Im 5'9" 150lbs,heres my problem a little over a year ago i was 200lbs so i got off my ass and got to work.Unfortionally for me a year ago i was the lease bit educated when it came to bodybuilding,as a result i loss 50lbs of muscle.Yeah my gut is not as noticeable anymore but my midsection remines the same.
So ive been told by many that i dont have significant lean mass to lose the rest of my midsection and that someone in position should bulk up in order to put on some mass & tone up,but the thing is ive herd and read that you cant gain mass & lose fat at the same time.It dosent make any sense to me i aways here people say when bulking they gain bodyfat if anything so whats the deal here?
This is what i plan on doing,start a very very clean bulk along with adding in some AM cardio 3Xweek for 30min.Do you guys think its possible for me to lose my midsection once & for all by bulking up this way?
I was in somewhat of the same boat when I started... I was about 158lbs, and I've bulked to 180 which I've been maintaining until I decide what I want to do... Basically, if you bulk and gain more mass, hopefully the majority of it will be muscle. This will make the fat you have, as well as the little fat you gain on a bulk look less apparent (at least it did for me). You won't be able to totally lose all the fat you want on a bulk, but it can help in an indirect way. I look quite a bit leaner after bulking than I did before due to the added muscle. My suggestion would be to bulk and then cut if you really want to get rid of all the fat around the midsection. You may have to do more than one bulk/cut cycle if you want to lose all the visible fat, but that also depends on the person. Hope I helped some.
When I first started bulking I did cardio for a couple months, doing different types... Usually I only did it twice a week, biking, jogging, sprinting, elliptical... Usually just anywhere from 10-20 minutes... After a couple months, I just said screw it and I dropped the cardio, but now I'm trying to cut so I'm doing cardio 3 times a week, usually for 30 minutes each time.
The dumbest ? I have yet to see on this board. I have had love handles all my life. After dieting for over a year, not bulking i had lipo done. Does that answere the stupidest? ever?
I was in the same boat as you were as well. I agree with sean - gaining muscle helps to indirectly decrease the amount of visible fat on the body. I haven't lost a pound since I've started working out, but I've gained a lot of muscle and lost a lot of fat. I think I look a lot better, if I do say so myself, even though that wasn't my goal to begin with.
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The dumbest ? I have yet to see on this board. I have had love handles all my life. After dieting for over a year, not bulking i had lipo done. Does that answere the stupidest? ever?
WTF are you talking about who the fuck said i had lipo you old dum shit?????
Let me answere this again in the simplest terms. THERE IS NO WAY IN THE WORLD THAT YOU CAN BULK AND LOSE LOVE HANDLES.. Now for all you stupid mother fuckers out there that think this can be done, then that is why you young 15 year olds need to keep in school and stay the fuck off this board.
Be glad when school starts back and these dumb mother fuckers try to entertain there young girlfriends and not us more experience bodybuilders.
Originally Posted by EL Colombiano
Sup everyone,
Im 5'9" 150lbs,heres my problem a little over a year ago i was 200lbs so i got off my ass and got to work.Unfortionally for me a year ago i was the lease bit educated when it came to bodybuilding,as a result i loss 50lbs of muscle.Yeah my gut is not as noticeable anymore but my midsection remines the same.
So ive been told by many that i dont have significant lean mass to lose the rest of my midsection and that someone in position should bulk up in order to put on some mass & tone up,but the thing is ive herd and read that you cant gain mass & lose fat at the same time.It dosent make any sense to me i aways here people say when bulking they gain bodyfat if anything so whats the deal here?
This is what i plan on doing,start a very very clean bulk along with adding in some AM cardio 3Xweek for 30min.Do you guys think its possible for me to lose my midsection once & for all by bulking up this way?
WTF are you talking about who the fuck said i had lipo you old dum shit?????
