Bicep training should be part of a weightlifting routine?

HardTrainer · 09-07-2005, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

It's in Arthur Jones book and also in Mentzers........go read it, I can't spoon feed you all my knowledge.

Mentzer broke away from arthur jones......

HardTrainer · 09-07-2005, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CowPimp

In fact, studies have shown that you can increase the amount of LBM on your body by taking steroids and not even working out.

of course you can, why do you think they jack cows up with roids and dont design them a gym afterwards.

TJ Cline · 09-07-2005, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by HardTrainer

Mentzer broke away from arthur jones......

Yes he did, and he continued to train as Arthur Jones taught him.....except he changed the frequency and some other minor things....

HardTrainer · 09-07-2005, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Yes he did, and he continued to train as Arthur Jones taught him.....except he changed the frequency and some other minor things....

IMO arthur jones frequency is too much, and mike mentzer not enough, i train bodyparts twice every 8 days HIT style.

I do not think either man is completey right i do belive at least they thought about training and helped many people, more then Arnold ever did directly.

TJ Cline · 09-07-2005, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by HardTrainer

I do not think either man is completey right i do belive at least they thought about training and helped many people, more then Arnold ever did directly.

Arnold helped people by inspiring millions to workout...

Mentzer inspired hundreds...

But I agree Jones and Mike had some interesting ideas and some of what they preached is good stuff.

HardTrainer · 09-07-2005, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ForemanRules

Arnold helped people by inspiring millions to workout...

Mentzer inspired hundreds...

Thats why I said directly, Arnold has never been a trainer of others, although indirectly inspired many by his persona and phyisque due to mainly the movies, mass media.

Decker · 09-07-2005, 09:27 AM

For me, doing hammer curls until my hands are like claws is something I look forward to. Working the biceps is extremely demanding if done properly.

dAMvN · 09-07-2005, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Decker

For me, doing hammer curls until my hands are like claws is something I look forward to. Working the biceps is extremely demanding if done properly.

Bro and thats like a no brainer. Why slack off on your arms? " It's a waste of time" Thats like the dumbest thing ive ever heard said about working out, espically a muscle as complex but yet so needed as the bicep. Those are some ignorant words, if I could quote Arnny for a sec. He said "train your weakest muscle as if it was your strongest muscle." Cowshit here and the rest of the lil "crew" of non bicep ppl need to stop slacking off on bicep and work it out. Because ask anyone in the gym that knows what there doing, pulling exe are not enough to sculp your biceps.

rangers97 · 09-07-2005, 11:38 AM

**P-funk** · 09-07-2005, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dAMvN

Bro and thats like a no brainer. Why slack off on your arms? " It's a waste of time" Thats like the dumbest thing ive ever heard said about working out, espically a muscle as complex but yet so needed as the bicep. Those are some ignorant words, if I could quote Arnny for a sec. He said "train your weakest muscle as if it was your strongest muscle." Cowshit here and the rest of the lil "crew" of non bicep ppl need to stop slacking off on bicep and work it out. Because ask anyone in the gym that knows what there doing, pulling exe are not enough to sculp your biceps.

please read my post that sums it up. Some of us don't care about "scuplting" (what a gay word) out biceps. for those that do then some bicep work is fine.

rangers97 · 09-07-2005, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by P-funk

Here is my take on it:

If you are a BB'er or training for physical gratification......do some bicep work

It you are a powerlifter training for a better bench press and deadlift.....do some bicep work.

If you are an olympic lifter.......don't wast your time on the bicep work.

If you just train for overal strength and don't give a shit......don't waste your time on bicep work but a little bit wont hurt you either.

can we all agree on this?

This is the be all end all answer to this question. This thread should be closed now, this is all you need to look at and go by. there is no point in arguing anymore over it....

**CowPimp** · 09-07-2005, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rangers97

This is the be all end all answer to this question. This thread should be closed now, this is all you need to look at and go by. there is no point in arguing anymore over it....

You're right. I'm done in this thread. If anyone actually disbelieves that your arms will still grow without directly working them because of dAMvN's flimsy as cardboard arguments, then go ahead. I could care less at this point.

**P-funk** · 09-07-2005, 12:59 PM

thanks.

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