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Old 08-26-2005, 06:12 AM   #61
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P - Hmmm.. you wouldn't happen to have any links to good female oly lifting video clips would you?
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Although this is not an amazing lift it is a great story about a 2008 olympic hopeful for the female team. You can either read the article or click the little video camera under her pictures to watch the video clip and have the article read (as it is just transposed from the interview of a news station). God, I can believe training at OTC in high school and waking up early in the AM to train, at lunch time another training session and then a final training session after school!!


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I thought I should go public with this, even if it wasn't very pretty...

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waiting for it to download. Is that a personal best?? No jerk?



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okay, just saw it. where the hell is the pull? LOL, the video starts in the middle of the second pull when the bar is already moving up.

what I can tell you:

a) shrug more and extened.
b) you caught that really knee dominant. you need to get your ass back more.
c) sit sit sit. get down into a front squat. you are so tight on your catch. catch the bar and ride that sucker all the way down.



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waiting for it to download. Is that a personal best?? No jerk?
Now that I think about it it is a PR for the C&J, but I wont
count the one in the VID I sent you, my 1st attempt was much cleaner

But, most of my lifts were sub-par today...
At least I got to drop the weights -
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okay, just saw it. where the hell is the pull? LOL, the video starts in the middle of the second pull when the bar is already moving up.

what I can tell you:

a) shrug more and extened.
b) you caught that really knee dominant. you need to get your ass back more.
c) sit sit sit. get down into a front squat. you are so tight on your catch. catch the bar and ride that sucker all the way down
I don't feel right getting superlow on the clean, unless, I'm going heavier?!?!?

but I know I need work down in the hole...
As I said before, I am still trying to break old PWRLFTG habits
and I'm only 4 weeks into this (give or take)

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I don't feel right getting superlow on the clean, unless, I'm going heavier?!?!?

but I know I need work down in the hole...
As I said before, I am still trying to break old PWRLFTG habits
and I'm only 4 weeks into this (give or take)

I do appreciate the advice though -

yea, I used to say the same thing. the thing is though if you don't train your muscles to get in that position on the lighter weight, when you get to the heavier ones you wont have the control over your body to sit into the hole comfortably and quickly. drop the power snatches and power cleans. doing the full movement will make your form on the power movements better. you are landing really knee dominant and that is going to destroy your knees. I don't know many coaches that start people out with the power moves. they all was start with squat cleans and squat snatches.



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I don't feel right getting superlow on the clean, unless, I'm going heavier?!?!?

but I know I need work down in the hole...
As I said before, I am still trying to break old PWRLFTG habits
and I'm only 4 weeks into this (give or take)

I do appreciate the advice though -
That's me too man. Once I get back into it again, I need to graduate from power cleans to full cleans, and eventually to a full clean and jerk. I got a session or two with lower weight and better form in before I hurt my shoulder. I can't wait to get back into it. It feels a little weird dropping down so low when it's not necessary. Hell, I could probably power clean 2 plates for a single, which isn't half bad at my bodyweight, but I'm sure doing it properly will yield even better results.



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That's me too man. Once I get back into it again, I need to graduate from power cleans to full cleans, and eventually to a full clean and jerk. I got a session or two with lower weight and better form in before I hurt my shoulder. I can't wait to get back into it. It feels a little weird dropping down so low when it's not necessary. Hell, I could probably power clean 2 plates for a single, which isn't half bad at my bodyweight, but I'm sure doing it properly will yield even better results.

you have to just full clean and drop the power cleans and go back to them when your form is solid with the squat clean as it will help you greatly. I know the argument is...."well, the weight is still light!" (even though the form maybe awful). All I can say is your argument is like saying "I can quarter squat 500lbs so I can full squat it." One is not the other.


I had the same argument. I could take over 200lbs and just throw it up to my shoulders. I could take 135 and snatch it overhead to a standing position. I could do all this (my form sucked) when I met my coach. The first thing he said was "can you squat snatch?" and I said (surprise surprise) "the weight is still light. if the weight were heavier I think I could get under it if I needed to." He chuckled and.....added more weight! I fucking bombed!! why....because all I knew was my shit form power snatch and that is what I tried to do. Hell you could have put 200bs on there and I would have tried to power snatch it becaue I didn't have the muscle control or ability to squat snatch. I didn't know how to do it. It wasn't a learned move for me. So I had to learn it (same went for the clean).

People always think that it is so easy to do the full move when the weight gets heavier because they have to then actually drop under. The thing is, if you never did it good luck! Hitting the bottom position is one of the hardest things to do. You need to really make sure you turn those elbows, you drop fast and most of all....get your balance right!


Start squat cleaning everything....catch the bar and ride it down in one movement (don't stop its fall) and you will reap the benefits.



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you have to just full clean and drop the power cleans and go back to them when your form is solid with the squat clean as it will help you greatly. I know the argument is...."well, the weight is still light!" (even though the form maybe awful). All I can say is your argument is like saying "I can quarter squat 500lbs so I can full squat it." One is not the other.


I had the same argument. I could take over 200lbs and just throw it up to my shoulders. I could take 135 and snatch it overhead to a standing position. I could do all this (my form sucked) when I met my coach. The first thing he said was "can you squat snatch?" and I said (surprise surprise) "the weight is still light. if the weight were heavier I think I could get under it if I needed to." He chuckled and.....added more weight! I fucking bombed!! why....because all I knew was my shit form power snatch and that is what I tried to do. Hell you could have put 200bs on there and I would have tried to power snatch it becaue I didn't have the muscle control or ability to squat snatch. I didn't know how to do it. It wasn't a learned move for me. So I had to learn it (same went for the clean).

People always think that it is so easy to do the full move when the weight gets heavier because they have to then actually drop under. The thing is, if you never did it good luck! Hitting the bottom position is one of the hardest things to do. You need to really make sure you turn those elbows, you drop fast and most of all....get your balance right!


Start squat cleaning everything....catch the bar and ride it down in one movement (don't stop its fall) and you will reap the benefits.
I will be working, and taking more vid, I could see alot of things ugly
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read your journal. maybe my last post there makes more sense then this drivel.



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I wish I could get some video footage of my lifts for you. Maybe I can drag ivonne out to long island one day to record me. She is always working though so it sucks.
Do you lift alone also????
I was pulling people off the floor to hold the camera
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you have to just full clean and drop the power cleans and go back to them when your form is solid with the squat clean as it will help you greatly. I know the argument is...."well, the weight is still light!" (even though the form maybe awful). All I can say is your argument is like saying "I can quarter squat 500lbs so I can full squat it." One is not the other.


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People always think that it is so easy to do the full move when the weight gets heavier because they have to then actually drop under. The thing is, if you never did it good luck! Hitting the bottom position is one of the hardest things to do. You need to really make sure you turn those elbows, you drop fast and most of all....get your balance right!


Start squat cleaning everything....catch the bar and ride it down in one movement (don't stop its fall) and you will reap the benefits.
Oh, I know you're right. That is why I went back to light weights and started doing 8 sets of triples with low weight and low rest intervals. I still wanted a workout, but I wanted to improve my form. It felt so akward going low. I was thinking to myself the first time I dropped into a front squat, "How did I think I was going to do this with 250 pounds?"

Hell, I have to start front squatting period. I never even do it. It's going to become a mainstay in my routine. I was never able to get fully comfortable doing them, but now I'm determined to do so when I get back into it.



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I was pulling people off the floor to hold the camera (sorry about your WO)

no, when I do my lifts it is with my team. but everyone on the team are a bunch of friggin' cavemen and I don't trust them to handle her camera.



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