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,540 Photos: 3	Actually that's what I tried. I always go to exrx.net for form. I study it, watch the video, try it standing there watching the video, try it with light weights, then move up once I'm comfortable. I work out in my basement though, so I can't ask somebody about form. I think I'll take them out but try doing some pull ups instead. The reason I don't think they're necessary is that many people with properly developed physiques rarely do rows (P-funk as an example). I understand that they probably got there using rows and don't find them necessary anymore, but I'm coming from a different area. I'll see how the pull ups go. Thanks for the responses.
	Push yourself. Enjoy yourself. Be yourself. Knowledge is power. Obsessed with functional strength. Journal

08-02-2005, 09:32 PM	#7
Cowbell Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 442	You also have to remember that P-funk is...well...p-funk, I will leave it at that. Last edited by Cowbell : 08-02-2005 at 09:32 PM. Reason: spelling
	"I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell!" "A hard on does not count as personal growth"

08-02-2005, 09:34 PM	#8
Squaggleboggin Functional Lifting = Life Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,540 Photos: 3	That's true. I hadn't quite thought about that, but you're right. P-funk is P-funk and there's no messing with the almighty P.
	Push yourself. Enjoy yourself. Be yourself. Knowledge is power. Obsessed with functional strength. Journal

08-02-2005, 09:37 PM	#9
Cowbell Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 442	I meant he eats small children
	"I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell!" "A hard on does not count as personal growth"

08-02-2005, 09:38 PM	#10
Squaggleboggin Functional Lifting = Life Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,540 Photos: 3	Interesting fact (jots down in notebook 'Note to self: do not meet with P-funk in person... will be... eaten...'). Thanks for the tip. Wait, I guess at 225 lbs I'm not really a small child. Oh well.
	Push yourself. Enjoy yourself. Be yourself. Knowledge is power. Obsessed with functional strength. Journal

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
GG's IM Competition Journal	GoalGetter	Online Journals	2441	03-21-2005 09:10 PM
Back Attack	Mags	Training	5	02-16-2005 04:54 PM
Need help to build Back and Legs.	body	Training	2	01-25-2005 01:01 PM
baby got back	squanto	Training	5	01-25-2004 07:35 PM
back pain	Freeman	Training	5	12-28-2002 08:42 AM