Olympic Lifting (amazing lifts)

The Monkey Man · 11-12-2005, 12:47 PM

There's your watermark...

Go get em P

**P-funk** · 11-12-2005, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

There's your watermark...

Go get em P

I know! I am on it!!

**P-funk** · 11-12-2005, 12:50 PM

in other news

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Shannon Hartnett Suspended For Doping Violation

The USADA suspended Hartnett from competing in all International Weightlifting Federation events for two years after she tested positive for metabolites of stanozolol during a doping control test conducted at the 2005 U.S. Weightlifting National Championships in Cleveland, Ohio last May. It is the first offense for Hartnett, who is believed to be the first Marin-based professional athlete to test positive. Weightlifting is one of a wide range of athletic interests for Hartnett, meaning she can still compete in a variety of events.

"I've been drug-tested for a million years," said Hartnett, a 40-year-old Sausalito resident. "It's inaccurate. This has been happening to a lot of athletes since (the) BALCO (scandal). They are testing positive for over-the-counter things - nutritional supplements, not steroids."

Travis Tygart, general counsel of the USADA, says the facts are clear.

"Make no mistake, she used stanozolol," Tygart said. "Absent from chain-of-custody lab error, and there was none of that in this case, (stanozolol) does not get in your system any other way. This has been on the banned list for years. To say that this is something now added to the list is nonsense."

BALCO is the Burlingame laboratory identified for creating and distributing previously undetectable steroids to high-profile athletes. Stanozolol is the man-made steroid, similar to the naturally occurring steroid testosterone, that Canadian sprinter Ben Johnson tested positive for at the 1988 Olympics.

Tygart said Hartnett had a chance to appeal the suspension and chose not to. Hartnett said she is weighing the cost of legal representation before deciding her next move.

"Most of the athletes getting caught now are trying to get in the Olympics, I'm not," Hartnett said. "I haven't competed (as a weightlifter) since that event because I hurt my shoulder. I had to pull out of that competition. I took a cortisone shot for it, that could've been part of (the positive test)."

Hartnett, a former track standout at San Rafael High School and Sonoma State, has a long and varied athletic career in and around Marin. She was a member of the three-time national champion fastpitch softball team, a top-10 national bodybuilder, a top-five finisher in the World's Strongest Woman competition, an alternate on the 2002 Winter Olympic women's bobsledding team, a fullback for the Santa Rosa Scorchers semipro football team and a legend at the Scottish Highland Games. Hartnett retired from the Scottish Games this summer after 15 years of high-level competition.

Hartnett said the ban wouldn't curtail her competition schedule. She is entered in a powerlifting event next week. Powerlifting is not an Olympic sport and not regulated by the IWF.

"I have enough to worry about," said Hartnett, referring to Body Central, the workout center for women she owns in Santa Rosa. "I haven't signed the papers (from the USADA). I just need to know how much it's going to cost to fight this."

**P-funk** · 11-12-2005, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

There's your watermark...

Go get em P

fuck! I want it so bad. I have to do it. I want to be up there in 3-4 years. I want to be at the worlds. I want it so bad. I am so fired up.

The Monkey Man · 11-12-2005, 01:00 PM

At this point I'll be happy to correctly snatch 150lbs -

**P-funk** · 11-12-2005, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

At this point I'll be happy to correctly snatch 150lbs -

you gotta believe man! you gotta believe!

I am just sitting here listening to really really slow mellow music and thinking about my form. Going over the pull in my head. Thinking about what it feels like to clean. What it would feel like to be there at the worlds and pull. Gotta believe man!

The Monkey Man · 11-14-2005, 08:33 AM

Doha, Qatar - It was all about Pawina Thongsuk (Thailand)
in the women’s 63-kg category at the World Weightlifting Championships today.

With "Thailand" "Thailand" filling the air, Thongsuk nailed 135 on her first
attempt for a world record in the total. Shimkova couldn't get under the bar
with 137 kg and then Liu took 138, to tie the world record in the jerk and go
into gold medal position in the jerk and the total, but she couldn't stand up
with the weight. Shimkova, showing that at least sometimes when you miss,
you can get away with moving up, called for 139 kg on her last attempt and
made a good lift for a world record in the jerk and gold-medal position in the
jerk and silver medal position in the total.

But Thongsuk wasn't done, and she made a nice lift with 140 kg on her
second attempt, although she had to work and walk to control the jerk...
her effort gave her the world record in the jerk as well as the total,
not to mention locking up all the gold medals in her class.

If that weren't enough for the night, Thongsuk called for 145 kg on her third attempt,
made a nice clean and came close to jerking the weight.