You stupid fuck. No one said you had it. I had it. After several years of dieting and exercise they weren't gonna go away. Now if there not gonna go away with diet, cardio, and any other fucking exercise, what the fuck makes you think there gonna go away with bulking up. Look if your chest gets wider from bulking up great. This is not going to reduce the size of the external obliques. You may look wider but as soon as you cut my little friend there still going to be there if not bigger if your diet is not in check..
Now cal me stupid but I have many of years on you and the young fucks that want to give you answeres.
Here's the proper answere. NO
Tell you what poster. You have several things that can only go away with diet and proper exercise but the lower belly and love handles will be the hardest. . Now believe me these are the two hardest area's to rid of.
1) the lower belly
2) the external Obliques..Love handles.
Some people are very fortunate to rid of the love handles doing strict diet and exercise. Most of us have them as they can be hereditary and they just are the hardest thing to rid of.
Bulking up in the chest can make them look smaller but there still there.
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Last edited by Tough Old Man; 08-08-2005 at 12:19 AM.
Let me answere this again in the simplest terms. THERE IS NO WAY IN THE WORLD THAT YOU CAN BULK AND LOSE LOVE HANDLES.. Now for all you stupid mother fuckers out there that think this can be done, then that is why you young 15 year olds need to keep in school and stay the fuck off this board.
Be glad when school starts back and these dumb mother fuckers try to entertain there young girlfriends and not us more experience bodybuilders.
Tough, I hope you're not refering to me... I never said you could bulk and lose love handles; no that is not possible. However, the added muscle mass CAN help them look in better proportion, so visually it can look like they're getting smaller. To actually get rid of them, you'd have to cut down your body fat very low, even in that case they might not go totally away due to genetics.
Let me answere this again in the simplest terms. THERE IS NO WAY IN THE WORLD THAT YOU CAN BULK AND LOSE LOVE HANDLES.. Now for all you stupid mother fuckers out there that think this can be done, then that is why you young 15 year olds need to keep in school and stay the fuck off this board.
Be glad when school starts back and these dumb mother fuckers try to entertain there young girlfriends and not us more experience bodybuilders.
Let me answere this again in the simplest terms. THERE IS NO WAY IN THE WORLD THAT YOU CAN BULK AND LOSE LOVE HANDLES.. Now for all you stupid mother fuckers out there that think this can be done, then that is why you young 15 year olds need to keep in school and stay the fuck off this board.
Be glad when school starts back and these dumb mother fuckers try to entertain there young girlfriends and not us more experience bodybuilders.
Hopefully your referring to some of us and not all of us. Because some of us look up to people like you guys because we eventually would like to be as big or bigger. We come to this board for advice we don't try to annoy and piss you off.
The only thing on a forum that actually can slightly anger me is a person so ignorant as to classify an entire age group as being 'dumb mother fuckers.' Way to be mature. If you really want to think that we're trying to teach you something, go ahead. If you'd actually stop to read the posts instead of saying "He is young, and therefore stupid," perhaps you'd realize that we're trying to set our own facts straight. If you disagree with something, so be it, but just because you're older doesn't mean you can't be wrong too. It's true: if you bulk, the love handles 'disappear.' Did I say you lose fat by bulking? No, I did not. What we're saying is that by increasing the muscle and keeping the fat the same, the proportion of LBM to fat changes, thus causing it to appear as if you lost fat. Difficult to understand? Not for most. Wrong because we're young? No. I hate old people who have no idea they're incredibly ignorant.
Push yourself. Enjoy yourself. Be yourself.
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The only thing on a forum that actually can slightly anger me is a person so ignorant as to classify an entire age group as being 'dumb mother fuckers.' Way to be mature. If you really want to think that we're trying to teach you something, go ahead. If you'd actually stop to read the posts instead of saying "He is young, and therefore stupid," perhaps you'd realize that we're trying to set our own facts straight. If you disagree with something, so be it, but just because you're older doesn't mean you can't be wrong too. It's true: if you bulk, the love handles 'disappear.' Did I say you lose fat by bulking? No, I did not. What we're saying is that by increasing the muscle and keeping the fat the same, the proportion of LBM to fat changes, thus causing it to appear as if you lost fat. Difficult to understand? Not for most. Wrong because we're young? No. I hate old people who have no idea they're incredibly ignorant.
