Thread: Olympic Lifting (amazing lifts)

Good stuff!!

The Rigert vids are cool, watching those Iron weights hit the floor -

I like the first one, I've never seen a big guy move so fast.

yea, Rigert was a bad ass!

That's amazing.

Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt

I like the first one, I've never seen a big guy move so fast.

yea, that weight is pretty light for Shane Hammon. LOL, he was supposed to retire. That was an easy lift for him. In the 2004 olympics he clean and jerked around 520lbs. (good enough to set the american record but only good enough for 7th place!).

Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

That's amazing.

glad people are enjoying it.

Originally Posted by P-funk

(good enough to set the american record but only good enough for 7th place!).

Yea, America suck at olympic lifting because no one does it here.

What's the difference between the clean and jerk and the clean and press, or are they both the same?

Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt

I like the first one, I've never seen a big guy move so fast.

yea. There was a study (and I can't friggin' find it) that showed that olympic lifters were quicker than 100meter sprinters in the first 10yrds (explsoive)! They also had higher verticals than high jumpers (explosive)! Shane Hammon can dunk a basketball at 5'9" 375lbs!!



Shane...Look at those calves!!

Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

What's the difference between the clean and jerk and the clean and press, or are they both the same?

In the jerk you have to jerk yourself under the weight. It must be a lockout and no pressing or stopping of the bar. One quick movement. The jerk is all with the hips and you are just dropping (shrugging) yourself under the bar.

The meets used to include the clean and press as the third lift but that was since dropped since it was getting harder for the judges to judge the legitamicy of the press since the guys were leaning back so much after awhile.

Paul Anderson Clean and Press 435lbs

435lb press!!

Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt

Yea, America suck at olympic lifting because no one does it here.

In other countries they start lifting at the age of 8!!! In this country the olympic lifters usually don't enter the sport until they are in their 20s and exposed to it through college programs when they are training for another sport. By that time they are all messed up...it is harder to learn new movement patterns and they already have a great deal of strength so it is tough to re-learn how to lift. When you start at the age of 8 you have very little muscle mass and strength so you have to learn how to properly move the weight in order to get under and learn how to be fast to get the lift up.

Ah, I see now. Thanks. I've always wanted to go for strength, but I don't know why everyone says that you become slow when you do that. I've become much faster since I've started training (not only running I'm sure, but also reaction and movement speed). I do recall reading about the article you mentioned on olympic lifters. It's quite amazing what they can do and how they're better than the other athletes at the events for which they train.

Originally Posted by P-funk

In other countries they start lifting at the age of 8!!! In this country the olympic lifters usually don't enter the sport until they are in their 20s and exposed to it through college programs when they are training for another sport. By that time they are all messed up...it is harder to learn new movement patterns and they already have a great deal of strength so it is tough to re-learn how to lift. When you start at the age of 8 you have very little muscle mass and strength so you have to learn how to properly move the weight in order to get under and learn how to be fast to get the lift up.

You're making me feel old. :-P

I know what you mean though. I'm teaching a friend of mine that's really thin the proper way to bench, so he's going to have good form as long as he lifts. My brother, on the other hand, has been learning the wrong things throughout the past few years from one of his friends, and he won't listen to me because I'm younger. He also won't dedicate himself to lifting, but that's another story I suppose.

Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

You're making me feel old. :-P

I know what you mean though. I'm teaching a friend of mine that's really thin the proper way to bench, so he's going to have good form as long as he lifts. My brother, on the other hand, has been learning the wrong things throughout the past few years from one of his friends, and he won't listen to me because I'm younger. He also won't dedicate himself to lifting, but that's another story I suppose.

learning to bench press and learning to snatch or clean and jerk are way different. These lifts are way to complex.

Originally Posted by P-funk

learning to bench press and learning to snatch or clean and jerk are way different. These lifts are way to complex.

No kidding. What does it take like 10 minutes to teach someone how to bench? Olympic lifting takes years to master.

Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt

What does it take like 10 minutes to teach someone how to bench?

Depends how good you want to be at it. Some say 20 years and they are still perfecting it.

I think the O lifts are harder to perfect because
each persons center of gravity is different,
longer legs, shorter or longer torso,
Bigger or smaller arms, ETC...

Each athlete must do alot more personal fine tuning
of the cookie cutter standard technique

Originally Posted by P-funk

learning to bench press and learning to snatch or clean and jerk are way different. These lifts are way to complex.

I wasn't comparing the two; I was just saying that it's good to learn the right way early on because otherwise you could be screwed up for your whole lifting career.

Originally Posted by Squaggleboggin

I wasn't comparing the two; I was just saying that it's good to learn the right way early on because otherwise you could be screwed up for your whole lifting career.

LIKE ME -

those lifts are insane!

here are some more videos (not olympic) if u guys care enough to watch

http://www.joeskopec.com/biglifts.html

for those of u who havent seen it, watch tom platz squat 500 for 23 reps. INSANE.

FUNK, come on! no clips of Alexeev???

some more videos

http://irongame.com/

Originally Posted by shiznit2169

those lifts are insane!

here are some more videos (not olympic) if u guys care enough to watch

http://www.joeskopec.com/biglifts.html

for those of u who havent seen it, watch tom platz squat 500 for 23 reps. INSANE.

Platz needs a new haircut -
At my best I could hit that 495 like 2x -

Thats an old ass video, so old hairstyle somewhat.

I'm curious how much the wobble bar helps, I can get 275 overhead with a regular Olympic but dont think I have 3 plates in me.

Olympic lifting is not sponsored really here in the US like it is in some countries. The government does not pay you to train and be monitored by scientists, you have a job and work like everyone else. So some other countries have a leg up there.

I like Hammon's clean and jerk. He does the jerk part so fast. How can you put that kind of weight overhead so quickly? Impressive. I love his divebomb squat style too.

Originally Posted by CowPimp

I like Hammon's clean and jerk. He does the jerk part so fast. How can you put that kind of weight overhead so quickly? Impressive. I love his divebomb squat style too.

He isn't putting the weight overhead quickly. The bar moves vary little. He is putting himself under the bar quickly.

Originally Posted by * Legion *

FUNK, come on! no clips of Alexeev???

I was never able to find any. I wish.

Keep training Funk, and soon we'll be watching you clean and jerk shitloads.