Yanick · 11-14-2005, 10:11 PM

i'm not even close to a steroid guru, but isn't stanozolol winny? i've never heard it used for strength gains really, but i'm probably wrong on that one anyway.

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Originally Posted by The Monkey Man

Doha, Qatar - It was all about Pawina Thongsuk (Thailand)
in the women’s 63-kg category at the World Weightlifting Championships today.

With "Thailand" "Thailand" filling the air, Thongsuk nailed 135 on her first
attempt for a world record in the total. Shimkova couldn't get under the bar
with 137 kg and then Liu took 138, to tie the world record in the jerk and go
into gold medal position in the jerk and the total, but she couldn't stand up
with the weight. Shimkova, showing that at least sometimes when you miss,
you can get away with moving up, called for 139 kg on her last attempt and
made a good lift for a world record in the jerk and gold-medal position in the
jerk and silver medal position in the total.

But Thongsuk wasn't done, and she made a nice lift with 140 kg on her
second attempt, although she had to work and walk to control the jerk...
her effort gave her the world record in the jerk as well as the total,
not to mention locking up all the gold medals in her class.

If that weren't enough for the night, Thongsuk called for 145 kg on her third attempt,
made a nice clean and came close to jerking the weight.

so they give out gold medals for cleans, jerks, snatches and totals?

those are some strong ass girls right there, respect.

**P-funk** · 11-15-2005, 03:19 AM

yes, they give out three medals. One for each lift and one for the total. They only do this in the Worlds. Not in the olympics. The girls are strong, but lets see how many of them keep their medal once the drug tests go through. The chinese are notorious for losing medals when the whole team gets banned for drugs.

Stanazolol is whinny I believe also. I am not a steroid guru either but it looks like this is one of the drugs of choice for most of these strength athletes. Rafael Palmero got busted with this mid baseball season also.

**IainDaniel** · 11-15-2005, 06:52 AM

Also Ben Johnsons Drug of Choice.

Would be interesting to know why these athletes that require power use Stanazolol

The Monkey Man · 11-15-2005, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Also Ben Johnsons Drug of Choice.

Would be interesting to know why these athletes that require power use Stanazolol

Maybe I should call BALCO?... Think they have a website?

**IainDaniel** · 11-15-2005, 07:32 AM

But they only sell ZMA

**P-funk** · 11-15-2005, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Also Ben Johnsons Drug of Choice.

Would be interesting to know why these athletes that require power use Stanazolol

Me too! Maybe Mudge or LAM can give us some insight, if they even read this thread that is.

**P-funk** · 11-15-2005, 12:37 PM

started a thread in the anabolic forum to try and get the question answered.

stanazolol?

**IainDaniel** · 11-15-2005, 01:08 PM

Cool Thanks

**P-funk** · 11-23-2005, 07:26 AM

If anyone gets Showtime on demand there was a great 30min segment that aired a few weeks ago and is still available on demand. It is on the 2004 olympics in greece. They pick a few sports to talk about and showcase the person on the top of that sport at those olympics. About 10min. into the segment they showcase weightlifting and Dimas is center stage. They document all his previous gold medals and talk about how he came to Greece and became a lifter. Then they move on to the 2004 games (his final olympics). It was really great! The segment shows everything from his 3 lifts in both the snatch and the jerk as well as interview commentary from Dimas about how he was feeling and what he was thinking. They also show how upon receiving the bronze medal the crowed gave him so much praise that they had to pause for 10 whole minutes before handing out the silver and gold medals. It was really well done. I got pretty choked up seeing Dimas standing on the podium holding his heart and crying for the fans. He said in his interview "today I got two medals. I got a bronze from the olympics and a gold medal from my people." When asked what the gold medal winner (I can't recall his name) thought when he saw that a bronze medal winner was getting so much praise for not even winning, he said, "Pyrros is not a bronze medalist. He is a 3 time olymic champion." Amazing! Hope all can watch.

-p

The Monkey Man · 11-23-2005, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

I got pretty choked up seeing Dimas standing on the podium holding his heart and crying for the fans.

The Monkey Man · 11-23-2005, 07:55 PM

haha, JK

**P-funk** · 11-24-2005, 07:15 AM

I always get choked up when I watch the olympics. Hell, I got choked up on the first segment of the show about USA women's fencing winning a gold medal for the first time in 100yrs!! I think it is because there is just so much emotion in the olympics. You train for years for 1 day, 1 event, 1 moment. That is it. It isn't like football or baseball when there is always next week, or next year. I love it. It is very emotional.