The only thing on a forum that actually can slightly anger me is a person so ignorant as to classify an entire age group as being 'dumb mother fuckers.' Way to be mature. If you really want to think that we're trying to teach you something, go ahead. If you'd actually stop to read the posts instead of saying "He is young, and therefore stupid," perhaps you'd realize that we're trying to set our own facts straight. If you disagree with something, so be it, but just because you're older doesn't mean you can't be wrong too. It's true: if you bulk, the love handles 'disappear.' Did I say you lose fat by bulking? No, I did not. What we're saying is that by increasing the muscle and keeping the fat the same, the proportion of LBM to fat changes, thus causing it to appear as if you lost fat. Difficult to understand? Not for most. Wrong because we're young? No. I hate old people who have no idea they're incredibly ignorant.
The dumbest ? I have yet to see on this board. I have had love handles all my life. After dieting for over a year, not bulking i had lipo done. Does that answere the stupidest? ever?
Lighten up.
Last I heard this was a discussion board. People come here to ask questions because they are looking for information.
I don't think there is anything as a stupid question, really.
Offer to help, or don't respond.
Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first.
The best way to get rid of your love handles is aerobics. No type of weight lifting exercise alone, gets rid of fat. This is not only my opinion, every trainer out there will tell you the same.
Biking, swimming, or even good brisk walking for a couple miles three times a week will work wonders. But keep your higher aerobics down to around 20 minutes. To much aerobic activity is counter productive for building mass. Ever see a massive runner??.
The only thing on a forum that actually can slightly anger me is a person so ignorant as to classify an entire age group as being 'dumb mother fuckers.' Way to be mature. If you really want to think that we're trying to teach you something, go ahead. If you'd actually stop to read the posts instead of saying "He is young, and therefore stupid," perhaps you'd realize that we're trying to set our own facts straight. If you disagree with something, so be it, but just because you're older doesn't mean you can't be wrong too. It's true: if you bulk, the love handles 'disappear.' Did I say you lose fat by bulking? No, I did not. What we're saying is that by increasing the muscle and keeping the fat the same, the proportion of LBM to fat changes, thus causing it to appear as if you lost fat. Difficult to understand? Not for most. Wrong because we're young? No. I hate old people who have no idea they're incredibly ignorant.
oldman and foreman rules need to read that
besides, who would want advice from that fat old man anways? I mean, look at him.
Yes look at me. age 53. height 6' 1", weight 219....Bodyfat 13.8%. Arms 18 3/4", chest 49", Waist 35 1/2". Looks real fat to me. Wonder what you'll look like at 53. I guess it is if you compare me to someone that is 123 lbs with 7% B/F.
Now after saying that I will admit that after coming home from a birthday party where I got smashed I should have not got on this site. So sorry for getting crazy you guys.
Lets try this agian. If you bulk up, your most likely going to add bodyfat along with LBM. You will not lose the mid section while bulking. What will happen is that the additional LBM you add will help you burn more fat the next time you cut.
Originally Posted by shiznit2169
oldman and foreman rules need to read that
besides, who would want advice from that fat old man anways? I mean, look at him.
No this was not directed at you, but to all the young lads and anyone else regardless of age out there that think you can bulk and lose bodyfay around the midsection
Originally Posted by Seanp156
Tough, I hope you're not refering to me... I never said you could bulk and lose love handles; no that is not possible. However, the added muscle mass CAN help them look in better proportion, so visually it can look like they're getting smaller. To actually get rid of them, you'd have to cut down your body fat very low, even in that case they might not go totally away due to genetics.
i will say one thing, this board is starting to look like other *cough* bb.com *cough* websites with the questions and replies on here. i'm sorry to the young guys, but i'd rather get advice from a guy that has been in the gym for as long as you have been alive.
and tough old man, no need to apologize, you could be there father for christs sake
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