**CowPimp** · 11-24-2005, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

I always get choked up when I watch the olympics. Hell, I got choked up on the first segment of the show about USA women's fencing winning a gold medal for the first time in 100yrs!! I think it is because there is just so much emotion in the olympics. You train for years for 1 day, 1 event, 1 moment. That is it. It isn't like football or baseball when there is always next week, or next year. I love it. It is very emotional.

I never really thought of it like that. Yeah, there are far fewer chances to achieve what it is that you were shooting for. Nonetheless, if you even make it to the olympics, you should be proud!

The Monkey Man · 11-24-2005, 08:13 AM

That's what these competitions are all about, no matter what event you compete in...

If you are an olympian, you have trained your whole life to represent yourself,
your country, and your team, one time...

And for weightlifters, that lifeime boils down to less than one second,
that it takes to snatch or jerk your attempted weight...

Thats some serious fucking pressure -

**P-funk** · 11-24-2005, 08:25 AM

I think what makes it more emotional for these guys is that no world championship or Pan AM games win is like a Gold Medal. It is the ultimate win. You can compete in the World Championships every year but the Olympic games comes only every four years for these athletes (weightlifters expecially) how many olympics can they actually compete in before their bodies break down? I mean, you have one olympics were you really peak and have a shot after that, 4 more years and some young guy has jumped up to take your place. Just look at any of the champs. Naim Suleymanoglu (my favorite lifter) won 3 straight gold medals. He tried to come out of retirement at 32 to go for a fourth in Sydney and he bombed out on the snatch. Dimas won three golds and came back for a shot at a fourth in his homeland greece. He was literally about an inch away from it. He cleaned it, Jerked it overhead and just missed it. So he settled for a bronze. Still amazing, especially since he was not even in the running. What about Chemerkin? Olympic greatness only to fall to the regein or Rezezadeh. And what about Rezezadeh? The former gold medalist looked shakey at the last world championships. He got beat in the snatch, losing the gold medal to Chisgiev or Russia and almost lost the clean and jerk adn overal all gold medal when his last attempt jerk was sloppy at best. At 26 Chisgiev is that close! Can he step up and take a gold in 4 more years? How much better can Rezezadeh get? Can his body hold up for another 4 years and a nother gold medal? The fact that Naim and Pyrros both won 3 golds in 3 straight olympics, 12 straight years of hard training!!(and dimas going on to grab a bronze also) Well, that is just plain amazing to me!

TJ Cline · 12-05-2005, 11:11 AM

Dont know if this was posted yet???

http://www.bodytechusa.com/images/Je...sSQ3_Small.swf

jeff lewis 1202 squat video
done couple of weeks ago WPO in chicago. is it deep enough????
he weighed in at 480 lbs

**P-funk** · 12-05-2005, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Dont know if this was posted yet???

http://www.bodytechusa.com/images/Je...sSQ3_Small.swf

jeff lewis 1202 squat video
done couple of weeks ago WPO in chicago. is it deep enough????
he weighed in at 480 lbs

it looked like a good parallel squat from here.

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11-14-2005, 08:33 AM	#217
The Monkey Man Magical Apelikemenace Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Delhi, India Posts: 13,629 Photos: 34	Doha, Qatar - It was all about Pawina Thongsuk (Thailand) in the women’s 63-kg category at the World Weightlifting Championships today. With "Thailand" "Thailand" filling the air, Thongsuk nailed 135 on her first attempt for a world record in the total. Shimkova couldn't get under the bar with 137 kg and then Liu took 138, to tie the world record in the jerk and go into gold medal position in the jerk and the total, but she couldn't stand up with the weight. Shimkova, showing that at least sometimes when you miss, you can get away with moving up, called for 139 kg on her last attempt and made a good lift for a world record in the jerk and gold-medal position in the jerk and silver medal position in the total. But Thongsuk wasn't done, and she made a nice lift with 140 kg on her second attempt, although she had to work and walk to control the jerk... her effort gave her the world record in the jerk as well as the total, not to mention locking up all the gold medals in her class. If that weren't enough for the night, Thongsuk called for 145 kg on her third attempt, made a nice clean and came close to jerking the weight.
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11-15-2005, 03:19 AM	#219
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,425	yes, they give out three medals. One for each lift and one for the total. They only do this in the Worlds. Not in the olympics. The girls are strong, but lets see how many of them keep their medal once the drug tests go through. The chinese are notorious for losing medals when the whole team gets banned for drugs. Stanazolol is whinny I believe also. I am not a steroid guru either but it looks like this is one of the drugs of choice for most of these strength athletes. Rafael Palmero got busted with this mid baseball season also.
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11-15-2005, 06:52 AM	#220
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 15,603	Also Ben Johnsons Drug of Choice. Would be interesting to know why these athletes that require power use Stanazolol
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11-15-2005, 07:32 AM	#222
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 15,603	But they only sell ZMA
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11-15-2005, 12:37 PM	#224
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,425	started a thread in the anabolic forum to try and get the question answered. stanazolol?
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11-15-2005, 01:08 PM	#225
IainDaniel My Role Model Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 15,603	Cool Thanks
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11-23-2005, 07:26 AM	#226
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,425	Just FYI If anyone gets Showtime on demand there was a great 30min segment that aired a few weeks ago and is still available on demand. It is on the 2004 olympics in greece. They pick a few sports to talk about and showcase the person on the top of that sport at those olympics. About 10min. into the segment they showcase weightlifting and Dimas is center stage. They document all his previous gold medals and talk about how he came to Greece and became a lifter. Then they move on to the 2004 games (his final olympics). It was really great! The segment shows everything from his 3 lifts in both the snatch and the jerk as well as interview commentary from Dimas about how he was feeling and what he was thinking. They also show how upon receiving the bronze medal the crowed gave him so much praise that they had to pause for 10 whole minutes before handing out the silver and gold medals. It was really well done. I got pretty choked up seeing Dimas standing on the podium holding his heart and crying for the fans. He said in his interview "today I got two medals. I got a bronze from the olympics and a gold medal from my people." When asked what the gold medal winner (I can't recall his name) thought when he saw that a bronze medal winner was getting so much praise for not even winning, he said, "Pyrros is not a bronze medalist. He is a 3 time olymic champion." Amazing! Hope all can watch. -p
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11-24-2005, 07:15 AM	#229
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,425	I always get choked up when I watch the olympics. Hell, I got choked up on the first segment of the show about USA women's fencing winning a gold medal for the first time in 100yrs!! I think it is because there is just so much emotion in the olympics. You train for years for 1 day, 1 event, 1 moment. That is it. It isn't like football or baseball when there is always next week, or next year. I love it. It is very emotional.
	http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind! http://ivonneberkowitz.blogspot.com/....check out Ivonne's new blog! Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

11-24-2005, 08:13 AM	#231
The Monkey Man Magical Apelikemenace Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Delhi, India Posts: 13,629 Photos: 34	That's what these competitions are all about, no matter what event you compete in... If you are an olympian, you have trained your whole life to represent yourself, your country, and your team, one time... And for weightlifters, that lifeime boils down to less than one second, that it takes to snatch or jerk your attempted weight... Thats some serious fucking pressure -
	Have Problems?... Chances are its due to overpopulation Save The Oceans, Save the Planet, Save Your Family, Save Yourself!

11-24-2005, 08:25 AM	#232
P-funk Patrick Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 30,425	I think what makes it more emotional for these guys is that no world championship or Pan AM games win is like a Gold Medal. It is the ultimate win. You can compete in the World Championships every year but the Olympic games comes only every four years for these athletes (weightlifters expecially) how many olympics can they actually compete in before their bodies break down? I mean, you have one olympics were you really peak and have a shot after that, 4 more years and some young guy has jumped up to take your place. Just look at any of the champs. Naim Suleymanoglu (my favorite lifter) won 3 straight gold medals. He tried to come out of retirement at 32 to go for a fourth in Sydney and he bombed out on the snatch. Dimas won three golds and came back for a shot at a fourth in his homeland greece. He was literally about an inch away from it. He cleaned it, Jerked it overhead and just missed it. So he settled for a bronze. Still amazing, especially since he was not even in the running. What about Chemerkin? Olympic greatness only to fall to the regein or Rezezadeh. And what about Rezezadeh? The former gold medalist looked shakey at the last world championships. He got beat in the snatch, losing the gold medal to Chisgiev or Russia and almost lost the clean and jerk adn overal all gold medal when his last attempt jerk was sloppy at best. At 26 Chisgiev is that close! Can he step up and take a gold in 4 more years? How much better can Rezezadeh get? Can his body hold up for another 4 years and a nother gold medal? The fact that Naim and Pyrros both won 3 golds in 3 straight olympics, 12 straight years of hard training!!(and dimas going on to grab a bronze also) Well, that is just plain amazing to me!
	http://pwtraining.blogspot.com/.....come and see what is on my mind! http://ivonneberkowitz.blogspot.com/....check out Ivonne's new blog! Optimum Sports Performance "In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, in the experts there are few." -Buddha's Little Instruction Book

12-05-2005, 11:11 AM	#233
TJ Cline Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,544	Dont know if this was posted yet??? http://www.bodytechusa.com/images/Je...sSQ3_Small.swf jeff lewis 1202 squat video done couple of weeks ago WPO in chicago. is it deep enough???? he weighed in at 480 lbs
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